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    Our Women's Basketball team makes the tournament more times than not. Now admittedly we never do anything once we make the tournament, but we still make the tournament which is pretty successful overall. Volleyball has been much better under the new coach. Wrestling used to be really good but no idea how good it currently is.

    Football has been trash and will continue to be complete trash as long as we keep the big Hawaiian as our HC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    In MEC team sports aggregate, WLU teams stand at 106 wins and 76 defeats...Aggregate winning percentages - WLU .582
    Which proves DHutchFC's point. Take away men's basketball 28-5 season and you've got 78-71.

    Hard to go down the volleyball route in the "WJU related thread".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horror Child View Post
    Which proves DHutchFC's point. Take away men's basketball 28-5 season and you've got 78-71.

    Hard to go down the volleyball route in the "WJU related thread".
    Well, if we're removing teams from the equation, I might be inclined to remove WJUs volleyball record. But I won't do that. But I note that even removing just WLUs mens basketball record from the equation we are still on the good side of .500 which is still better than WJU.

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    Boat

    My point is why are you throwing stones. No one in this conference is good in all sports. Most are avg at best. WL is great in both basketballs and avg at best in the rest. Glenville great wbb and below avg at best in the rest. Shepherd great in football and baseball and well the rest is avg. Wise bad in everything. Weslyan good in softball. State avg in everything except baseball. Jesuit well your point is made. Notre Dame is scary folks they could dominate this conference for years to come! But my point is those who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones and beggars like the MEC to fill membership cant be choosers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    In MEC team sports aggregate, WLU teams stand at 106 wins and 76 defeats...Aggregate winning percentages - WLU .582

    Don't know who you pull for, but as this is a WJU related thread, WJU stands at 74 wins and 100 losses in MEC sponsored sports. Winning % of .425

    In H-to-H matchups, WLU currently leads WJU 7 wins to 5.

    WLU has five teams that are or finished above .500 while WJU has two.

    We were talking about D&E right before your comment so if that is who you were talking about, D&E teams stand at 32 and 92 for an aggregate winning percentage of .258. They have no teams that either finished at or currently stand at .500.

    WLU Acro finished 2-4 while D&E Acro finished 1-4. WLU beat D&E in a critical mid season head to head barn burner 230.795 to 208.590.
    I am under the assumption that you pulled these numbers from this season? If so, could you go back and do the last 5 years? I think that would be a better indicator considering we are not using 1 season for each time.

    I know it is time consuming, so I thank you in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESU Warrior View Post
    I am under the assumption that you pulled these numbers from this season? If so, could you go back and do the last 5 years? I think that would be a better indicator considering we are not using 1 season for each time.

    I know it is time consuming, so I thank you in advance!
    Actually probably this season, where their softball team is a smidge over .500 as opposed to the previous 5 years where they have solid losing records.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESU Warrior View Post
    I am under the assumption that you pulled these numbers from this season? If so, could you go back and do the last 5 years? I think that would be a better indicator considering we are not using 1 season for each time.

    I know it is time consuming, so I thank you in advance!
    I like research but I don't like it THAT much!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    I like research but I don't like it THAT much!!!

    Well I did the research lol.

    Before I give the results I left out cross country, golf, track and field for each school because their results stated "3rd of 10" or 2nd place at their conference meets. Mainly those sports don't necessarily compete head to head, but with a group of teams, other than golf. I don't know why that was listed different. I did not look for results for West Liberty's women's acro team.

    Wheeling Jesuit

    Men's teams had a combined record of 337-332-20 for the past 5 years. It gives them a 49% winning percentage.

    Women's teams had a combined record of 448-297 for the past 5 years. It gives them a 60% winning percentage.

    When put together Wheeling Jesuit had a 55.5% winning percentage in their athletic department in a 5 year span.

    West Liberty

    Men's teams had a combined record of 378-248-3 for the past 5 years. It gives them a 60% winning percentage.

    Women's teams had a combined record of 348-379 for the past 5 years. It gives them a 48% winning percentage.

    When put together West Liberty had a 53.6% winning percentage in their athletic department in a 5 year span.

    *Side note. A few schedules listed either "2015-2014" or "2015" in their archives. I took the single year results FOR BOTH SCHOOLS.

    I find the results pretty accurate, although statistics can be misleading. W.J participated in 689 contests while W.L had 626. They both have 6 sports (I did not include W.J. football for obvious reasons).

    For women's. W.J. participated in 745 contests, while W.L. had 727. They too have the same amount of sports; 5.

    So my results show that Wheeling Jesuit has a slightly better athletic program over West Liberty, but like I said there were a few Olympic sports left out for win/loss purposes.

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    As someone that doesn't particularly care about women's sports, I'm fine with saying WLU men's program is clearly better than WJUs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    As someone that doesn't particularly care about women's sports, I'm fine with saying WLU men's program is clearly better than WJUs!
    Than why did you include Women's sports in your original head to head data, and softball?

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    Because I didnt feel like breaking it out. Just added it up and posted the numbers.

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    Heard from someone who would know that they’re ending sports or something to that affect Wednesday. Take with a grain of salt but this guy works for the athletic teams there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Layton View Post
    Heard from someone who would know that they’re ending sports or something to that affect Wednesday. Take with a grain of salt but this guy works for the athletic teams there.
    Considering how long it took to add football since joining the MEC, that's a pretty stunning move ... if true.
    Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by Layton View Post
    Heard from someone who would know that they’re ending sports or something to that affect Wednesday. Take with a grain of salt but this guy works for the athletic teams there.
    Heard from more than one person with direct knowledge of the situation that WJU went to the diocese for another bailout and got turned down flat. This just sounds like they're grasping at straws. If they're seriously thinking about pulling the plug on athletics, that's basically telling 2/3 of their student body to go away. In retrospect, the Danny Sancomb mess may have been the canary in the coal mine for Wheeling Jesuit as an institution, not just an athletic department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Because I didnt feel like breaking it out. Just added it up and posted the numbers.
    Well if you used their data than you actually do care. Here's the funny thing, if Horrorchild didn't bring it up, neither would have you. You would have used women's data to prove a point about their men's programs.

    I award you 0 points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    Gosh I hope thats true. I would love to see that whole place close down for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ESU Warrior View Post
    Well if you used their data than you actually do care. Here's the funny thing, if Horrorchild didn't bring it up, neither would have you. You would have used women's data to prove a point about their men's programs.

    I award you 0 points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
    I claim 4 points for myself and subtract 1 from you. That gives the game to me 4-0.

    With WJU shuttering all their athletic programs, WLU will continue to be the best men's athletic program!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by timbertopper View Post
    Heard from more than one person with direct knowledge of the situation that WJU went to the diocese for another bailout and got turned down flat. This just sounds like they're grasping at straws. If they're seriously thinking about pulling the plug on athletics, that's basically telling 2/3 of their student body to go away. In retrospect, the Danny Sancomb mess may have been the canary in the coal mine for Wheeling Jesuit as an institution, not just an athletic department.
    WLU will take a select few. Maybe one basketball player,
    some football players and a couple of wrestlers.

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    Maybe the announcement Wednesday is that West Liberty is purchasing the assets of WJU and will use the facilities as a satellite campus? West Liberty - Wheeling...WLW!

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    On the D2 football site, under "Teams", Wheeling Jesuit is not listed under the MEC. Frostburg is listed and Shepherd has been moved to the PSAC. Wise is listed with the SAC. So it appears the site is up to date. So.....I guess my question is has Wheeling Jesuit officially notified there will not be a football team this fall? I guess the site is completely up to date if they are NOT having a team this year, or if they are playing this fall they need to be added.

    http://www.d2football.com/teams/mec/c27/

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