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    Quote Originally Posted by EyeoftheHawk View Post
    Same conference as Cal Poly Pomona, who beat the IUP men in the NC game several years ago. That was a great IUP team that could never figure out their zone defense that day.

    Should be an interesting matchup. Looks like Azusa has a size advantage.


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    Couldn't figure out a zone? Sounds familiar. Just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Couldn't figure out a zone? Sounds familiar. Just sayin'
    I don't think Joe teams have trouble with basic zones. I think he has trouble with junk defenses/zones. That's not just Joe, that's most coaches. Those junk defenses aren't always the easiest to figure out because you can put so many twists and turns in them. A lot of times, it's up to the PG to figure out what exactly is going on with those junk defenses. The coach can show you all the sets out of that junk defense but it's up to that PG to figure it out live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPalum View Post
    I don't think Joe teams have trouble with basic zones. I think he has trouble with junk defenses/zones. That's not just Joe, that's most coaches. Those junk defenses aren't always the easiest to figure out because you can put so many twists and turns in them. A lot of times, it's up to the PG to figure out what exactly is going on with those junk defenses. The coach can show you all the sets out of that junk defense but it's up to that PG to figure it out live.
    Gary Edwards was the master of the junk defense. No one could ever figure that cat out...in all facets of life. LOL.

    Didn't the IUP men play Azuza Pacific back in 2015 en route to the national title game? Sounds familiar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post
    Gary Edwards was the master of the junk defense. No one could ever figure that cat out...in all facets of life. LOL.

    Didn't the IUP men play Azuza Pacific back in 2015 en route to the national title game? Sounds familiar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPalum View Post
    I don't think Joe teams have trouble with basic zones. I think he has trouble with junk defenses/zones. That's not just Joe, that's most coaches. Those junk defenses aren't always the easiest to figure out because you can put so many twists and turns in them. A lot of times, it's up to the PG to figure out what exactly is going on with those junk defenses. The coach can show you all the sets out of that junk defense but it's up to that PG to figure it out live.

    Somebody help me out here... I feel like I know basketball, but I need some help.

    I know a 2-3 zone, I know a 3-2 zone, and I know what a Triangle and Two is (Hurst’s D).

    What is a “junk defense?” Is that your own term or is that a real style of defense? I’ve been watching basketball for a long time and I’ve just never heard that term before.


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    Junk Defenses:

    Basically junk defenses are different types of zones but it's what you run out of the zone. Like you can start out in a 2-3 zone but there is different things you can do out of that set. Like wise with all zone defenses.

    In the case of Mercyhurst... They run that triangle and 2 BUT sometimes they pressure the 3 point line and sometimes they don't depending who has the ball, etc. They also give it the appearance of man to man sometimes but it really isn't. That's where the term "junk" comes from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP24 View Post
    Somebody help me out here... I feel like I know basketball, but I need some help.

    I know a 2-3 zone, I know a 3-2 zone, and I know what a Triangle and Two is (Hurst’s D).

    What is a “junk defense?” Is that your own term or is that a real style of defense? I’ve been watching basketball for a long time and I’ve just never heard that term before.


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    Typical defense is man to man or zone (regardless if it’s 2-3, 3-2, 1-3-1).

    A junk defense is a combination of both man and zone (box and 1, diamond and 1, triangle and 2). The goal of the junk defense is to make it difficult for star players to get the ball. They are tightly guarded man to man with defenders trying to deny the pass while the other defenders are playing a zone.

    Mercyhurst doesn’t make it obvious what they are doing because they don’t make an obvious triangle and they aren’t in an aggressive “deny” posture in the man to man component. Some might call it a matchup zone.

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