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    Default Region 3 playoff match up predictions

    If NCAA has a spine
    1. Ouachita
    2. Ferris
    3. GVSU
    4. Indy
    5.Ft. Hays
    6. NW MO St.
    7. Harding

    1. Ouachita bye

    7. Harding at 2. Ferris
    6. NW MO St. at 3. GVSU
    5. Ft. Hays at 4. Indy

    But more than likely
    1. Ferris
    2. Ouachita
    3.GVSU
    4. Indy
    5. Ft. Hays
    6. NW MO St.
    7. Harding

    1. Ferris bye

    7. Harding at 2. Ouachita *rematch*
    6. NW MO St. at 3. GVSU
    5. Ft. Hays at 4. Indy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finishempty Fred View Post
    If NCAA has a spine
    1. Ouachita
    2. Ferris
    3. GVSU
    4. Indy
    5.Ft. Hays
    6. NW MO St.
    7. Harding

    1. Ouachita bye

    7. Harding at 2. Ferris
    6. NW MO St. at 3. GVSU
    5. Ft. Hays at 4. Indy

    But more than likely
    1. Ferris
    2. Ouachita
    3.GVSU
    4. Indy
    5. Ft. Hays
    6. NW MO St.
    7. Harding

    1. Ferris bye

    7. Harding at 2. Ouachita *rematch*
    6. NW MO St. at 3. GVSU
    5. Ft. Hays at 4. Indy
    OR....if the NCAA enforces their own rules Ferris drops to the last spot of the region rankings and doesn't make the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IH8SVSU View Post
    OR....if the NCAA enforces their own rules Ferris drops to the last spot of the region rankings and doesn't make the playoffs.
    Tomorrow will certainly be interesting for sure!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IH8SVSU View Post
    OR....if the NCAA enforces their own rules Ferris drops to the last spot of the region rankings and doesn't make the playoffs.
    If they follow their own rules, Ferris is still in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Carlson View Post
    If they follow their own rules, Ferris is still in.
    If 4 wins are vacated won't that mean they did not play enough games to be eligible for the playoffs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finishempty Fred View Post
    Tomorrow will certainly be interesting for sure!!
    Indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IH8SVSU View Post
    If 4 wins are vacated won't that mean they did not play enough games to be eligible for the playoffs?
    They played the games. It’s a mathematical penalty that will reduce their win pct by .092. They’ll basically be 10-1 after the penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Carlson View Post
    They played the games. It’s a mathematical penalty that will reduce their win pct by .092. They’ll basically be 10-1 after the penalty.
    Agreed.

    Ferris will still be in the post-season. The question becomes are they the #1 seed or the #2 seed.

    Based on what I could quickly find,

    Ferris' opponents this season were a combined (excluding the loss vs Ferris and non-D2 games) 50-54, for an opponents winning percentage of 48.1%

    Ouachita Baptist's opponents were 55-55 against other opponents (they only play conference games).

    Ouachita actually has the advantage over Ferris in the opponents winning percentage category.

    The OOWP for OBU is also 50% due to the scheduled conference only games.

    The OOWP for the GLIAC schools is more difficult to calculate. I am not going to try figuring it out, but I think the GLIAC's up and down performance against other conferences (overall 11-7 excluding Ferris' games) doesn't due enough to help Ferris jump OBU.


    Where things get interesting is with Missouri S&T vs Harding vs Southern Arkansas for the final spot Missouri S&T has the best record of the three schools, but overall the GLVC was very weak outside the conference. Does the 1 loss overcome 2 losses by Harding and 3 losses by S. Arkansas? This question is important because if Missouri S&T does not jump S. Arkansas, then what does the committee do with the S. Arkansas head to head win over Harding?

    I do think the S. Arkansas loss drops them behind Harding, which gets Harding in as the #7 seed.



    Therefore my prediction for the regional seeds is as follows:

    1) OBU

    2) Ferris St (this is without dealing with possible nullification).

    3) GVSU

    4) Indy

    5) Ft. Hays St

    6) NWMSU

    7) Harding


    Even if the NCAA invokes the nullification penalty, I don't see Ferris dropping below the #2 seed. They would drop in winning percentage, but would stay ahead of GVSU based on the fact they won head to head. They should also stay ahead of Indy due to the fact they would still have a much higher OWP and OOWP than Indy would. I can't see them dropping behind a 2 loss team even with the nullification penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finishempty Fred View Post
    If NCAA has a spine
    1. Ouachita
    2. Ferris
    3. GVSU
    4. Indy
    5.Ft. Hays
    6. NW MO St.
    7. Harding

    1. Ouachita bye

    7. Harding at 2. Ferris
    6. NW MO St. at 3. GVSU
    5. Ft. Hays at 4. Indy

    But more than likely
    1. Ferris
    2. Ouachita
    3.GVSU
    4. Indy
    5. Ft. Hays
    6. NW MO St.
    7. Harding

    1. Ferris bye

    7. Harding at 2. Ouachita *rematch*
    6. NW MO St. at 3. GVSU
    5. Ft. Hays at 4. Indy
    The SPINE will be taken out of OBU if you ever play Ferris - Stop crying about your ranking - try and win the next game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSUBulldog27 View Post
    The SPINE will be taken out of OBU if you ever play Ferris - Stop crying about your ranking - try and win the next game.
    Am I allowed to talk about Ferris then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSUBulldog27 View Post
    The SPINE will be taken out of OBU if you ever play Ferris - Stop crying about your ranking - try and win the next game.
    He has a point Fred. I hear once playoffs start Ferris is bringing back Seiler, Vander Laan, Okoye and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSUBulldog27 View Post
    The SPINE will be taken out of OBU if you ever play Ferris - Stop crying about your ranking - try and win the next game.
    I'd like to see FSU beat the piss out of OBU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IH8SVSU View Post
    I'd like to see FSU beat the piss out of OBU.
    Me, I just wanna see GVSU make a run. NWMSU at Allendale sounds like a great start to the playoffs to me. Still mad about the screwjob we got in 2007. Then the winner of Fort Hays State-Indy, then hopefully Ferris State. Giggity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmrg74 View Post
    Me, I just wanna see GVSU make a run. NWMSU at Allendale sounds like a great start to the playoffs to me. Still mad about the screwjob we got in 2007. Then the winner of Fort Hays State-Indy, then hopefully Ferris State. Giggity.
    Ferris and GVSU would most likely be in the second round if it happens. The Fort Hays/Indy winner would play #1 seed OBU (which I'm pretty sure is going to happen based on the numbers).

    I am pumped to potentially get NWMS at home, though. That's going to be a blast, win or lose.

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    We were talking about the possible GV v NW match up yesterday at Warrensburg. Fly into either Midway or Detroit, rent a car and drive the remaining distance. Unless some rich GV alum would send a personal jet to St Joe to pick us up and fly us into Allendale?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW Normal View Post
    We were talking about the possible GV v NW match up yesterday at Warrensburg. Fly into either Midway or Detroit, rent a car and drive the remaining distance. Unless some rich GV alum would send a personal jet to St Joe to pick us up and fly us into Allendale?
    Fly in to Allendale....hahahahahahahaha. Unless you're gonna land in a corn field somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW Normal View Post
    We were talking about the possible GV v NW match up yesterday at Warrensburg. Fly into either Midway or Detroit, rent a car and drive the remaining distance. Unless some rich GV alum would send a personal jet to St Joe to pick us up and fly us into Allendale?
    Klee will pick you up in his private chopper. I've got ample parking in my back 40 acres. Klee, there is plenty of room to land the Klee chopper then you can get the Klee mobile out of the Klee cave and drive these fine folks from my place to THE Grand Valley State University for the game. Who says GV fans are not hospitable?!?! :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by NW Normal View Post
    We were talking about the possible GV v NW match up yesterday at Warrensburg. Fly into either Midway or Detroit, rent a car and drive the remaining distance. Unless some rich GV alum would send a personal jet to St Joe to pick us up and fly us into Allendale?
    In all seriousness though your better bet may be to find a flight into Grand Rapids. Much closer to Allendale than Chi-town or the dirty D.

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    Default Re: Region 3 playoff match up predictions

    Detroit is about a 2.5 hour drive to Allendale while Chicago is a 3+ hour drive and an hour time change - fly into Detroit or Grand Rapids, that's what I do

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    Confirmed that Ouachita is number 1 seed in region 3

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