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    Hello all, I decided I would make a new thread for one of the new teams to the conference and give my insight for all things Lindenwood Basketball. The program is in a bit of chaotic state at the moment with only 5 returners from last years roster, of those 5 only 1 received playing time over 15 minutes per game. I believe there were 8 players committed to joining the program next year (2 high school, 6 transfers), but that was before Coach Lance Randall announced his resignation early in June. While a replacement has not been named, the rumor is that if the position is not handed off to the associate head coach Ryan Hamm (unlikely he will get it due to lack of head coaching experience) there will be almost complete roster turnover. With all that being said, Lindenwood is a complete wild card at this point in time heading into the season, at least until we see the effects of Coach Randall's departure and what is left of the roster/recruits when the new coach is named.

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    Welcome aboard to the GLVC. It's always great to see new posters from other schools on here. I hope you will stick around to keep us informed - don't let the crazies here scare you off!

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    Word on the street is that they have narrowed it down to three candidates. In no particular order they are; an unnamed Central Michigan assistant, my guess would be Kyle Gerdeman as he has spent a good portion of his coaching career in Missouri and is also a Missouri native. Second is Marty Simmons, currently an assistant at Clemson he was previously the head coach at Evansville and before that SIU-E. Last is a big name that would certainly bring a lot of buzz to the Lindenwood community if he were to be hired, Michael Porter, Sr. Assistant coach and Missouri and of course father to Denver Nuggets player, Michael Porter, Jr. A good mix of candidates I would say, hopefully we know more soon as the July recruiting period will be picking up shortly.

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    I follow LU and South Dakota State. Although it looks like LU has three good finalists, the Jacks are far ahead in recruiting at this point unless somebody can get in there and keep some of the recruits. Did Ryan Hamm do recruiting? I guess the decision of whether he sticks around will be up to the new hire.

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    BTW--Each of these finalists sounds like they have a stronger resume than Randall did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzled LU View Post
    I follow LU and South Dakota State. Although it looks like LU has three good finalists, the Jacks are far ahead in recruiting at this point unless somebody can get in there and keep some of the recruits. Did Ryan Hamm do recruiting? I guess the decision of whether he sticks around will be up to the new hire.
    I would venture to guess Hamm did the bulk of the recruiting as there was a ton of assistant coach turnover throughout the Randall era, outside of Coach Hamm I don't believe another assistant lasted more than a year. It will be interesting to see what Coach Hamm does, try to stay on as the assistant at Lindenwood or follow Randall back to St. Leo. I agree with you that the candidates have strong resumes - with the nice facilities and campus that Lindenwood has it should attract some good recruits, just need the right guy at the helm.

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    Thought LU had money troubles, but if those are the three finalists they have very good resumes. How much $ does Lindenwood have on the table? South Dakota State did an inside promotion to take Otzelberger's place, primarily because I think they wanted some stability and not another three years and out coach. Think they saved over a hundred thou in promoting internally-- think the new coach will be pulling down about $280,000. (Otz made $350,000 before contract increases signed before he left --UNLV paid some big bucks to get him out of there--and was the second highest in the Summit other than cellar dweller Denver.) Would guess Lindenwood's pay to be in the mid one hundreds, how are they getting these names? I'd assume an assistant coach at Mizzou or Clemson would have to be in the 300K+ range.
    Last edited by Grizzled LU; 06-25-2019 at 01:44 AM.

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    It could be just the appeal to be a head coach and run your own program that a guy would be willing to take a pay cut for - I'd find it hard to imagine any of these guys are living pay check to pay check. Lindenwood has always compensated their coaches fairly well, if I'm not mistaken the rumor was that Brad Soderberg was one of the highest paid D2 coaches when he was at Lindenwood - and that was shortly after they had made the move from NAIA to D2. Bad thing is that with Lindenwood being a private institution I doubt we will ever find out.

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    Head Coach at Clemson is on a short leash and possibly why Marty is looking because a new coach will not keep him. The Porter experiment led to his 2 talented kids heading to Mizzou, unfortunately they couldn’t stay healthy. Not sure what other value he brings to Mizzou and Conzo is getting creamed in the recruiting war in the SEC. He has to start getting competitive real soon or he too will be gone.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoTheLion View Post
    It could be just the appeal to be a head coach and run your own program that a guy would be willing to take a pay cut for - I'd find it hard to imagine any of these guys are living pay check to pay check. Lindenwood has always compensated their coaches fairly well, if I'm not mistaken the rumor was that Brad Soderberg was one of the highest paid D2 coaches when he was at Lindenwood - and that was shortly after they had made the move from NAIA to D2. Bad thing is that with Lindenwood being a private institution I doubt we will ever find out.

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    Kyle Gerdeman has been named the 20th coach in program history. The former Central Michigan assistant had a connection with the Lindenwood Athletic Director, Brad Wachler, who was also at Central Michigan before coming to Lindenwood.

    https://lindenwoodlions.com/news/201...px?path=mbball

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    If Wachler knows and likes him, it's enough for me. He's from Wright City, so he should know what he's getting into. Feel better about him than a P5 assistant who might be looking cause he's under the gun.

    It's awfully late in the year so he better get started on recruiting if the present recruits take off. SDSU went through this big time when Otz took off with their best returning player and they also lost a highly regarded recruit--but that was spring and they did a good job of recovering. I think last years LU team was more or less a one man show so they'd have a lot of recruiting to do anyway but this is awfully late for such a shakeup. Hopefully they'll get a 19-20 roster up sometime by late July.

    No comments this morning on the Central Michigan fan board-- which didn't look overly active anyway.

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    Yes certainly a lot of holes to fill with the departures of Brad Newman and Chandler Diekvoss, two 1000 point scorers for the lions. Along with steady point guard Adam Pohlman, those three each played 30+ minutes a game. A lot of minutes up for grabs and with no true scorer returning from last years roster we could see a new guy come in a run the show right away.

    It's a shame last years senior heavy team couldn't figure it out for whatever reason, they had plenty of opportunities to pick up high quality wins but just couldn't capitalize i.e: @Mankato, @ #10 Florida Southern, @ Washburn, neutral vs. #4 West Texas A&M, Neutral vs #18 St Cloud State. All of these were single digit losses to teams that made the national tournament, they were right there - just couldn't get over the hump.

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    I should have given Diekvoss and Pohlmann some reps, both were perfectly adequate D2 players. I spend a fair amount of time driving long distances to Slummit games (welcome back UMKC) and I thought Newman was a player that could have been productive at the mid major level.

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    Speaking of UMKC-- think the entire team left when Kareem got booted. Hope something like that doesn't happen this late in the year with LU. Assume Wachler briefed the new hire so he'll know what he's getting into. Be interesting to see what happens with assistant coaches. Guess on the football side, assistants were swapped out during Ross's last year and again with the new HC, so house cleanings aren't always a bad thing.

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    Coach on campus yet?
    Assistant coaches?
    Leaving players?
    Patching holes?

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    Have not seen or heard much at all since the announcement of the new hire. My guess would be that the local recruits and players will stay on board, but tough to say if others will follow the coaching staff. I know Randall had a high school commit from the high school he and his dad used to coach at in Wisconsin, Coach Hamm also had a pair of brothers signed (one a JUCO prospect, the other a D1 transfer from Air Force) that were from his area in Kentucky. Those would be the recruits I see most likely to follow Randall to St. Leo.

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    Officially no returning starters from the previous years team. Diego Womack was set up for a big junior year, he is a bouncy wing man who is much better than his stats showed as he was overshadowed by two 1000 point scoring seniors. He will be a good player for whoever is able to pick him up.

    https://twitter.com/Diego_Womack/sta...04394322575360

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    Well, Womack's departure certainly hurts a lot.

    South Dakota lost their best player, Stanley Umude, but returning medical redshirts and grabbing two stellar D2 transfers by Todd Lee made him reconsider. Hopefully the new coach will be on campus and able to do a sell-job and keep him around.

    The St. Louis market is such that unless someone is shot on campus, there's next to no coverage for LU. This and their sports information people are probably more apt to be students??? than a mid major d1 program. At any rate, they need to get some assistant coaches in place and start putting out positive information on newcomers-- if there are any.

    Notice that Hamm is not listed as an assistant coach on the St. Leo's website, so is he just hanging around waiting to hear if he has a job?

    This is awfully late to be having the wheels drop off. Too lazy to know what happened to the St. Leo's HC position to cause such a late switch.

    Hopefully the new coach has the presence of someone like Brad Soderberg. Had him speak to a service club I belong to and at the last second he found out that two in his audience were South Dakota State grads. Put in about three minutes detailing his experiences in Brookings without a hiccup and tied everything into getting out to some LU games. That convinced me and I've been going to Lindenwood games ever since. That's what a head coach should be doing.

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    Apparently St. Leo's former HC is now an assistant at Rice. Late changes bring havoc, but I'm hopeful Gerdeman will be better than a .500 coach.

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    The main concern for me is that if there is major roster turnover in July, how well will Gerdeman be able to fill out the roster on such short notice? and what quality of player is still out there this far into the summer?

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