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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPNation View Post
    That's a solid opener. I think it's positive for D2 football to have teams playing on opening weekend, not sitting idle.

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    Any word if IUP did a home-and-home or is this a one-and-done?

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    So much for the cupcake theory for the first game. New Haven is a good first game - not a national contender but no cupcake either. In door should be starting soon. Pitter Patter time to get at er.

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    From a Slippery Rock perspective, I'm intrigued by our opener (Thursday, Sept. 5) at Wayne State. In 2011, the Warriors appeared in the national championship game. Since then, it's been a mixed bag. In the last seven seasons, they have a cumulative record of 35-41; the low point was last year's 2-9 campaign.

    If you look closer, they weren't always blown off the field in those losses: OT loss to Saginaw; 14-point L to Tiffin; 10-point L to Northern Michigan in which they blew a fourth-quarter lead; 3-point loss to Michigan Tech. Sure, those teams weren't necessarily world-beaters last year, but Wayne State actually held a second-half lead against Ferris State before losing by 10. To me, that stands out.

    What does it all mean? Probably not much. But it's interesting to look at. And remember last year, Kentucky State had us on the ropes in the opener. We were fortunate to win that one. Hopefully we're a little better prepared this season for what should be a tougher opponent.

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    New Haven at IUP the first week of September. That's great. That's an exciting opener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRU 88 View Post
    ROCK 59 New Haven 20 and it wasn't that close


    New Haven had a ton of seniors, their QB was there for 6 years. New Haven will be retooling as well.
    If my research is accurate, I have the following:

    New Haven graduates 21 seniors to include 11 starters on offense (5), defense (5) and special team (1-placekicker)
    IUP graduates 17 seniors to include 8 starters on offense(3)/defense(4), special teams (1-punter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoNuff View Post
    If my research is accurate, I have the following:

    New Haven graduates 21 seniors to include 11 starters on offense (5), defense (5) and special team (1-placekicker)
    IUP graduates 17 seniors to include 8 starters on offense(3)/defense(4), special teams (1-punter)
    A regrouping team vs a retooling team. Still a good game. New Haven graduated their entire starting offense, oy vey. They better be pitter pattering extra hard up their in New Heaven to get ready for the opener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPMonk View Post
    A regrouping team vs a retooling team. Still a good game. New Haven graduated their entire starting offense, oy vey. They better be pitter pattering extra hard up their in New Heaven to get ready for the opener.
    I think it's two formidable, committed programs. Both are capable of "reloading". Can't begin to predict how it will play out. I think it's a game to look forward to. It's a good move for both schools to schedule this.

    It's the same pattern for IUP, though. A big out of conference game followed by Millersville and Lock Haven. One game like that is good but with two it can get you out of sync, although I look for Ville and the Haven to be improved this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dozsa2 View Post
    From a Slippery Rock perspective, I'm intrigued by our opener (Thursday, Sept. 5) at Wayne State. In 2011, the Warriors appeared in the national championship game. Since then, it's been a mixed bag. In the last seven seasons, they have a cumulative record of 35-41; the low point was last year's 2-9 campaign.

    If you look closer, they weren't always blown off the field in those losses: OT loss to Saginaw; 14-point L to Tiffin; 10-point L to Northern Michigan in which they blew a fourth-quarter lead; 3-point loss to Michigan Tech. Sure, those teams weren't necessarily world-beaters last year, but Wayne State actually held a second-half lead against Ferris State before losing by 10. To me, that stands out.

    What does it all mean? Probably not much. But it's interesting to look at. And remember last year, Kentucky State had us on the ropes in the opener. We were fortunate to win that one. Hopefully we're a little better prepared this season for what should be a tougher opponent.


    Shows you the strength of that conference. Both quality opponents for Rock and IUP. Rock has a solid defense returning. Piece together a few guys on offense and they'll be back. Work hard stay healthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockNation View Post
    Shows you the strength of that conference. Both quality opponents for Rock and IUP. Rock has a solid defense returning. Piece together a few guys on offense and they'll be back. Work hard stay healthy
    With all due respect, while I agree that you take EVERY opponent serious I just can't call Wayne State a quality opponent. Since their 2011 D-II National Championship Game their final record were the following:

    2012: 5-5
    2013: 3-8
    2014: 7-4
    2015: 6-5
    2016: 7-4
    2017: 5-6
    2018: 2-9

    But I am sure The Rock will still take them serious....quality opponent or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPNation View Post
    Nice to see the old rivalry reborn. Think I was just out of grad school the last time they played a regular season game.

    New Haven will probably be top 3 in the NE10 next year with who they have returning but they don’t currently have a QB on the roster who has thrown a pass in college. They also lost their top WR and OL as well.

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    Nice to see the old rivalry reborn. Think I was just out of grad school the last time they played a regular season game.

    New Haven will probably be top 3 in the NE10 next year with who they have returning but they don’t currently have a QB on the roster who has thrown a pass in college. They also lost their top WR and OL as well.
    As long as have money that can be fixed real quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoNuff View Post
    With all due respect, while I agree that you take EVERY opponent serious I just can't call Wayne State a quality opponent. Since their 2011 D-II National Championship Game their final record were the following:

    2012: 5-5
    2013: 3-8
    2014: 7-4
    2015: 6-5
    2016: 7-4
    2017: 5-6
    2018: 2-9

    But I am sure The Rock will still take them serious....quality opponent or not.
    I hope we do. But if we come out and fall behind 28-7 like we did against Kentucky State, I don't know that we get out of Detroit with a win. One of the things Coach Mihalik was great at was motivation in camp. Three of my years on the team, we had openers at Eastern Kentucky and Youngstown State (2). By the end of camp, I believed we would win those games. We did not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    As long as have money that can be fixed real quick.
    Well, they are closing in on completing a $100 million capital campaign, but I don’t know how much is going to athletics. The new AD is a former NFL coach (Chris Palmer), so I’m guessing there’s some pull there.

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    Clarion at Shippensburg on Sept. 7. Also, Mercyhurst will host Lake Erie to open the season.
    Cal U (Pa.) Class of 2014

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    Any word if IUP did a home-and-home or is this a one-and-done?
    No. 1 Game deal. No return trip.

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    With the addition of Shepard in the PSAC-East - most East teams will not have room for an OOC game looking at toughest 19 schedule SHIP is brutal at Rock-at Cal and also play IUP - SHIP plays the 3 toughest teams in the East

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOd2now View Post
    With the addition of Shepard in the PSAC-East - most East teams will not have room for an OOC game looking at toughest 19 schedule SHIP is brutal at Rock-at Cal and also play IUP - SHIP plays the 3 toughest teams in the East
    Week 1 is always open in the PSAC. Shepherd merely replaces what would have been Cheyney's spot.

    Week 1: Open
    Weeks 2 & 3: East vs West crossover
    Weeks 4-10: East (or West) divisional games
    Week 11: East vs West crossover (or PSAC Title Game)

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP412 View Post
    No. 1 Game deal. No return trip.

    That seems rude on our part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPNation View Post
    That seems rude on our part.
    Read Matt's recent article. Tort said home game or no game.

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