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    Round 1 is a very good lineup -- and a very difficult slate of game to pick. I'll save the official picks for later in the week but a few thoughts:


    Fairmont State vs. Mercyhurst -- This is the 4/5 game nobody saw coming -- mainly because most didn't think Fairmont deserved the 5 seed. One thing for certain is it will be near culture shock for the Falcons to see the Lakers' vaunted triangle and two zone. Statistically, Mercyhurst is one of the best defensive teams in the country -- giving up just over 60 ppg for the season. Mercyhurst plays an extremely physical style of basketball and really frustrates opponents. It's going to be difficult for FSU to deal with this weekend. The Lakers aren't a big team in the height department but they have a lot of muscle down low. Having seen Fairmont in person the Falcons are going to have a difficult time with Patrick Smith under the basket. For FSU to win this game it will have to push, push and push the the pace. It's extremely difficult to speed Mercyhurst up but that's there only chance. The Lakers will turn this in to a slop-fest.


    Notre Dame vs. Virginia State -- Very tough assignment here for No. 3 VSU. Notre Dame enters the game sky-high after winning the MEC title. VSU is an extremely athletic, deep and fast team. They also have some big boys who can help to slow down Will Vorhees. That said, I think Vorhees has a good match-up in this game.

    East Stroudsburg vs. West Liberty -- Forty minutes of pressure vs forty minutes of pressure. ESU got real frustrated in its loss to Mercyhurst -- not uncommon. Unfortunately, that resulted in an extremely costly technical foul. The Warriors have to do a much better job of keeping their cool against a WL team that will cause them all sorts of problems. ESU's Ryan Smith has to (and should) have a huge game against the much smaller Hilltopper post. This should be, perhaps, the most entertaining game of the day. Don't blink. You'll miss 12 points. ESU certainly isn't an easy assignment on Day 1. ESU can put up a big number in this game. Can it be bigger than the one WL will put up?

    West Chester vs. IUP -- Last week doesn't mean a thing. That game is long gone. Dante Lombardi won't look like Stephen Curry again this Saturday. Tim Toro won't resemble Karl Malone, either. In Round 2 West Chester sold out on Cobo Diaz. In turn, Lombardi smoked them from all over the floor. It will be a tough environment for the Rams -- likely much worse than it was this past Saturday. The KCAC at night is a daunting task for visitors. West Chester is certainly capable of winning this game. Keep that in mind.

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    VSU/ND - 12 p.m.

    WL/ESU - 2:30 p.m.

    IUP/WCU - 5 p.m.

    Mercyhurst/FSU - 7:30 p.m.



    Sunday - 5pm and 7pm (The IUP side of the bracket will play in the 5 p.m. game)

    Tuesday - 7pm



    So, crowd-wise, the ESU/WL game will get a crowd for at least the second half as the IUP fans start to arrive. The first and last games will be pretty empty (I assume).

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    VSU/ND - 12 p.m.

    WL/ESU - 2:30 p.m.

    IUP/WCU - 5 p.m.

    Mercyhurst/FSU - 7:30 p.m.



    Sunday - 5pm and 7pm (The IUP side of the bracket will play in the 5 p.m. game)

    Tuesday - 7pm



    So, crowd-wise, the ESU/WL game will get a crowd for at least the second half as the IUP fans start to arrive. The first and last games will be pretty empty (I assume).
    Interesting. I’m surprised IUP isn’t going last since they aren’t taking the dinner break. Very surprised they’ll be the first game Sunday if they advance.

    With no break and no re-entry allowed I don’t think I could do all 4 Saturday games even if my life circumstances were different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Norris View Post
    Interesting. I’m surprised IUP isn’t going last since they aren’t taking the dinner break. Very surprised they’ll be the first game Sunday if they advance.

    With no break and no re-entry allowed I don’t think I could do all 4 Saturday games even if my life circumstances were different.
    Four straight wouldn't be easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Four straight wouldn't be easy.
    Oh if I can swing it, I can do it! I'm die hard!!! I did it two years ago in Buffalo for NCAA's.

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    This is the first time I’ve ever seen 4 games with no break between. I’ve done 4 games in a day nearly 20 times at the D1 level (Big East/ACC conf tourneys and NCAA tourney) and once in D2 at WL but there was always a break. Hopefully the KCAC ramps up the food selection a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPTrackMan View Post
    This is the first time I’ve ever seen 4 games with no break between. I’ve done 4 games in a day nearly 20 times at the D1 level (Big East/ACC conf tourneys and NCAA tourney) and once in D2 at WL but there was always a break. Hopefully the KCAC ramps up the food selection a bit.

    Bring a lot of money. LOL.

    Of all the food windows in the building I think the best one is the one that's kind of hidden (on the side of the Alumni Bar).

    Years ago they did a prime rib bar on certain nights. Perhaps they do something like that for this weekend.

    I see them having a ton of trouble enforcing this no re-entry thing. Their staff there normally doesn't even check tickets let alone enforce something like this. Of course, for the crowd that normally hangs out next door spending an extra $12 for a second ticket isn't that big of a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Round 1 is a very good lineup -- and a very difficult slate of game to pick. I'll save the official picks for later in the week but a few thoughts:


    Fairmont State vs. Mercyhurst -- This is the 4/5 game nobody saw coming -- mainly because most didn't think Fairmont deserved the 5 seed. One thing for certain is it will be near culture shock for the Falcons to see the Lakers' vaunted triangle and two zone. Statistically, Mercyhurst is one of the best defensive teams in the country -- giving up just over 60 ppg for the season. Mercyhurst plays an extremely physical style of basketball and really frustrates opponents. It's going to be difficult for FSU to deal with this weekend. The Lakers aren't a big team in the height department but they have a lot of muscle down low. Having seen Fairmont in person the Falcons are going to have a difficult time with Patrick Smith under the basket. For FSU to win this game it will have to push, push and push the the pace. It's extremely difficult to speed Mercyhurst up but that's there only chance. The Lakers will turn this in to a slop-fest.


    Notre Dame vs. Virginia State -- Very tough assignment here for No. 3 VSU. Notre Dame enters the game sky-high after winning the MEC title. VSU is an extremely athletic, deep and fast team. They also have some big boys who can help to slow down Will Vorhees. That said, I think Vorhees has a good match-up in this game.

    East Stroudsburg vs. West Liberty -- Forty minutes of pressure vs forty minutes of pressure. ESU got real frustrated in its loss to Mercyhurst -- not uncommon. Unfortunately, that resulted in an extremely costly technical foul. The Warriors have to do a much better job of keeping their cool against a WL team that will cause them all sorts of problems. ESU's Ryan Smith has to (and should) have a huge game against the much smaller Hilltopper post. This should be, perhaps, the most entertaining game of the day. Don't blink. You'll miss 12 points. ESU certainly isn't an easy assignment on Day 1. ESU can put up a big number in this game. Can it be bigger than the one WL will put up?

    West Chester vs. IUP -- Last week doesn't mean a thing. That game is long gone. Dante Lombardi won't look like Stephen Curry again this Saturday. Tim Toro won't resemble Karl Malone, either. In Round 2 West Chester sold out on Cobo Diaz. In turn, Lombardi smoked them from all over the floor. It will be a tough environment for the Rams -- likely much worse than it was this past Saturday. The KCAC at night is a daunting task for visitors. West Chester is certainly capable of winning this game. Keep that in mind.
    NDC's strategy against FSU was to take the air out of the ball. And it worked--they thumped Fairmont doing it in the conference semi's. Mercy should be even more practiced at the slow-down. I don't have any confidence that FSU will be able to speed them up. They couldn't even speed up an NDC squad that rarely plays that style but just game planned it for the FSU matchup. I'd say the Falcons are in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Bring a lot of money. LOL.

    Of all the food windows in the building I think the best one is the one that's kind of hidden (on the side of the Alumni Bar).

    Years ago they did a prime rib bar on certain nights. Perhaps they do something like that for this weekend.

    I see them having a ton of trouble enforcing this no re-entry thing. Their staff there normally doesn't even check tickets let alone enforce something like this. Of course, for the crowd that normally hangs out next door spending an extra $12 for a second ticket isn't that big of a deal.
    I agree on the food window you pointed out. Ate a burger there once this year, pretty good. The fries are really big. Might be a single order for a college kid but I’d say plan to split it with someone.

    Some years ago, maybe Steel City Sammiches was in the area across the court from the IUP bench. Whoever it was, I liked them too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Bring a lot of money. LOL.

    Of all the food windows in the building I think the best one is the one that's kind of hidden (on the side of the Alumni Bar).

    Years ago they did a prime rib bar on certain nights. Perhaps they do something like that for this weekend.

    I see them having a ton of trouble enforcing this no re-entry thing. Their staff there normally doesn't even check tickets let alone enforce something like this. Of course, for the crowd that normally hangs out next door spending an extra $12 for a second ticket isn't that big of a deal.
    Got to maximize the profit for the school. Holding ticket holders hostage is certainly a way of doing that!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Got to maximize the profit for the school. Holding ticket holders hostage is certainly a way of doing that!!
    The 'no session break' is all about money.

    If they had a break, the first two games would have 250 (or less) people. I don't know how WL will travel but ESU won't.

    Putting IUP in the third game (with all general admission) now forces the IUP crowd to arrive much earlier (and spend more on food and $9 beers).

    The ND vs VSU noon game will be an empty arena but the WL vs ESU game -- especially the second half -- should be a big crowd.

    No idea what to expect for the final game. I suspect it will be empty.

    Sunday, however, I'd suspect big crowds for both games (providing IUP is still alive).

    I have a suspicion if IUP makes the final that Tuesday night will be back to reserve seating. Notice they said Tuesday tickets will not go on sale until Monday.

    Obviously the financial disaster is for the host to go out in Round 1.

    If there is a Tuesday for IUP that place will be insane with the students all back. Big IF however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    VSU/ND - 12 p.m.

    WL/ESU - 2:30 p.m.

    IUP/WCU - 5 p.m.

    Mercyhurst/FSU - 7:30 p.m.



    Sunday - 5pm and 7pm (The IUP side of the bracket will play in the 5 p.m. game)

    Tuesday - 7pm



    So, crowd-wise, the ESU/WL game will get a crowd for at least the second half as the IUP fans start to arrive. The first and last games will be pretty empty (I assume).
    Wow. I will have to leave early! I thought I would be able to drive up that morning but now I might leave the night before. I was hoping to stay for the Sunday game if we win but now I see that won't happen. Will these games be streamed online?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoVSUTrojans View Post
    Wow. I will have to leave early! I thought I would be able to drive up that morning but now I might leave the night before. I was hoping to stay for the Sunday game if we win but now I see that won't happen. Will these games be streamed online?
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post

    The ND vs VSU noon game will be an empty arena
    Yes!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Yes
    On IUP site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoVSUTrojans View Post
    On IUP site?
    Yes but each team should have a direct link. The IUP video quality is tremendous. The announcing is done by students so keep that in mind.

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    The only difference in the schedule is that the second set of games are at 5/7:30 rather than 6/8:30. It seems like more places are moving to the 5/7:30 over the 6/8:30. The 1/8 game has always been the third game of the day. It is not clear to me why the Sunday double-header was flip-flopped other than to give the 1-seed more rest for the final (but it's not really a big advantage due to the rest day).

    The last 4/5 game is always in front of an empty crowd. The Mercy Fairmont game will be no different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden89 View Post
    The only difference in the schedule is that the second set of games are at 5/7:30 rather than 6/8:30. It seems like more places are moving to the 5/7:30 over the 6/8:30. The 1/8 game has always been the third game of the day. It is not clear to me why the Sunday double-header was flip-flopped other than to give the 1-seed more rest for the final (but it's not really a big advantage due to the rest day).

    The last 4/5 game is always in front of an empty crowd. The Mercy Fairmont game will be no different.
    Not sure if this is why they did it, but.....
    Assuming the #1 seed wins the first game on Sunday, it allows the #1 to scout the second game without any distractions since their game is over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPTrackMan View Post
    Not sure if this is why they did it, but.....
    Assuming the #1 seed wins the first game on Sunday, it allows the #1 to scout the second game without any distractions since their game is over.
    It gets the crowd in there spending money much earlier.

    The other reason is it makes sure IUP fans get the seats they want as the fans from the second game likely won't also come for the first game (at least not the start of it).

    Believe me this general admission thing took a whole lot of flack. If there is a Tuesday (involving IUP) it will be reserved seats.

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    The Atlantic Region Central page on the IUP website is now saying that the IUP half of the bracket will be the second game on Sunday.

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