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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalRam View Post
    Also, it looks like they are trying to push "HBCU experience" as a selling point to attract new students and support. Considering how big FL is there are only four HBCU's, and Bethune-Cookman is going through massive problems. With the right strategy, and it doesn't hurt being in the largest city in the state, EWC could see quick growth.
    What's going on at Bethune-Cookman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4_tattoos View Post
    What's going on at Bethune-Cookman?
    https://www.news-journalonline.com/o...arency-baffles

    Long story short, Bethune-Cookman is in all sorts of financial troubles and has been put on probation. They agreed to a horrible deal to build a new dorm which somehow on paper was to cost over $70 million but based off of a lease/financing agreement they will end up having to pay over $300 million in the long run. It appears that the documents were forged, which B-CU could prove; however, they still went through with the deal. I think there have also been defaults and lawsuits against the builder.

    Also, add to that a lot of administration turnover. However, they finally named their new President (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...423-story.html).

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    Word in in the SIAC that EWC is serving as a SIAC West schedule filler this year with its sights set on going NCAA DII and become a full league member in the future. So you have Savannah going into the East and EWC for the West.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pennbraz View Post
    Word in in the SIAC that EWC is serving as a SIAC West schedule filler this year with its sights set on going NCAA DII and become a full league member in the future. So you have Savannah going into the East and EWC for the West.
    Doesn't make geographic since seeing as how Jacksonville is in the far northeastern part of Florida. Not a coastal city like Savannah, but way too far east to be placed in the western division. IF EWC does make the jump one day, the smartest thing would be to move the western most Georgia school from the east to the west. Give whoever that is a permanent cross divisional opponent with their main rival that's remains in the east.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pennbraz View Post
    Word in in the SIAC that EWC is serving as a SIAC West schedule filler this year with its sights set on going NCAA DII and become a full league member in the future. So you have Savannah going into the East and EWC for the West.
    Quote Originally Posted by 4_tattoos View Post
    Doesn't make geographic since seeing as how Jacksonville is in the far northeastern part of Florida. Not a coastal city like Savannah, but way too far east to be placed in the western division. IF EWC does make the jump one day, the smartest thing would be to move the western most Georgia school from the east to the west. Give whoever that is a permanent cross divisional opponent with their main rival remaining that's remaining in the east.
    I wouldn't expect any progress on EWC's potential transition from NAIA to D2 until February 2020 at the earliest. The NCAA only received two applications from schools looking to join D2 for the 2019-2020 season - current D3 members College of Staten Island and Frostburg State. Typically, the deadline for applications for the coming season is in February of the prior season.

    While EWC filling spots on SIAC West football schedules makes some sense, even if it has the potential to cost those schools if they don't win the SIAC West and reach the title game (EWC is countable for stats, but not for playoff consideration), it could be worse: the Tampa Bay Bucs played in the AFC West for the first season or two when they joined the NFL, as I recall before they were placed in the NFC Central.
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    Edward Waters just hired a new AD. Previously served as AD at Grambling State and SC State (both FCS).

    I'm thinking this has got to be another step towards moving up.

    http://www.ewctigerpride.com/SIDHelp/m/a%7C313.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegalRam View Post
    https://www.news-journalonline.com/o...arency-baffles

    Long story short, Bethune-Cookman is in all sorts of financial troubles and has been put on probation. They agreed to a horrible deal to build a new dorm which somehow on paper was to cost over $70 million but based off of a lease/financing agreement they will end up having to pay over $300 million in the long run. It appears that the documents were forged, which B-CU could prove; however, they still went through with the deal. I think there have also been defaults and lawsuits against the builder.

    Also, add to that a lot of administration turnover. However, they finally named their new President (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...423-story.html).
    Sorry for late reply lol

    If Bethune-Cookman is really in that bad of a financial situation, you'd have to think a possible move to D2 could/would be a last resort option (at least an option ahead of cutting athletics altogether like some schools have done in the past). Would the Florida Classic be hurt if B-C had to go to D2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4_tattoos View Post
    Sorry for late reply lol

    If Bethune-Cookman is really in that bad of a financial situation, you'd have to think a possible move to D2 could/would be a last resort option (at least an option ahead of cutting athletics altogether like some schools have done in the past). Would the Florida Classic be hurt if B-C had to go to D2?
    One would hope they would make the call to move down if that was needed to keep the doors open, but pride could get in the way. SC State and Norfolk State should have both probably moved down a while ago due to financial issues; however, they have keep trucking along losing chunks of money each year trying to stay D1. With Savannah State moving to D2 that might open up the doors for other schools to realize that it might be the best move to come to D2.

    If by chance B-CU ever decided to move to D2 the FL Classic could continue; however, if B-CU had aspirations of the playoffs the game would need to be moved up earlier in the season. Similar to how Bama State and TU stopped playing in the Turkey Day Classic, but now play at the beginning of the season.

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    OT: IIRC, weren't some Aggie-Eagle classic games played at the Panthers stadium when NC Central was in D2? Or at some other "neutral site" in North Carolina?

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