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    Quote Originally Posted by laker View Post
    It would be interesting to see what the NSIC requirements actually are. Someone must know where they are posted.
    From page 29 of the NSIC bylaws.

    https://nsic_ftp.sidearmsports.com/c...f?path=general

    1. Required Sports.
    Required sports must meet the minimum sport qualifications based on the NCAA Manual.
    Institutions shall sponsor a minimum of 10 sports, either four men’s sports and six
    women’s sports, or five men’s sports and five women’s sports.

    The required conference sports for men are: football, basketball, and one other spring
    conference championship sport. The required conference sports for women are:
    volleyball, soccer, basketball, and one other spring conference championship sport

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    Quote Originally Posted by laker View Post
    From page 29 of the NSIC bylaws.

    https://nsic_ftp.sidearmsports.com/c...f?path=general

    1. Required Sports.
    Required sports must meet the minimum sport qualifications based on the NCAA Manual.
    Institutions shall sponsor a minimum of 10 sports, either four men’s sports and six
    women’s sports, or five men’s sports and five women’s sports.

    The required conference sports for men are: football, basketball, and one other spring
    conference championship sport. The required conference sports for women are:
    volleyball, soccer, basketball, and one other spring conference championship sport
    Interesting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by StateU View Post
    Agreed! But I believe their endowment is valued at $500 million.
    According to the internets it is $500 Million. I looked it up the other day and saw billion but that is wrong. Not sure where I saw that, but I looked it up. I got that wrong and $500 M is correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanger86 View Post
    It's not just about scheduling the MIAA. Splitting up the NSIC would mean those other current NSIC teams can become potential nonconference games, just like MIAA teams could schedule some of those seven GLVC teams from Missouri if they wanted. Wayne can schedule a Kearney or Chadron. Crookston could schedule a Jamestown. If we ended up in separate leagues, we could schedule Northern. We wouldn't have to drive 6 hours and over 300 miles to find the nearest nonconference in-region D2 opponent (and we're a plus-located school in terms of proximity to in-region nonconference schools.

    Adding nonconference simply gives the teams the option. If Winona would rather travel to Carson-Newman than play a UMary, they should have that option. If teams want to just schedule teams currently in the NSIC, that'd still be an option. But it gives them a choice, rather than it being forced upon them.
    all of this is an exercise in futility since it requires the league to be split in 2.

    not going to happen.

    who in the current league do you think would vote for this? I can't think of more than 1-4 schools that might seriously even consider it, yet alone vote for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
    The bold comments are pure speculation.

    The MIAA screwed things up by eliminating non-conference games. They are fixing that as we type. Hopefully the NSIC does the same.
    i admit it is speculation. I do think MIAA schools would be happy to schedule USF or Mankato. beyond that unlikely. UMD is too far.

    you are well versed and connected with the MIAA. I doubt they would want to come to Marshall, Bismarck, or Bemidji

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMustang View Post
    i admit it is speculation. I do think MIAA schools would be happy to schedule USF or Mankato. beyond that unlikely. UMD is too far.

    you are well versed and connected with the MIAA. I doubt they would want to come to Marshall, Bismarck, or Bemidji
    Doesn’t seem too much further to go to Marshall if willing to go to Mankato or Sioux Falls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMustang View Post
    all of this is an exercise in futility since it requires the league to be split in 2.

    not going to happen.

    who in the current league do you think would vote for this? I can't think of more than 1-4 schools that might seriously even consider it, yet alone vote for it.
    Shoot, I can't remember what I read earlier today but I think it needed a 2/3rds vote. So you would need 11 schools to kick someone out- or add a team if I got my math right. I could name a lot of combinations that could block any move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMustang View Post
    all of this is an exercise in futility since it requires the league to be split in 2.

    not going to happen.

    who in the current league do you think would vote for this? I can't think of more than 1-4 schools that might seriously even consider it, yet alone vote for it.
    I don't know. All depends on if the schools think their situation can be improved.

    I feel like we get complaints from basketball coaches at least one time every year about NSIC travel. Football coaches probably don't love having Crookston ruin the SOS every year. Maybe other football coaches want to play their biggest rival every year. Others might want an even playing field in terms of funding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanger86 View Post
    I don't know. All depends on if the schools think their situation can be improved.

    I feel like we get complaints from basketball coaches at least one time every year about NSIC travel. Football coaches probably don't love having Crookston ruin the SOS every year. Maybe other football coaches want to play their biggest rival every year. Others might want an even playing field in terms of funding.
    But the coaches don't vote.

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    New seats at Crookston!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMustang View Post
    i admit it is speculation. I do think MIAA schools would be happy to schedule USF or Mankato. beyond that unlikely. UMD is too far.

    you are well versed and connected with the MIAA. I doubt they would want to come to Marshall, Bismarck, or Bemidji
    Our database has games from 2006-2018. I was curious where some of the northernmost MIAA teams would travel. I did not include home games against opponents from far away.

    Central Missouri - @ Minnesota State
    Emporia State - @ Western State @ Augustana
    Missouri Western - @ Minnesota-Duluth @ Northern State @ Colorado Mesa
    Northwest Missouri - @ Abilene Christian (NW has played @ SDSU, @ Mankato, @ Midwestern State etc. in the recent past)
    Washburn - @ Colorado Mines @ Western Washington @ Sioux Falls

    I think the MIAA teams would be willing to travel in home-and-home arrangements. I think this would be especially true if it were made mandatory for playoff participation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laker View Post
    Shoot, I can't remember what I read earlier today but I think it needed a 2/3rds vote. So you would need 11 schools to kick someone out- or add a team if I got my math right. I could name a lot of combinations that could block any move.
    It's almost impossible to kick a team out of a conference. The lawsuits would pile up. It would simply be easier to form a completely new conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
    Our database has games from 2006-2018. I was curious where some of the northernmost MIAA teams would travel. I did not include home games against opponents from far away.

    Central Missouri - @ Minnesota State
    Emporia State - @ Western State @ Augustana
    Missouri Western - @ Minnesota-Duluth @ Northern State @ Colorado Mesa
    Northwest Missouri - @ Abilene Christian (NW has played @ SDSU, @ Mankato, @ Midwestern State etc. in the recent past)
    Washburn - @ Colorado Mines @ Western Washington @ Sioux Falls

    I think the MIAA teams would be willing to travel in home-and-home arrangements. I think this would be especially true if it were made mandatory for playoff participation.
    Your definition of recent past has changed considerably as you have aged. The Bearcats haven't played SDSU in 15 years and it's been 20 years since they played Midwestern State in a regular season game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornetfan View Post
    Your definition of recent past has changed considerably as you have aged. The Bearcats haven't played SDSU in 15 years and it's been 20 years since they played Midwestern State in a regular season game.
    You're probably right.

    I think the Midwestern game should be relegated to "the past." I never thought about it being 20 years. The SDSU game, to me, is recent past. "Recently would be anything the last 10 years and under or so, but that's not really applicable since the MIAA changed its scheduling. The last four to five years are mostly all that matters when it comes to recruiting.

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