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    A fitting end to a miserable season. Wayne State couldn't win a game at home on senior day against a team with no GLIAC wins. To be fair NMU outplayed the hapless Tartars and deserved to win. Wayne State definitely deserves to be in last place in the conference. They don't play with any pride or passion.

    BTW, I didn't see Zezula's name on the list of seniors.

    Winters record to date since 2011, 35-40.
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    They will be ready when they come to Lubbers next weekend though - we know that - always hard hitting Tartars

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    Yeah, today was as it often is with Wayne State; a tale of two halves... WSU all over the Wildcats in the first half, then poof, the Warriors just dropped out in the second half. And the last series of events was all the worse. WSU down by 3, and driving to the NMU 30 yard line with under a minute, but instead of getting a field goal or even a touchdown, they throw a pick 6, and lose by 10. You can’t make this stuff up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDRussell View Post
    Yeah, today was as it often is with Wayne State; a tale of two halves... WSU all over the Wildcats in the first half, then poof, the Warriors just dropped out in the second half. And the last series of events was all the worse. WSU down by 3, and driving to the NMU 30 yard line with under a minute, but instead of getting a field goal or even a touchdown, they throw a pick 6, and lose by 10. You can’t make this stuff up...
    not good...well just don't get all fired up and playing like you should next week - we need a high seed in the playoffs and losing to you will not help that

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    Anything can happen when two teams battle for the highly coveted Wooden Shoes Trophy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneStatesman View Post
    Anything can happen when two teams battle for the highly coveted Wooden Shoes Trophy!
    WSU probably going to have the advantage right from the start with a mainly rushing attack. Looks like snow showers are in the forecast.

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    I am still sickened by last Saturdays loss. Can't even think about this week and wooden shoes'

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    Quote Originally Posted by WayneStatesman View Post
    A fitting end to a miserable season. Wayne State couldn't win a game at home on senior day against a team with no GLIAC wins. To be fair NMU outplayed the hapless Tartars and deserved to win. Wayne State definitely deserves to be in last place in the conference. They don't play with any pride or passion.

    BTW, I didn't see Zezula's name on the list of seniors.

    Winters record to date since 2011, 35-40.
    Too bad he did not finish out the season, good kid, real nice family but another example of a Wayne State Quarterback who never progressed from his high school days. When is this going to change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman View Post
    I am still sickened by last Saturdays loss. Can't even think about this week and wooden shoes'

    Yeah.... I'm still reeling from that last 1:00 of NMU game; let's call it Wayne State football follies. Northern Michigan was ripe for the picking, and we shot ourselves in the foot again. Wildcats in the UP will be laughing and high-fiving all week at that pick 6 and big win, while we are frowning and scratching our heads.

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    I don't know what Amrhein was looking at on that last play. I don't think there was a Warrior within 10 yards of where he threw that pass. After starting almost every game this season I would have expected Amrhein to make better decisions. We coulda and shoulda won that game but that's how this season has gone...lots of mistakes and missed opportunities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDRussell View Post
    Yeah.... I'm still reeling from that last 1:00 of NMU game; let's call it Wayne State football follies. Northern Michigan was ripe for the picking, and we shot ourselves in the foot again. Wildcats in the UP will be laughing and high-fiving all week at that pick 6 and big win, while we are frowning and scratching our heads.

    https://www.uppermichiganssource.com...499518031.html
    And could someone tell me who was in the backfield with Amrhein on the last play of the first half when from the 1 he just ran right towards a NM defender at the goal line and was knocked back three yards. Charron, our 99% of the time blocking fullback was on the sidelines and had played the prior play. What happened. Did we not have a time out left? There was not a blocker for Amrhein within 7 yards and he is not known for his running ability. Both of these plays were game changers in my opinion.

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    This latest loss is as bad as it gets....WSU is in LAST place in the conference, LAST. Wow. Can this program please begin taking accountability and accept the fact that we are simply a bad team? Also Sandman, pretty sure that was Charron in, think he missed the block on the safety who stuck Amrhein on the goal-line. Something has to change guys, wonder what your opinion on what that change should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewEraWarrior View Post
    This latest loss is as bad as it gets....WSU is in LAST place in the conference, LAST. Wow. Can this program please begin taking accountability and accept the fact that we are simply a bad team? Also Sandman, pretty sure that was Charron in, think he missed the block on the safety who stuck Amrhein on the goal-line. Something has to change guys, wonder what your opinion on what that change should be.
    You are right its as bad as it gets. Last in the conference. You may be right on Charron being in, but whoever it was didn't miss a block, he went towards the tackle inside and left the outside defender standing alone and Amrhein ran directly towards the defender who was probably as surprised as anybody. Tried to review the play on sidearm but couldn't get it to work. We have some great talent on this team, the oft injured Deontae Nicholas, two excellent safeties, Scott Toth and true freshman Tieler Houston, running back James Hill, Darece Roberson WR, Anthony Pittman and Leon Eggleston LB's, and a decent OL of Richardson, Helms, Younger, Potter, and Tochstein. All will be be back next year except Helms, Richardson, and Pittman. Some good talent is there, but something needs to be added and plenty of it to turn this around. Wonder what the President of the University thinks. He and his wife are at most of the games. People were donating big money when we were playing well and bringing national attention to a large nationwide alumni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KleShreen View Post
    WSU probably going to have the advantage right from the start with a mainly rushing attack. Looks like snow showers are in the forecast.
    You are being sarcastic no? The only advantage WSU will have is .... wait, they won't have any. Oh wait, GV's long snapper got nicked up last week and maybe he can't play Saturday (no data though.) So yeah, maybe WSU has the advantage at long snapper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwing View Post
    You are being sarcastic no? The only advantage WSU will have is .... wait, they won't have any. Oh wait, GV's long snapper got nicked up last week and maybe he can't play Saturday (no data though.) So yeah, maybe WSU has the advantage at long snapper.
    I mean, their offense is built around the running game, which markedly has an advantage in bad weather. GV's offense is built off 50/50 balls deep down field, which marked have a disadvantage in bad weather. Additionally, when we do run, it is almost exclusively out of shotgun and relying on cuts rather than downhill. Again, a disadvantage.

    I'm confident GV will have the talent to win regardless, but if the weather is bad, I could see a scenario where things are a lot closer than they should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KleShreen View Post
    I mean, their offense is built around the running game, which markedly has an advantage in bad weather. GV's offense is built off 50/50 balls deep down field, which marked have a disadvantage in bad weather. Additionally, when we do run, it is almost exclusively out of shotgun and relying on cuts rather than downhill. Again, a disadvantage.

    I'm confident GV will have the talent to win regardless, but if the weather is bad, I could see a scenario where things are a lot closer than they should be.
    So you are saying that the Wayne running game is better than GVs? Call me a homer, but no. I'll take the Lakers' running game every day VS Wayne's. I don't have the stats and frankly, the way both teams play, IMO, the stats won't matter.

    I wonder what the Wayne contingent thinks about the matchup.. I guess that should be for another thread.

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    Wayne State is the best snow/hail team in North America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwing View Post
    So you are saying that the Wayne running game is better than GVs? Call me a homer, but no. I'll take the Lakers' running game every day VS Wayne's. I don't have the stats and frankly, the way both teams play, IMO, the stats won't matter.

    I wonder what the Wayne contingent thinks about the matchup.. I guess that should be for another thread.
    I didn't say that, either.

    I'm saying that *if* weather is a factor, Wayne's default offense is built more to handle it than GV's is in terms of style of play. They are a downhill running team, straight in to the line, not impacted by things like the field being slick. GV's running game is based on speed and cuts. Things that would be impacted more if the field were slick.

    It is just forecast for cold and flurries. So it isn't going to be a factor in the end.

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    Nice hedge Kle.....

    "WSU probably going to have the advantage right from the start with a mainly rushing attack."

    The only thing I see is "probably." Keep adding any qualifier that you desire. I'll still take GV's running attack every day, any condition, over WSU's. Tell me a back at Wayne that is better than Moss or Jack? Hell, I might even put Buck in the mix, but I haven't seen much of Wayne's crew. Now maybe our Oline is vulnerable... I'll still take that over WSU's, any condition.

    But we'll never know for sure until it's played.. and played with the qualifiers I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwing View Post
    Nice hedge Kle.....

    "WSU probably going to have the advantage right from the start with a mainly rushing attack."

    The only thing I see is "probably." Keep adding any qualifier that you desire. I'll still take GV's running attack every day, any condition, over WSU's. Tell me a back at Wayne that is better than Moss or Jack? Hell, I might even put Buck in the mix, but I haven't seen much of Wayne's crew. Now maybe our Oline is vulnerable... I'll still take that over WSU's, any condition.

    But we'll never know for sure until it's played.. and played with the qualifiers I suppose.
    So would I. I don't understand where the disconnect is. Guess I didn't relay things correctly. GV's offense would be impacted more by bad weather than WSU's offense. That doesn't mean it would make GV worse than WSU. It just means they would probably be impacted more. Have to change their style from the norm. WSU would not have to change anything. That doesn't mean they would be better. Just that they would have an advantage in not having to change anything like GV would.
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