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    Default Re: Malone Drops Football -Immediately

    Quote Originally Posted by UFOILERFAN View Post
    A couple of more schools drop football and all of a sudden we're the GNAC.
    Come on back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwfenn View Post
    Wow, is the school doing OK? Cheyney has more students and they're barely hanging on.

    It's always hard when a school drops a sport. I had a hard time following my alma mater's (New Haven) athletic programs back when they dropped the sport in 2003 (they brought it back in 2009). Hopefully the university can bring the sport back.
    I can't speak for Lake Erie, but I seem to recall that Urbana was getting by thanks in part to online programs. Then again, I might be misunderstanding the situation out there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrabs74 View Post
    I can't speak for Lake Erie, but I seem to recall that Urbana was getting by thanks in part to online programs. Then again, I might be misunderstanding the situation out there...
    They were bought by Franklin University. Urbana had big time money and accreditation problems before the buy-out. Franklin infused much needed $ into the campus and switched Urbana's accredidation to its own. Urbana is now considered a division of Franklin (which does specialize in non-traditional and online programs).

    I won't be surprised if the Urbana Blue Knights someday become the Franklin Blue Knights - Similar to how the PhillyU Rams are now the Jefferson Rams.
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    Posted in the other conference thread:

    New prediction for 2020-21 (football)

    1) Ashland
    2) UIndy
    3) Hillsdale
    4) Findlay
    5) Tiffin
    6) ODU
    7) NDC
    8) Walsh

    KyWes independent D2 and plays mostly NAIA schedule
    LEC- Logistics for going D3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhioD2 View Post
    Posted in the other conference thread:

    New prediction for 2020-21 (football)

    1) Ashland
    2) UIndy
    3) Hillsdale
    4) Findlay
    5) Tiffin
    6) ODU
    7) NDC
    8) Walsh

    KyWes independent D2 and plays mostly NAIA schedule
    LEC- Logistics for going D3?
    What would the incentive be for Ashland to join the GMAC when other teams' fans are already lamenting joining?

    And for that matter, why would Indianapolis leave the GLVC for a conference other then the GLIAC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
    What would the incentive be for Ashland to join the GMAC when other teams' fans are already lamenting joining?

    And for that matter, why would Indianapolis leave the GLVC for a conference other then the GLIAC?
    Travel cost. Playing other similar private institutions. Playing in region 1 playoff quarter. Playing in the same conference as Hillsdale and Findlay.

    I think UIndy would not join without Ashland. Not sure about other way around.

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    I don't think that Malone dropping football (but remaining for all other sports) hurts the chances of Ashland eventually joining the G-MAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
    What would the incentive be for Ashland to join the GMAC when other teams' fans are already lamenting joining?

    And for that matter, why would Indianapolis leave the GLVC for a conference other then the GLIAC?
    You can't force any school to join a league and, at this point, Ashland and Indy have little reason to leave their current conferences. That being said, the G-MAC needs to add a couple of football schools very soon. There are, at least, a couple of schools that will be looking to their future whether the G-MAC does or not.

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    Thought this would be a cover story on http://www.d2football.com/ but nothing since December 21 there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horror Child View Post
    Thought this would be a cover story on http://www.d2football.com/ but nothing since December 21 there.
    Obvious computer error on our part. If you click on news you can see all we have posted since then.

    Will fix ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UFOILERFAN View Post
    Agree, football is always the target then they make up the math to justify the decision. I'm a little surprised that Lake Erie hasn't done the same thing.
    I remember when LEC started football. It was a way of getting males to enrole at what was at that time was a small largely female college. Dropping football would be a 180 degree shift.

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    Small colleges have been adding football to increase enrollment (and paid tuition) for years now. It seems to be accepted math at this point. St. Leo just announce 2 weeks ago that they are exploring adding football "to help boost enrollment". That's what makes Malone's move a little curious. I'm having a hard time believing that they are actually going to save $1M. I'm wondering if the teams chronic lack of success is the bigger issue.

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    Mansfield dropped football after a winless season in 2006. Immediate hit to make enrollment. They've been playing sprint football since 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horror Child View Post
    Mansfield dropped football after a winless season in 2006. Immediate hit to make enrollment. They've been playing sprint football since 2008.
    Curiosity ... do they handle Sprint 'game day' like an actual football game (sell tickets, concessions, etc.?) or is it more like glorified intramural ball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Curiosity ... do they handle Sprint 'game day' like an actual football game (sell tickets, concessions, etc.?) or is it more like glorified intramural ball?
    The only difference is the maximum weight of the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBlood View Post
    Sad day.

    Also, this clearly bucks the trend where small schools are adding/maintaining football as an enrollment and tuition driver. In the press release, Malone states that dropping football will eliminate expenses of approximately $1 million annually. They don't say how much tuition/income they will lose. Per Dept of Education, Malone has 116 football players, which is approximately 10% of the school's 1135 full-time undergraduates.
    If the football team is accounting for 10 percent of your enrollment, you're in deep dookie.

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    I hadn't paid any attention to any of this and then saw a big hole in Hillsdale's schedule today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chargerblue View Post
    I hadn't paid any attention to any of this and then saw a big hole in Hillsdale's schedule today.
    SURPRISE!!!

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    This will be a very interesting move for the school. Blueblood's point about the tuition is a very valid point as is Herb Street's about the percentage. Yes the school will save roughly 1 million annually but cutting football. The problem is the school itself could be in positions to lose about $1,006,444 in tuition from players who are no longer attending the university and paying their own way, and that assumes Malone was offering the full 36 scholarship limit.

    I have been working on my Master's in sports management and this type decision has been a focus of one of my classes. The hidden costs to a school of cutting sports. Some schools have actually been adding lower cost sports in an effort to bring in students to a school. These sports are lower cost sports or sports in which the facilities already exist. For example, in the GLIAC, SVSU added men's and women's swimming and diving, NMU reinstated a men's team (to go along with the women's team), and Davenport has added a women's swim and dive team. SVSU's decision to add swimming and diving brought in an additional 50 students to the university that already had a 50 meter pool capable of hosting meets including championship meets. The scholarship limit for swimming and diving combined is 16.2, meaning 33.8 student athletes are paying their own way to attend SVSU. This amounts to roughly $303,000 in revenue to the school. I highly doubt the cost to the school is significantly higher than this if it is even higher. I could see the university actually making money as a whole (not the athletic department itself) based on having added these teams. That $303,000 in revenue is just tuition and does not include the other fees the university gets from housing and other sources related to those students attendance. NMU adding a men's team means an additional $210,000 in revenue from non-scholarship tuition. It likely did not increase expenses significantly as the school already had a women's team and thus the facilities.

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    Which private in mec gmac psac drops football or other sports in the next two years?

    The cost of football requires plenty of kids living on campus paying full price...

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