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    With the loss of Augie, and it's a big loss, what does the league do in response?

    Most logical I suppose is to find a new No. 16. Who is that?

    Morningside
    Black Hills State
    Nebraska-Kearney
    Chadron State.

    Not a lot of great options.

    Maybe this move spurs other schools to change league or division affiliation. What say you?

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    I don’t want to see the league go to 16! I wanna see it shrink!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wscsuperfan View Post
    With the loss of Augie, and it's a big loss, what does the league do in response?

    Most logical I suppose is to find a new No. 16. Who is that?

    Morningside- doesn't want to leave NAIA. Likes winning a lot.
    Black Hills State- too far away
    Nebraska-Kearney- Wayne would like it but it is a long ways away. Makes more sense that Chadron or BHS
    Chadron State.- too far away

    Not a lot of great options.

    Maybe this move spurs other schools to change league or division affiliation. What say you?
    As I said in another post, it was pointed out to me yesterday that the NCAA says a new league needs ten teams. So splitting the NSIC in two won't work unless you get other D2 teams to leave their conferences- and why would they do that? Or get NAIA or D3 teams to move up- leaving the same question.

    As you said, not a lot of great options. I'm sure that the league office has been looking into this. The fantasy of St. John's and/or St. Thomas leaving their exclusive club is highly unlikely. It may be a school coming out of nowhere who wants to take the plunge, but I don't know who that would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wscsuperfan View Post
    With the loss of Augie, and it's a big loss, what does the league do in response?

    Most logical I suppose is to find a new No. 16. Who is that?

    Morningside
    Black Hills State
    Nebraska-Kearney
    Chadron State.

    Not a lot of great options.

    Maybe this move spurs other schools to change league or division affiliation. What say you?
    Or just leave the league at 15. That would give football the opportunity to schedule a non-con game every other year.

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    Let us look back at the past to help us remember how we got here.

    2006- NAIA Mary & D3 Upper Iowa join to bring membership to 10.
    2008- NCC disbands. UMD, MSU, St. Cloud rejoin the NSIC. Augie joins for the first time
    2012- NAIA schools Minot and USF bring membership to 16.

    So- there isn't a lot of history with Augie in the NSIC- just ten years. The other three NCC schools had a long association with NSIC teams. Most people would be surprised at the football success of USF who had an immediate impact from the first year. Mary & Minot would probably both tell you that they have been disappointed so far. But has anyone heard even one word about their going back? Not me. Remember, we are mostly dealing with football and men's basketball here since that is what the majority of the posts deal with.

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    Drop UMC?

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    I don't see any viable replacements, at least at present, for Augustana. I'm fine with just continuing with 15, if it has to be. I believe it would be unfair to UMC to ask them to leave. They have had some moderate success in sports other than football recently. Also, they have limited or no options as to a conference affiliation if they were to leave the NSIC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MStateMaverick View Post
    I don't see any viable replacements, at least at present, for Augustana. I'm fine with just continuing with 15, if it has to be. I believe it would be unfair to UMC to ask them to leave. They have had some moderate success in sports other than football recently. Also, they have limited or no options as to a conference affiliation if they were to leave the NSIC.
    True points.

    Just purely speculative on my end, certainly no ill-will towards them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MStateMaverick View Post
    I don't see any viable replacements, at least at present, for Augustana. I'm fine with just continuing with 15, if it has to be. I believe it would be unfair to UMC to ask them to leave. They have had some moderate success in sports other than football recently. Also, they have limited or no options as to a conference affiliation if they were to leave the NSIC.
    Many years ago many big 10 and media fans wanted Northwestern out of the league for lack of performance. Eventually they got athletics rolling and look at them now. UMC is a member in good standing. There will always be a last place school in every league. If you pick the low hanging fruit off the tree, your school might be the next low hanging fruit. Alright my fruit analogy is strange, but you get the picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingfaithful View Post
    Many years ago many big 10 and media fans wanted Northwestern out of the league for lack of performance. Eventually they got athletics rolling and look at them now. UMC is a member in good standing. There will always be a last place school in every league. If you pick the low hanging fruit off the tree, your school might be the next low hanging fruit. Alright my fruit analogy is strange, but you get the picture.
    I like fruit.

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    Minot, Mary and Crookston to the North Star. Problem solved :)

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    I don’t think it will happen because I think Upper Iowa likes being associated with a more prestigious conference, but I could see them in the GLVC. I think they would have more success in that conference and the travel distance is about the same except without having teams in a close distance.

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    I don't imagine they would do it, but has there ever been any discussion of any of the D3 Wisconsin schools moving up to D2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I don't imagine they would do it, but has there ever been any discussion of any of the D3 Wisconsin schools moving up to D2?
    Convince UW-Superior to get their football program back! Then, they hire Arnold to be the strength and conditioning coach. They'd dominate the conference!

    Nah, it's fun to think about but I doubt it would ever happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I don't imagine they would do it, but has there ever been any discussion of any of the D3 Wisconsin schools moving up to D2?
    The Wisconsin legislature would not be friendly to having one or even two teams start scholarship football. If anyone would start higher than D3 it would be Green Bay or Milwaukee to FCS. I don't think Marquette has any interest.

    The Badgers are a monopoly, even more so than the Gophers or Cornhuskers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twincitiesmav View Post
    I don’t want to see the league go to 16! I wanna see it shrink!
    Then let the league split up into two: the Minnesota schools plus Upper Iowa in one league and the Dakota/Nebraska schools (with a couple of teams plucked from the RMAC - Black Hills, SD Mines and Chadron) in the other.

    Barring that, I don't know what other options might be out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrabs74 View Post
    Then let the league split up into two: the Minnesota schools plus Upper Iowa in one league and the Dakota/Nebraska schools (with a couple of teams plucked from the RMAC - Black Hills, SD Mines and Chadron) in the other.

    Barring that, I don't know what other options might be out there.
    I've been saying this exact thing for years!!!!!!! It makes sense size wise and allows for ooc games.


    Referring to the UIU poster, I personally don't want them to leave but if UIU leaves it could help too. Though I'd much rather prefer UMC to be given walking papers which would likely force them to drop to D3 where it belongs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I don't imagine they would do it, but has there ever been any discussion of any of the D3 Wisconsin schools moving up to D2?
    What about UW Parkside??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrabs74 View Post
    Then let the league split up into two: the Minnesota schools plus Upper Iowa in one league and the Dakota/Nebraska schools (with a couple of teams plucked from the RMAC - Black Hills, SD Mines and Chadron) in the other.

    Barring that, I don't know what other options might be out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NSU4LIFE View Post
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    You would be quite dominant for some time imo

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