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    Quote Originally Posted by GoBuffsGo View Post
    Are you talking about WT here? It's been a bad year alright. We've only won or shared the conference championship in 6 out of 10 sports. Starting last September, our teams have won 75% of their games, including football, volleyball, men's and women's basketball, baseball and softball.

    I sure hope we don't get stuck in this slump. I'd sure like to do better next year.
    Quote Originally Posted by Techster88 View Post
    Holy smokes Batman WT football won 75% percent of their games. Wait a minute their record was 6-5. Hmmmm must’ve used Chinese Arithmetic to get to 75%.
    Sport Won Lost Tied Played Win %
    Basketball - Mens 34 4 38 89.5%
    Basketball - Womens 29 4 33 87.9%
    Soccer - Mens 17 3 3 23 73.9%
    Soccer - Womens 15 3 3 21 71.4%
    Football 6 5 11 54.5%
    Volleyball 19 13 32 59.4%
    Softball 24 10 34 70.6%
    Baseball 24 8 32 75.0%
    Average Win % = 72.8%


    ....even including soccer, it looks like standard arithmetic to me.

    But yes, WT football has plenty of room for improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyBeerManTX View Post
    Sport Won Lost Tied Played Win %
    Basketball - Mens 34 4 38 89.5%
    Basketball - Womens 29 4 33 87.9%
    Soccer - Mens 17 3 3 23 73.9%
    Soccer - Womens 15 3 3 21 71.4%
    Football 6 5 11 54.5%
    Volleyball 19 13 32 59.4%
    Softball 24 10 34 70.6%
    Baseball 24 8 32 75.0%
    Average Win % = 72.8%


    ....even including soccer, it looks like standard arithmetic to me.

    But yes, WT football has plenty of room for improvement.
    Once again, for those who are not catching on. This is a FOOTBALL BOARD. So, with that being said 54.5% = 75%. Chinese Calculus was employed.

    Congrats on the OT sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techster88 View Post
    Once again, for those who are not catching on. This is a FOOTBALL BOARD. So, with that being said 54.5% = 75%. Chinese Calculus was employed.

    Congrats on the OT sports.
    Im sure you aren't excited at all about Tech in the Final 4 then huh or their CWS appearances the past few years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WT_ALUM08 View Post
    Im sure you aren't excited at all about Tech in the Final 4 then huh or their CWS appearances the past few years?
    True, the OT sports are doing really well at Tech. But, I do not tell Blow U fans on another football board how we are dominating them in other sports. Because they could care less. Most are football only jug heads. Last time I checked our FB program is in desperate need of attention.

    To your point, at least some one in Lubbock can play Defense. But, I do not follow basketball and couldn't name three of the players on the team. Beard learned well from Bob Knight during his days at Tech. I am sure Knight is proud.

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    Back to the original topic at hand. ASU and Cameron play a big series in Angelo this weekend. Both teams come in at 6-2 in conference. Cameron took 3 of 4 from Kingsville and 3-4 from Tarleton. ASU swept UTPB and split with WT.
    ASU has a substantially better overall record at 25-7 while Cameron is 15-18 overall.
    ASU continues to lead the conference in offense hitting at .336 clip for the team while leading (or tied) the conference in hits, home runs, and RBI's. Cameron is at the bottom of the standings offensively with a team BA of .245.
    Pitching is a bit closer as ASU has a team ERA of 5.05 which is 3rd in the conference while Cameron has a team ERA of 6.32 which is 5th in the conference. Control could be key as Cameron has walked 60 more batters than ASU.
    Defensively ASU is second in the conference in fielding % at .962 (.001 point behind the conference leader UTPB) while Cameron is next to last in fielding at .947.

    Should be good weather for baseball this weekend, and I hope to make it out to at least one game this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techster88 View Post
    Last time I checked this was a football board and WT football has been awful to mediocre since the last of Carthel players ran through the program. All the yap about the program under the current regime would leave me to believe they are on par with the best of the LSC. Sorry, not even close and wouldn’t hold my breath this fall either.

    So, Pops let them revel in the OT sports.

    Seriously, how long are Buff fans expected to be patient? I know I expect those blind maroon goggled cronies to come on here and paint a rosy picture of how they are on the cusp of the playoffs. Reality doesn’t live with some of their supporters.
    I'd say 2 seasons. We need to see big strides in our offense immediately. We need to see the record improve this year, even 7-4 would be good. If Hughes is still doing 6-5 seasons by 2020, I wouldn't be surprised to see McBroom make a change. 6-5 in 2020 and I would advise him, if he asked, to find a new HC. 4 years to get into the top tier, top 3 of the LSC, or else.
    Last edited by BuffaloChip; 04-04-2019 at 02:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techster88 View Post
    Last time I checked this was a football board and WT football has been awful to mediocre since the last of Carthel players ran through the program. All the yap about the program under the current regime would leave me to believe they are on par with the best of the LSC. Sorry, not even close and wouldn’t hold my breath this fall either.

    So, Pops let them revel in the OT sports.

    Seriously, how long are Buff fans expected to be patient? I know I expect those blind maroon goggled cronies to come on here and paint a rosy picture of how they are on the cusp of the playoffs. Reality doesn’t live with some of their supporters.
    In all fairness....WT over all win % in 8 team sports is .744, their LSC win % is .714. (Mens .668 & Womens .760).

    I was simply speaking to all the hype about WT sports programs getting better by leaps and bounds....and it appeared to me that this was a false statement.

    So, instead of eating lunch today, figured I would look for myself. I compared 2018-2019 to 2015-2016 (4 seasons apart to see the massive growth)

    Mens Overall
    2015-2016 - .612 Win %
    2018-2019 - .749 Win %

    Mens LSC
    2015-2016 - .581 Win %
    2018-2019 - .668 Win %

    Womens Overall
    2015-2016 - .753 Win %
    2018-2019 - .739 Win %

    Womens LSC
    2015-2016 - .776 Win %
    2018-2019 - .760 Win %

    So.....it appears both mens overall & LSC win % has gotten much better (except for football).

    It also appears that not only has womens sports not improved, but have taken a small step backwards.

    All the hype talk has been about football and womens sports, when it clearly should be MENS sports (again, except football).

    Overall combined
    2015-2016 - .683 Win %
    2018-2019 - .744 Win %

    LSC combined
    2015-2016 - .667 Win %
    2018-2019 - .714 Win %

    Looking from a combined program win % standpoint, WT sports overall & in the conference HAS improved in the past 4 seasons.

    I STAND CORRECTED.
    Last edited by ASUPops; 04-04-2019 at 01:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASURAM2010 View Post
    Back to the original topic at hand. ASU and Cameron play a big series in Angelo this weekend. Both teams come in at 6-2 in conference. Cameron took 3 of 4 from Kingsville and 3-4 from Tarleton. ASU swept UTPB and split with WT.
    ASU has a substantially better overall record at 25-7 while Cameron is 15-18 overall.
    ASU continues to lead the conference in offense hitting at .336 clip for the team while leading (or tied) the conference in hits, home runs, and RBI's. Cameron is at the bottom of the standings offensively with a team BA of .245.
    Pitching is a bit closer as ASU has a team ERA of 5.05 which is 3rd in the conference while Cameron has a team ERA of 6.32 which is 5th in the conference. Control could be key as Cameron has walked 60 more batters than ASU.
    Defensively ASU is second in the conference in fielding % at .962 (.001 point behind the conference leader UTPB) while Cameron is next to last in fielding at .947.

    Should be good weather for baseball this weekend, and I hope to make it out to at least one game this weekend.
    Didnt mean for the thread to get hijacked because of a simple sentence. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUPops View Post
    In all fairness....WT over all win % in 8 team sports is .744, their LSC win % is .714. (Mens .668 & Womens .760).

    I was simply speaking to all the hype about WT sports programs getting better by leaps and bounds....and it appeared to me that this was a false statement.

    So, instead of eating lunch today, figured I would look for myself. I compared 2018-2019 to 2015-2016 (4 seasons apart to see the massive growth)

    Mens Overall
    2015-2016 - .612 Win %
    2018-2019 - .749 Win %

    Mens LSC
    2015-2016 - .581 Win %
    2018-2019 - .668 Win %

    Womens Overall
    2015-2016 - .753 Win %
    2018-2019 - .739 Win %

    Womens LSC
    2015-2016 - .776 Win %
    2018-2019 - .760 Win %

    So.....it appears both mens overall & LSC win % has gotten much better (accept for football).

    It also appears that not only has womens sports not improved, but have taken a small step backwards.

    All the hype talk has been about football and womens sports, when it clearly should be MENS sports (again, accept football).

    Overall combined
    2015-2016 - .683 Win %
    2018-2019 - .744 Win %

    LSC combined
    2015-2016 - .667 Win %
    2018-2019 - .714 Win %

    Looking from a combined program win % standpoint, WT sports overall & in the conference HAS improved in the past 4 seasons.

    I STAND CORRECTED.
    Awe, the except for football ON A FOOTBALL BOARD quote.

    The point I was making is that not many care about the lower profile sports on a Football Board. And lumping them with your Football program to show you are a winner doesn’t make your football team a dominant force. In other words let’s mask our under performing football team with Women’s Soccer and Women’s Golf to show everyone how well we are doing. Weak argument at best as probably less than 10% of students at WT even care what those programs are doing or even know they are winning.

    The percentage of students definitely sky rockets when football comes into conversation.

    Glad to see Chip acknowledges the program has to make strides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techster88 View Post
    Awe, the except for football ON A FOOTBALL BOARD quote.

    The point I was making is that not many care about the lower profile sports on a Football Board. And lumping them with your Football program to show you are a winner doesn’t make your football team a dominant force. In other words let’s mask our under performing football team with Women’s Soccer and Women’s Golf to show everyone how well we are doing. Weak argument at best as probably less than 10% of students at WT even care what those programs are doing or even know they are winning.

    The percentage of students definitely sky rockets when football comes into conversation.

    Glad to see Chip acknowledges the program has to make strides.
    You are absolutely correct!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUPops View Post
    In all fairness....WT over all win % in 8 team sports is .744, their LSC win % is .714. (Mens .668 & Womens .760).

    I was simply speaking to all the hype about WT sports programs getting better by leaps and bounds....and it appeared to me that this was a false statement.

    So, instead of eating lunch today, figured I would look for myself. I compared 2018-2019 to 2015-2016 (4 seasons apart to see the massive growth)

    Mens Overall
    2015-2016 - .612 Win %
    2018-2019 - .749 Win %

    Mens LSC
    2015-2016 - .581 Win %
    2018-2019 - .668 Win %

    Womens Overall
    2015-2016 - .753 Win %
    2018-2019 - .739 Win %

    Womens LSC
    2015-2016 - .776 Win %
    2018-2019 - .760 Win %

    So.....it appears both mens overall & LSC win % has gotten much better (except for football).

    It also appears that not only has womens sports not improved, but have taken a small step backwards.

    All the hype talk has been about football and womens sports, when it clearly should be MENS sports (again, except football).

    Overall combined
    2015-2016 - .683 Win %
    2018-2019 - .744 Win %

    LSC combined
    2015-2016 - .667 Win %
    2018-2019 - .714 Win %

    Looking from a combined program win % standpoint, WT sports overall & in the conference HAS improved in the past 4 seasons.

    I STAND CORRECTED.
    This got me curious about what those numbers looked like for ASU over that same time period:(I used the data from the most recent completed season)
    Men's Overall
    2015-2016: 71.84% (led by Men's Basketball at 78.13%)
    2018-2019: 64.52% (led by Men's Basketball at 70%)

    Men's LSC
    2015-2016: 60% (led by Men's Basketball at 64.29%)
    2018-2019: 62% (led by Men's Basketball at 72.27%)

    Women's Overall
    2015-2016: 73.76% (lead by Volleyball at 84.62%)
    2018-2019: 76.87% (led by Softball at 85.48%)

    Women's LSC
    2015-2016: 71.01% (led by Volleyball at 87.50%)
    2018-2019: 80.25% (led by Women's basketball at 85%)
    Our women's programs have increased their winning % both overall and within the LSC from 15-16 to 18-19
    Our men's programs have been a mixed bag, their overall winning percentage has dropped significantly, but the conference winning % has increased

    ASU's Total Winning Percentage:
    Overall:
    2015-2016: 72.95%
    2018-2019: 72.08%
    LSC ONLY:
    2015-2016: 65.60%
    2018-2019: 72.73%
    Last edited by ASURAM2010; 04-04-2019 at 02:46 PM. Reason: Wrong Numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUPops View Post
    In all fairness....WT over all win % in 8 team sports is .744, their LSC win % is .714. (Mens .668 & Womens .760).

    I was simply speaking to all the hype about WT sports programs getting better by leaps and bounds....and it appeared to me that this was a false statement.

    So, instead of eating lunch today, figured I would look for myself. I compared 2018-2019 to 2015-2016 (4 seasons apart to see the massive growth)

    Mens Overall
    2015-2016 - .612 Win %
    2018-2019 - .749 Win %

    Mens LSC
    2015-2016 - .581 Win %
    2018-2019 - .668 Win %

    Womens Overall
    2015-2016 - .753 Win %
    2018-2019 - .739 Win %

    Womens LSC
    2015-2016 - .776 Win %
    2018-2019 - .760 Win %

    So.....it appears both mens overall & LSC win % has gotten much better (except for football).

    It also appears that not only has womens sports not improved, but have taken a small step backwards.

    All the hype talk has been about football and womens sports, when it clearly should be MENS sports (again, except football).

    Overall combined
    2015-2016 - .683 Win %
    2018-2019 - .744 Win %

    LSC combined
    2015-2016 - .667 Win %
    2018-2019 - .714 Win %

    Looking from a combined program win % standpoint, WT sports overall & in the conference HAS improved in the past 4 seasons.

    I STAND CORRECTED.
    Thanks for the numbers. The big drop off was in Volleyball and to a lesser extent, softball. I'd bet some bucks that the volleyball downturn has been addressed. IMO, the jury's still out on softball. The softball trend is not encouraging.

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    I'm currently working on these numbers for every university (outside of TWU, I don't really count them). Will be interesting to see what the graphs looks like for each sport etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASURAM2010 View Post
    I'm currently working on these numbers for every university (outside of TWU, I don't really count them). Will be interesting to see what the graphs looks like for each sport etc.
    It is very interesting. #s tell the truth.

    We all like to hype and talk smack, it's fun.....but knowing the facts is important if you really want to improve a program.

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    Here is what I was able to put together. This is by no means the gospel, but what I was able to put together from the conference website.
    The first link is to the results in graph form https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing
    The second link is the actual percentages by university and by sport. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    Let me know if something looks out of whack to you and I will double check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASURAM2010 View Post
    Here is what I was able to put together. This is by no means the gospel, but what I was able to put together from the conference website.
    The first link is to the results in graph form https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing
    The second link is the actual percentages by university and by sport. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

    Let me know if something looks out of whack to you and I will double check.
    So ASU has the highest win% of all LSC schools across the board????

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    Quote Originally Posted by LSC Fan View Post
    Because LSC baseball a topic is so boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloChip View Post
    Because LSC baseball a topic is so boring.
    Unless WT is leading the conference ;) (jk)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASUPops View Post
    Unless WT is leading the conference ;) (jk)
    Slightly less boring. But, not by much. Kinda like if this thread was titled "OT-LSC Soccer."
    Last edited by BuffaloChip; 04-04-2019 at 10:11 PM.

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