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    Quote Originally Posted by UNALions View Post
    Eagerly awaiting the answer to this. GSC fans have some thoughts on this.
    Yeah, you may be waiting for quite a while. I all hear are crickets!!!

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    Since Fred's team has never seen December before maybe he only bought internet access through November?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNALions View Post
    Eagerly awaiting the answer to this. GSC fans have some thoughts on this.
    I know for GAC driving and travel distances were a big deal. We didn't originally have the exact number of teams. OK Baptist came in last to make that happen. UA Fort Smith also wanted in, but the GAC Committee wanted everyone to be a football school as well. Such a shame. UA Fort Smith would have helped the conference in Basketball and Baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulerider View Post
    I know for GAC driving and travel distances were a big deal. We didn't originally have the exact number of teams. OK Baptist came in last to make that happen. UA Fort Smith also wanted in, but the GAC Committee wanted everyone to be a football school as well. Such a shame. UA Fort Smith would have helped the conference in Basketball and Baseball.
    Yes, proximity was part of the equation, but not all. And, UAFS wasn’t the only school that has been snubbed by the GAC. I can give a clue and that is equal footing.

    My brother did ROTC at Mulerider U! Hahahahaha. Bill Clinton shook his hand at one of the ceremonies.
    Last edited by Techster88; 12-04-2018 at 08:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallst View Post
    Since Fred's team has never seen December before maybe he only bought internet access through November?
    Wait a minute!! When did they get internet access? Oh my bad, satellite. Every hillbilly I know graduated from the CB radio to the two way long range radio to satellite.

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    The schools of the old OIC and the AIC have had a long history of playing each other. (Nsu played 3or4 a year) Most of schools were if equalivant size and support.
    When AIC broke up in mid 90s and followed uca into D2 OIC followed. Because there was just no big schools left in naia and they still had 2divisions. Nsu went ncaa first after winning it's title in 94 ecu and
    rest went soon after.
    They all joined lsc with ouchita Baptist and Harding to make lsc north and only had 3 football cross overs. But it was long before gsc pulled obu and hu. Lsc now has north doing 4crossovers while south did only 3. Eventually they put tamuc and then enmu in North. Now I don't know about rest but nsu was getting killed by travel to south. It's a haul from tahlequah to enmu, Angelo,Kingsville, and Amarillo.

    There had been talk for a while for a ok and ark conference. Lsc was uping dues so whether nsu and uco went or the GAC met first I don't know 100%( been a point of discussion between me and someone else). But all the north was out quick.

    Nsu is just as close to most miaa as the lsc.

    Now from my source in ark the travel is better for some in GAC and not others. But from my perspective life in GAC is better for ark school. They came in stronger and it shows in their dominance in most sports.

    GAC started with 9. They went silo after miaa did. Not sure why. From my source the gsc were very generous in thier offers for non conf games for those first few years in getting games scheduled. I thought they were going to split into divisions but never did. My source said it would take 14 schools to make that an economic advantage.

    But imo both gsc and lsc didn't do as well for a few years after the schools left.
    Last edited by the Northeasterner; 12-04-2018 at 09:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Northeasterner View Post
    The schools of the old OIC and the AIC have had a long history of playing each other. (Nsu played 3or4 a year) Most of schools were if equalivant size and support.
    When AIC broke up in mid 90s and followed uca into D2 OIC followed. Because there was just no big schools left in naia and they still had 2divisions. Nsu went ncaa first after winning it's title in 94 ecu and
    rest went soon after.
    They all joined lsc with ouchita Baptist and Harding to make lsc north and only had 3 football cross overs. But it was long before gsc pulled obu and hu. Lsc now has north doing 4crossovers while south did only 3. Eventually they put tamuc and then enmu in North. Now I don't know about rest but nsu was getting killed by travel to south. It's a haul from tahlequah to enmu, Angelo,Kingsville, and Amarillo.

    There had been talk for a while for a ok and ark conference. Lsc was uping dues so whether nsu and uco went or the GAC met first I don't know 100%( been a point of discussion between me and someone else). But all the north was out quick.

    Nsu is just as close to most miaa as the lsc.

    Now from my source in ark the travel is better for some in GAC and not others. But from my perspective life in GAC is better for ark school. They came in stronger and it shows in their dominance in most sports.

    GAC started with 9. They went silo after miaa did. Not sure why. From my source the gsc were very generous in thier offers for non conf games for those first few years in getting games scheduled. I thought they were going to split into divisions but never did. My source said it would take 14 schools to make that an economic advantage.

    But imo both gsc and lsc didn't do as well for a few years after the schools left.
    Yes, the mass departure of schools hurt the LSC and the GSC. No doubt.

    You still have missed one of the main reasons.

    Plus, since it’s no secret that NSU wants out of the MIAA. Or at least that’s what I’ve heard since 2014. Why hasn’t GAC opened the door for them?

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    Here is what I know and some opinion.

    1. I am not sure nsu admin wanted out of miaa. But I know some boosters do. (And now that Rogers is in I don't see nsu bailing and leaving higher conf and leaving Rogers in) I think that meeting was to get funds to up commitment to athletics and it turned to area they didn't like and haven't revisted a meeting since. But I wasn't at meeting so it's a bit if speculation on my part

    2. No women's volleyball. It's a "core sport" according to Gac rules. Nsu would have to add it and drop something else like it's women soccer or women's tennis.

    3 loss of uco rivalry. Trust me it matters to people and uco is not going to be in same conf as other regional schools if the leave miaa it would be to go up a division.

    4. Nsu would need a partner school that plays football and it's not uco. Now if moso would jump you could see it happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Techster88 View Post
    Yes, the mass departure of schools hurt the LSC and the GSC. No doubt.

    You still have missed one of the main reasons.

    Plus, since it’s no secret that NSU wants out of the MIAA. Or at least that’s what I’ve heard since 2014. Why hasn’t GAC opened the door for them?
    With the current GAC having 12 teams already how do recommend it work? Two divisions (North: Harding, Ouachita, Henderson State, UAM, SAU, Tech, NSU and South: SEOSU, ECOSU, OK Baptist, Nazarene, NWOSU, SWOSU, UCO)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldBison View Post
    With the current GAC having 12 teams already how do recommend it work? Two divisions (North: Harding, Ouachita, Henderson State, UAM, SAU, Tech, NSU and South: SEOSU, ECOSU, OK Baptist, Nazarene, NWOSU, SWOSU, UCO)?
    I said North and South. It probably should be East (Ark schools plus NSU) and West (Okla schools).

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