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    Hoping for a "big" maybe 500 person crowd tonight, should be a good matchup, the Vulcans are playing really well of late and the Rock seems to be finding a groove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALU_Crazies View Post
    Hoping for a "big" maybe 500 person crowd tonight, should be a good matchup, the Vulcans are playing really well of late and the Rock seems to be finding a groove.
    A nice crowd would be a pleasant surprise for these guys who are giving their all. But THE ROCK isn't worried about this game. With IUP showing up @ MFH on Saturday, they'll pick up the W and then start working toward the biggest game of the year so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALU_Crazies View Post
    Hoping for a "big" maybe 500 person crowd tonight, should be a good matchup, the Vulcans are playing really well of late and the Rock seems to be finding a groove.
    Good thing that arena seats 6,000 and takes up half of campus.

    Sorry. Couldn't resist. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Good thing that arena seats 6,000 and takes up half of campus.

    Sorry. Couldn't resist. :)

    I don't know of any CalU fans, or alumni who think we needed the new gym, the angelo dome will go down as one of the biggest wastes of money in school history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALU_Crazies View Post
    I don't know of any CalU fans, or alumni who think we needed the new gym, the angelo dome will go down as one of the biggest wastes of money in school history.
    Not entirely true. Say what you will about DR ARMENTI, he certainly saw things on a grand scale. The university on his watch had surely outgrown HAMER as a site for graduation and some other events. I still and always will prefer HH for basketball. That said if a new structure was to be built, what were the options. A larger version of STEELE ? A larger version of HAMER ? Or a venue that could suit both needs and add classroom and office space. He chose the latter and I feel that more than a few potential students and their parents have been impressed with the grandiose vision it presents at the end of 3rd St. Did he spend more than was absolutely necessary? Perhaps. But I wish they had saved what they spent on the PARKING GARAGE(is it still there?) and at least 3 buildings I could name from my days on campus that no longer exist. What they really need is a top notch promoter who can book acts that are capable of filling the space 6-12 times a year. I prefer to think of the A-DOME as underutilized rather than overbuilt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALUPA69 View Post
    Not entirely true. Say what you will about DR ARMENTI, he certainly saw things on a grand scale. The university on his watch had surely outgrown HAMER as a site for graduation and some other events. I still and always will prefer HH for basketball. That said if a new structure was to be built, what were the options. A larger version of STEELE ? A larger version of HAMER ? Or a venue that could suit both needs and add classroom and office space. He chose the latter and I feel that more than a few potential students and their parents have been impressed with the grandiose vision it presents at the end of 3rd St. Did he spend more than was absolutely necessary? Perhaps. But I wish they had saved what they spent on the PARKING GARAGE(is it still there?) and at least 3 buildings I could name from my days on campus that no longer exist. What they really need is a top notch promoter who can book acts that are capable of filling the space 6-12 times a year. I prefer to think of the A-DOME as underutilized rather than overbuilt.
    Your point about graduation is 100% spot on, since completion I have been to many graduation's at the convocation center. Many of which are still not close to capacity. To me the way in which it was built at 6000 seats, the grand high roof all make it seem much to big. IUP and the KCAC fit much better for the needs of the PSAC school. if you remove 1500 or 2000 seats at Cal you still have the room for any event you may want to put on.

    Angelo is a good man, I got to know him during my time at Cal, his ideas were spot on the economic decline in the 2000's took a toll on enrolment and at the end of the day the funds began to dry up.

    I had my family at Cal last month for "the happy elf" play put on by the theater department, ( the kids did a great job). I saw they are working on the Tech Ed building and seem to be doing a lot of other work on the "back side" of campus, those building needed a facelift and an update in machines. I am excited to see what they look like when the work is finished.

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    1. Armenti was the best thing that ever happened at CalU.
    2. We certainly had outgrown Hamer Hall.
    3. AmgeloDome needs a promoter.
    4. Old Science needs torn down.
    5. The parking garage was the biggest mistake. For god’s sake, get it fixed!
    6. I don’t think the Rock is overlooking Cal.

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    The Angelo Dome isn't getting torn down any time soon.

    Question is ... where did all the fans go?

    The men have been getting about 175 a game in there the past several years.

    Those games at Hamer used to pack the place back in the day. I was there 1-2 years ago and it was a home game for IUP ... probably a 4:1 ratio.

    That place is just so monstrous that even when Cal starts winning again and the bandwagon types come back they'll still only draw 1,000 or 1,500 max. That's still just 20 percent capacity -- and 5,000 empty chairbacks.

    It's a great facility. No doubt. I couldn't imagine what it would be like for a game with 6,000 in there. A ton of D1's would love to have it.

    But, the top-drawing school in all of D2 averages just 3,700 a game. Scary to think that would still leave 2,300 seats empty down there.

    You have to wonder what the operating expenses are just to keep the place functional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    The Angelo Dome isn't getting torn down any time soon.

    Question is ... where did all the fans go?

    The men have been getting about 175 a game in there the past several years.

    Those games at Hamer used to pack the place back in the day. I was there 1-2 years ago and it was a home game for IUP ... probably a 4:1 ratio.

    That place is just so monstrous that even when Cal starts winning again and the bandwagon types come back they'll still only draw 1,000 or 1,500 max. That's still just 20 percent capacity -- and 5,000 empty chairbacks.

    It's a great facility. No doubt. I couldn't imagine what it would be like for a game with 6,000 in there. A ton of D1's would love to have it.

    But, the top-drawing school in all of D2 averages just 3,700 a game. Scary to think that would still leave 2,300 seats empty down there.

    You have to wonder what the operating expenses are just to keep the place functional.
    I didn’t suggest the AngeloDome be torn down. I said the “New Science” building should be razed. It was built in the ‘60’s and is located on the back end of the campus. It’s a 1-story green aluminum monstrosity.
    As for the AngeloDome, it’s beautiful, it’s here, and everyone else wishes they had it. It’s filled for graduations, and whether we have only 200 fans a game, we gotta use it. Cal is proud to have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedoggie View Post
    I didn’t suggest the AngeloDome be torn down. I said the “New Science” building should be razed. It was built in the ‘60’s and is located on the back end of the campus. It’s a 1-story green aluminum monstrosity.
    As for the AngeloDome, it’s beautiful, it’s here, and everyone else wishes they had it. It’s filled for graduations, and whether we have only 200 fans a game, we gotta use it. Cal is proud to have it.
    I didn't say you said it. I just said it's not being torn down so might as well enjoy it. It can be the largest graduation arena in small college history.

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    We talked about the fan situation last night, the only answer we really had was a disconnect from young alumni. The older fans are dying off and we do not seem to have much of a 30-40yr old alumni support network coming to these games. I am 33 and I see myself as one of the very few of my generation who comes to games regularly. I don't have an answer but when you have more empty sections of seats than sections with people sitting in them its a bad situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALU_Crazies View Post
    We talked about the fan situation last night, the only answer we really had was a disconnect from young alumni. The older fans are dying off and we do not seem to have much of a 30-40yr old alumni support network coming to these games. I am 33 and I see myself as one of the very few of my generation who comes to games regularly. I don't have an answer but when you have more empty sections of seats than sections with people sitting in them its a bad situation.
    Out of curiosity, is it possible that the 30-40 year old Alumni have been forced to go elsewhere for jobs and are, thus, not ABLE to get back to games? Fayette County isn't exactly a hotbed for growth right now, so is it possible that your Alumni are simply farther away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrub View Post
    Out of curiosity, is it possible that the 30-40 year old Alumni have been forced to go elsewhere for jobs and are, thus, not ABLE to get back to games? Fayette County isn't exactly a hotbed for growth right now, so is it possible that your Alumni are simply farther away?
    this is 100% true, for myself its almost an hour each way to the games. I try and come back when I can but its not for every game because of kids, work and life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALU_Crazies View Post
    We talked about the fan situation last night, the only answer we really had was a disconnect from young alumni. The older fans are dying off and we do not seem to have much of a 30-40yr old alumni support network coming to these games. I am 33 and I see myself as one of the very few of my generation who comes to games regularly. I don't have an answer but when you have more empty sections of seats than sections with people sitting in them its a bad situation.
    It doesn't help matters much when the on-campus students would rather hit the "bars" (such as they are) in town than watch mediocre basketball ... or, for that matter, basketball on campus PERIOD.
    Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    The Angelo Dome isn't getting torn down any time soon.

    Question is ... where did all the fans go?

    The men have been getting about 175 a game in there the past several years.

    Those games at Hamer used to pack the place back in the day. I was there 1-2 years ago and it was a home game for IUP ... probably a 4:1 ratio.

    That place is just so monstrous that even when Cal starts winning again and the bandwagon types come back they'll still only draw 1,000 or 1,500 max. That's still just 20 percent capacity -- and 5,000 empty chairbacks.

    It's a great facility. No doubt. I couldn't imagine what it would be like for a game with 6,000 in there. A ton of D1's would love to have it.

    But, the top-drawing school in all of D2 averages just 3,700 a game. Scary to think that would still leave 2,300 seats empty down there.

    You have to wonder what the operating expenses are just to keep the place functional.
    We used to pack Hamer Hall for the men’s games in the nineties, and it WAS a rockin’ place! But then, they were a top tier team. When Bill Brown arrived, things were still fine for several years, but when he ran into serious health problems, things started to go downhill. He continued to coach, but it just wasn’t ever close to being the same...and the longer he stayed coaching, the further we fell. After many frustrating years, the fans finally gave up and never returned.
    I think Coach Sancomb is the right person to right the Cal (men’s) ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feedoggie View Post
    We used to pack Hamer Hall for the men’s games in the nineties, and it WAS a rockin’ place! But then, they were a top tier team. When Bill Brown arrived, things were still fine for several years, but when he ran into serious health problems, things started to go downhill. He continued to coach, but it just wasn’t ever close to being the same...and the longer he stayed coaching, the further we fell. After many frustrating years, the fans finally gave up and never returned.
    I think Coach Sancomb is the right person to right the Cal (men’s) ship.
    I know the era. I posted before ... Cal used to routinely bring 500 ... on the road to IUP. In the 90s if you didn't watch the entire women's game at IUP ... you weren't getting a seat for the men's game. That was only the case for Cal night. It was the best game of the year -- any sport.

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