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    People given things to them they didn't earn. Lack of talent. Lack of respect and consideration for others. Everything bought and paid for. All bad things.

    Aren't you the one who said that you were hanging with Ron Thomas back in the day? I'm surprised that the campus was big enough to fit his oversized opinion of himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post
    Sounds like Quinton Maxwell is the next IUP starting QB. Let's all hope that Maxwell and his receivers aren't good to the last drop!

    Hate how Matt has to lump the one guy in with the other two actual legit D-I QB transfers (Box and Lenny). Hell, the other guy could have spent 40 seasons with the Illini and he would never have even once taken a real snap. Not a one. He was only there because of who his Daddy Warbucks was. Just seems stupid to even mention that in the article to be honest.

    Any predictions for IUP's record this season? I'll go either 8-3 or 7-4.

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    Box... He was the IUP QB that lost to the Boro in 13'??. Didnt seem like he was much better (if any) than Haslett at IUP and had the benefit of a much better running game/team to bail him out. Either way, Stockett wouldve never been the IUP QB in 40 years either.

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    Box... He was the IUP QB that lost to the Boro in 13'??.
    Correct. He got pulled briefly for Logan Weaver. That was a very expensive loss for IUP. It likely kept them out of the postseason.

    Didnt seem like he was much better (if any) than Haslett at IUP and had the benefit of a much better running game/team to bail him out.
    Much better than the other guy. A legit D-II QB who took IUP to the national semifinals in 2012 and was only about five yards away from getting them to the national title game. Okay, he probably cannot be mentioned among the storied QBs of IUP legend. But he was pretty good at what he did.

    Either way, Stockett wouldve never been the IUP QB in 40 years either.
    But he was the IUP QB in the 2014 season finale as he started against top 20 West Chester. He also had IUP in the game until the third period. He did not make horrendous turnovers to hand the game to the Rams. And it can be argued had he been given time to develop in the games earlier in the season he may have made more waves. Poorly handled situation by the coaching staff that year.

    And don't forget that the correct IUP spelling is $tockett. That's because he was money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdinboroFB View Post
    Box... He was the IUP QB that lost to the Boro in 13'??. Didnt seem like he was much better (if any) than Haslett at IUP and had the benefit of a much better running game/team to bail him out. Either way, Stockett wouldve never been the IUP QB in 40 years either.
    The team went 17-3 with Box as the starter over the 2012, 2013 seasons. In 2014, IUP - as is IUP's brand - had a good running game - but lacked a QB who could manage the game and keep the turnovers to a minimum. That was not the case in 2012 and 2013. Box did what was asked of him, Haslett not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPMonk View Post
    The team went 17-3 with Box as the starter over the 2012, 2013 seasons. In 2014, IUP - as is IUP's brand - had a good running game - but lacked a QB who could manage the game and keep the turnovers to a minimum. That was not the case in 2012 and 2013. Box did what was asked of him, Haslett not so much.

    I agree. I liked Box as a quarterback more than most people did. I thought he controlled the game very well and made the throws when he was asked to make them. Box and Terrill Barnes developed a great QB-WR connection that was fun to watch.


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    I agree. I liked Box as a quarterback more than most people did. I thought he controlled the game very well and made the throws when he was asked to make them. Box and Terrill Barnes developed a great QB-WR connection that was fun to watch.


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    Never better than in that 2012 PSAC State Game against Ship. They were fantastic that day!

    I remember being at the one 2012 August scrimmage and just being amazed at the sheer size that both QBs Mike Box and Pat Smith had about them. They were both huge dudes. They had to be IUP's biggest QBs ever surely. I remember Ken Ferguson being rather tall but I don't recall him being as bulked up as those guys.

    I wonder if Quinton Maxwell will take his Ohio jersey #7 for this fall? IUP could double up the number with DB JR Stevens like they did with Lenny and Takhi the past several seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Any predictions for IUP's record this season? I'll go either 8-3 or 7-4.

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    Like every other year the season obviously swings on that back-to-back stretch of Cal and (at) SRU.

    They will get by New Haven in the opener but should get a fight. The next two are freebies prior to (road) Mercyhurst game (which is the start of the key stretch).

    After that gauntlet, they'll be physically wore out and tired, and, as usual, will struggle up at Clarion in an ugly 21-17 win. Several years in a row now they've struggled in that 'letdown' game versus Clarion. The Golden Eagles are sky high and IUP plays like its getting a root canal.

    So, I think they split the big two. I'd say 9-1 entering that last weekend. Opponent TBD (could be at Ship or State Game).

    They have a ton of talent. Unlike last year, they enter this year likely a little embarrassed and better-motivated. Some cancer's are also gone. Morale is a dangerous thing.[/QUOTE]

    I maybe in agreement with you, of course barring a rash of injuries, but I think the key to a pretty good season is their interior DL. If the young guys (Mitchell/Dail/Fisher) can be disruptive enough to command double-team to free up LBs Amendola and Lloyd to make more plays at and behind the line of scrimmage then IUP could be 9-1 going into the season finale. Again, IF the team stays healthy in general I think the running game should dominate, which should set up big plays for McNeil, Gause and others in the passing game. But its just going to be tough beating both Cal and Slippery Rock back-to-back.

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    Not sure if this was discussed already---but there is a really nice 45 minute cutup video on youtube of Quinton Maxwell's best plays at Ohio U. I watched some of it last evening and came away rather impressed with him. Nice size. Seemed poised. Could make throws. Ran well. Seemed to have an athletic pedigree. Check it out if you want to see him in action. Should be real easy to find. I could certainly see him being a strong asset for IUP in 2019. Looks like a legit college QB.

    I also listened to an interview he did and he seemed like a very grounded and sensible young man. I think that he could very well hold the key to IUP's fortunes this coming season. He should have a decent line, some very good RBs and several good receivers at his disposal.

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    It was reported in the latest edition of IUP Magazine that former IUP LB Sean Detwiler sadly passed away last fall. He was a member of the 1990 IUP team that played for the national title against North Dakota State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post
    Not sure if this was discussed already---but there is a really nice 45 minute cutup video on youtube of Quinton Maxwell's best plays at Ohio U. I watched some of it last evening and came away rather impressed with him. Nice size. Seemed poised. Could make throws. Ran well. Seemed to have an athletic pedigree. Check it out if you want to see him in action. Should be real easy to find. I could certainly see him being a strong asset for IUP in 2019. Looks like a legit college QB.

    I also listened to an interview he did and he seemed like a very grounded and sensible young man. I think that he could very well hold the key to IUP's fortunes this coming season. He should have a decent line, some very good RBs and several good receivers at his disposal.

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    Someone post that video on this thread earlier:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2XG9_HyuPg

    He does look pretty good and can make all the throws. I think he would be a pretty good addition to the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoNuff View Post
    Someone post that video on this thread earlier:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2XG9_HyuPg

    He does look pretty good and can make all the throws. I think he would be a pretty good addition to the team.

    No doubt. When you're anointed the Day 1 starter before your first practice with the team, ... that is saying something.

    He also has a big arm and can stretch the field -- something the offense hasn't had in a couple years. At this level, with his size, he's basically a mobile TE playing QB.

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    I actually liked his ability to throw on the run. He’s mobile, but a different type of mobile.

    Something Lenny really struggled with was running to his left and throwing. Maxwell looks pretty decent at that.

    I also liked that Ohio runs a pistol offense. A lot of types of throws he’s making in and out of the pocket are comparable to what he’ll be asked to do at IUP.


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    The key for IUP is to stay healthy and avoid the noise. Tort took some chances on guys in 2017 and it paid off. It didn’t last year. Consider that as a D2 program the media doesn’t hang you out to dry like it does in a Division 1 town. I venture to guess there would’ve been a lot of talk in the press about some of the behind the scenes stuff that didn’t get reported last year if Indiana was a Division 1 town.

    Grades, discipline issues, fights/disagreements on the sidelines between players and coaches. It got noisy last year.

    If you have a good coach, a good quarterback, and a good offensive line, you have a great shot. I think there will be some questions on D, but I feel better today than I did at season’s end.

    I agree with BigIndians. I found the interview clip he was referencing. Maxwell seems like a kid that carry’s a quiet confidence. Very poised, well spoken, and has a calming demeanor. At least he comes off that way.




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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP24 View Post
    The key for IUP is to stay healthy and avoid the noise. Tort took some chances on guys in 2017 and it paid off. It didn’t last year. Consider that as a D2 program the media doesn’t hang you out to dry like it does in a Division 1 town. I venture to guess there would’ve been a lot of talk in the press about some of the behind the scenes stuff that didn’t get reported last year if Indiana was a Division 1 town.

    Grades, discipline issues, fights/disagreements on the sidelines between players and coaches. It got noisy last year.

    If you have a good coach, a good quarterback, and a good offensive line, you have a great shot. I think there will be some questions on D, but I feel better today than I did at season’s end.

    I agree with BigIndians. I found the interview clip he was referencing. Maxwell seems like a kid that carry’s a quiet confidence. Very poised, well spoken, and has a calming demeanor. At least he comes off that way.




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    You could have wrote a book on that team last season.

    Never saw a team change so much so quickly. The team that won at Ashland last year ... the same group 6 weeks later ... unbelievable change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP24 View Post
    I actually liked his ability to throw on the run. He’s mobile, but a different type of mobile.

    Something Lenny really struggled with was running to his left and throwing. Maxwell looks pretty decent at that.

    I also liked that Ohio runs a pistol offense. A lot of types of throws he’s making in and out of the pocket are comparable to what he’ll be asked to do at IUP.


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    Lenny struggled with being accurate, to be honest. If Maxwell can throw at least a little better the offense will be much better. His highlight reel suggest that he can be more accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    You could have wrote a book on that team last season.

    Never saw a team change so much so quickly. The team that won at Ashland last year ... the same group 6 weeks later ... unbelievable change.
    And just think, they were actually a couple of plays away from being in the PSAC Championship Game.

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    I think that the very interesting thing about the Maxwell transfer is that IUP is going down a road with him that they almost never have done in program history. I can go back close to 40 years with my knowledge/experience with IUP football and I can tell you that it is very rare that they take on a "one and done" transfer as their starting QB. The only one that I can recall is former Notre Dame signal caller Paul Failla back in 1998. And even then----Failla was brought aboard in January with the start of the Spring semester. I assume that he had the luxury of going through spring drills to get himself acclimated to the offense as well as his teammates. Maxwell is coming in August and will have quite a learning curve as he must be on an accelerated crash course to learn the new system and be on the same page with his offensive running mates.

    It is a tall task and quite frankly a path that IUP has not gone down before. It should be very interesting to see. The scrimmages in August should be must-see events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post
    I think that the very interesting thing about the Maxwell transfer is that IUP is going down a road with him that they almost never have done in program history. I can go back close to 40 years with my knowledge/experience with IUP football and I can tell you that it is very rare that they take on a "one and done" transfer as their starting QB. The only one that I can recall is former Notre Dame signal caller Paul Failla back in 1998. And even then----Failla was brought aboard in January with the start of the Spring semester. I assume that he had the luxury of going through spring drills to get himself acclimated to the offense as well as his teammates. Maxwell is coming in August and will have quite a learning curve as he must be on an accelerated crash course to learn the new system and be on the same page with his offensive running mates.

    It is a tall task and quite frankly a path that IUP has not gone down before. It should be very interesting to see. The scrimmages in August should be must-see events.

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    He'll likely spend the whole summer on campus. A high percentage of football and basketball players stay.

    They get a lot of work in and it's also the GPA season ... summer classes are as easy as it gets.

    Buy, you're right ... very few one-and-dones.

    Remember, too, Faila was coming off several years in minor league baseball (away from football).

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post
    I think that the very interesting thing about the Maxwell transfer is that IUP is going down a road with him that they almost never have done in program history. I can go back close to 40 years with my knowledge/experience with IUP football and I can tell you that it is very rare that they take on a "one and done" transfer as their starting QB. The only one that I can recall is former Notre Dame signal caller Paul Failla back in 1998. -
    It's not rare just at IUP.
    Off the top of my head, in the past 22 years since I've been around the PSAC, the only one-year QB transfer I can think of besides Failla is Cody Endres, at Slippery Rock. There may be others, but not many. I wouldn't count SRU's Tanner Garry even though he started just one season (2017) because he took a redshirt in 2016 while enrolled at SRU after transferring from Youngstown State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    If this team goes 7-4 ... Tort gonna be on a hot seat.

    Maybe not a legit hot seat, but this board will be bonkers.
    The IUP Angry Mob will be back in force if 7-4 happens. As of now the Angry Mob is being patient by taking a "wait and see" attitude. Having said that, funding has been attained to refurbish the Tool Shed and buy all new implements of destruction - just in case.

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