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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    But imagine if SRU's Till lead mercenaries had not revolted. They probably would have won 6 more games last year and would have been comfortably in the NCAA tourney and KR would be building another team this year with a good shot at going back to the tourney again.
    Not a doubt in my mind KR would have had that team in the dance last year.

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    Not a doubt in my mind KR would have had that team in the dance last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Not a doubt in my mind KR would have had that team in the dance last year.
    Yea...good chance this year too. But at least they got rid of "evil" KR! I'm sure Mich and the boys slept peacefully in March knowing that they had were responsible for getting tid of the devil! Moral victories are GREAT arent they??

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    Yea...good chance this year too. But at least they got rid of "evil" KR! I'm sure Mich and the boys slept peacefully in March knowing that they had were responsible for getting tid of the devil! Moral victories are GREAT arent they??
    We'll see. They had given KR more money than normal for last season. That was a good roster for the most part. Deep.

    That said, KR recruited it and his players typically were 'here today and gone tomorrow'.

    I'm very interested to see who is staying. But, their whole season comes down to Till. He got exposed a bit last year. Teams learned you have to really push the pace on him and he tires out quickly. Fall in to their slow trap and it's trouble. In a slow game he's a terror.

    The game at the KCAC last year IUP could have won by 50 instead of 30. Joe showed mercy.

    I expect SRU to be their normal type team. They'll win 17-19 games and pull an upset along the way ... probably win a conference tournament game and that's about it. I've heard Grady won't have the budget this year that KR had last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALUPA69 View Post
    If you recall even as great a coach as BOBBY KNIGHT wore out his welcome eventually. Some of these coaches get away with so much they begin to believe they can't be touched. Obviously not the case.
    Agreed. The drill sargent types have a shelf life which gets shorter as the years go by and kids get more entitled. Bobby Knight had the luxury of everybody at Indiana being terrified of him. He wouldn’t have lasted half as long in today’s climate no matter how much he won.

    KR had a good run at SRU, he’s a good coach. But if he doesn’t tweek his style a bit, he won’t last as long at his next job(s).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSACfan1 View Post
    .... I still feel like Grady and SRU could have made a better hire for an assistant. I'm just surprised that they didn't opt for a coach who could help Grady with his early development as "the man"
    I think Grady’s development occurred when working under KR. He had a very good technician to follow. He certainty doesn’t have the personality to lose the team like KR did. Will he recruit the right kids and have what it takes on the final sales pitch when it’s between SRU and one other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPTrackMan View Post
    I think Grady’s development occurred when working under KR. He had a very good technician to follow. He certainty doesn’t have the personality to lose the team like KR did. Will he recruit the right kids and have what it takes on the final sales pitch when it’s between SRU and one other?
    He could have hired Big Al from Clarion. He's probably looking for a job now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSACwatcher View Post
    Marcess Williams was making 54k. Al was making 58k as his ass't.

    The union contract has minimum salaries for head and ass't coaches. https://www.passhe.edu/inside/HR/LR/...oaches_agr.pdf The minimum salary for a head coach is 40k. Minimum salary for an ass't coach is 35k. Negotiated % increases kick in thereafter. Marcess salary of 54k is above the minimum salary for a head coach.

    No idea why Clarion paid Marcess 54k except possibly that they negotiated and he wanted the job.
    After it all went down in Clarion, Coach Al told me he hoped to surface down south. He doesn’t want to spend another winter frozen half to death. Although he wasn’t sure he would be coaching at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Most D2 assistants make like $25,000 a year. Not easy to hire good ones (or keep them).
    Quote Originally Posted by IUPTrackMan View Post
    After it all went down in Clarion, Coach Al told me he hoped to surface down south. He doesn’t want to spend another winter frozen half to death. Although he wasn’t sure he would be coaching at all.
    Al should have left after Righter stepped away.. With regards to SRU, Grady prob wouldn't learn from Al. Al is a great guy and he can recruit the Detroit and NY areas but Al's been a lifetime assistant and Grady would need help with how to build a program out and become a formidable PSAC West HC... I don't he does that with Al or Valerino at this stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSACfan1 View Post
    Al should have left after Righter stepped away.. With regards to SRU, Grady prob wouldn't learn from Al. Al is a great guy and he can recruit the Detroit and NY areas but Al's been a lifetime assistant and Grady would need help with how to build a program out and become a formidable PSAC West HC... I don't he does that with Al or Valerino at this stage.
    Seems like he has experience sitting at the right hand of a coach that did just that...Unfortuanatly, what he learned from KR is not what the current administration is looking for.

    Funny when a school "fire" a HC and replaces him with a long time assistant how that new HC's on-line bio trumpets the success of the program under the just fired HC. Here's part of Grady's official SRU bio:

    Grady helped guide Slippery Rock to a stellar 167-101 (.623) record over his first nine years on the staff, which included eight winning seasons, five 20-win seasons, seven trips to the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference Tournament and three NCAA Tournament berths.

    Grady was on the sidelines for two of the best teams in program history. First, the 2012-13 squad that matched a program record with 23 wins en route to the second round of the NCAA Tournament and then in 2014-15, when SRU once again advanced to the second round of the NCAA Tournament before ending the season with an overall record of 21-11.

    On his watch, 15 Rock players have received All-PSAC West honors including 2012-13 PSAC West Defensive Player of the Year Luiz Santos and eventual All-Americans Micah Till, Maron Brown and Devin Taylor.

    If these superlatives are what makes Grady such a good option as your HC, why exactly did you fire KR??

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Seems like he has experience sitting at the right hand of a coach that did just that...Unfortuanatly, what he learned from KR is not what the current administration is looking for.

    Funny when a school "fire" a HC and replaces him with a long time assistant how that new HC's on-line bio trumpets the success of the program under the just fired HC. Here's part of Grady's official SRU bio:

    Grady helped guide Slippery Rock to a stellar 167-101 (.623) record over his first nine years on the staff, which included eight winning seasons, five 20-win seasons, seven trips to the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference Tournament and three NCAA Tournament berths.

    Grady was on the sidelines for two of the best teams in program history. First, the 2012-13 squad that matched a program record with 23 wins en route to the second round of the NCAA Tournament and then in 2014-15, when SRU once again advanced to the second round of the NCAA Tournament before ending the season with an overall record of 21-11.

    On his watch, 15 Rock players have received All-PSAC West honors including 2012-13 PSAC West Defensive Player of the Year Luiz Santos and eventual All-Americans Micah Till, Maron Brown and Devin Taylor.

    If these superlatives are what makes Grady such a good option as your HC, why exactly did you fire KR??
    Sounds like KR would have a compelling case in the court of law....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSACfan1 View Post
    Sounds like KR would have a compelling case in the court of law....
    On the face of it, yes, yes he does. For SRU to "win" KR would have had to have done something to breach his contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    On the face of it, yes, yes he does. For SRU to "win" KR would have had to have done something to breach his contract.
    Hopefully he wins, the idea of mob rule and protesting to strong arm organizations, universities, etc. to make decisions they otherwise wouldn't has gotten extremely annoying...and quite frankly dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Seems like he has experience sitting at the right hand of a coach that did just that...Unfortuanatly, what he learned from KR is not what the current administration is looking for.

    Funny when a school "fire" a HC and replaces him with a long time assistant how that new HC's on-line bio trumpets the success of the program under the just fired HC. Here's part of Grady's official SRU bio:

    Grady helped guide Slippery Rock to a stellar 167-101 (.623) record over his first nine years on the staff, which included eight winning seasons, five 20-win seasons, seven trips to the Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference Tournament and three NCAA Tournament berths.

    Grady was on the sidelines for two of the best teams in program history. First, the 2012-13 squad that matched a program record with 23 wins en route to the second round of the NCAA Tournament and then in 2014-15, when SRU once again advanced to the second round of the NCAA Tournament before ending the season with an overall record of 21-11.

    On his watch, 15 Rock players have received All-PSAC West honors including 2012-13 PSAC West Defensive Player of the Year Luiz Santos and eventual All-Americans Micah Till, Maron Brown and Devin Taylor.

    If these superlatives are what makes Grady such a good option as your HC, why exactly did you fire KR??
    As usual (sarcasm) I agree 100 percent with Boat.

    I said this when they hired him. They wanted a fresh start yet hire the top assistant who saw and likely took a part in it all going down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    As usual (sarcasm) I agree 100 percent with Boat.

    I said this when they hired him. They wanted a fresh start yet hire the top assistant who saw and likely took a part in it all going down.
    Aw come on Indian...You KNOW agreeing with me is one of your guilty pleasures!! Kind of like sneaking to the Circle K and getting ice cream when you are on a diet...you know it's wrong but it feels sooooo good!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Aw come on Indian...You KNOW agreeing with me is one of your guilty pleasures!! Kind of like sneaking to the Circle K and getting ice cream when you are on a diet...you know it's wrong but it feels sooooo good!!!!!!
    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    As usual (sarcasm) I agree 100 percent with Boat.

    I said this when they hired him. They wanted a fresh start yet hire the top assistant who saw and likely took a part in it all going down.
    I really don’t think Grady will carry on the bad traits but he will carry on the good. Every assistant on every staff agrees with things the HC is doing but they also have a personal belief that many things need to be done differently. Whether than is the player A needs more minutes or the HC needs to be more patient when dealing with player B or player C needs to have a different role. A lot of that goes on. Having a player mutiny is extremely rare. The things leading up to it won’t be repeated by Grady.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPTrackMan View Post
    I really don’t think Grady will carry on the bad traits but he will carry on the good. Every assistant on every staff agrees with things the HC is doing but they also have a personal belief that many things need to be done differently. Whether than is the player A needs more minutes or the HC needs to be more patient when dealing with player B or player C needs to have a different role. A lot of that goes on. Having a player mutiny is extremely rare. The things leading up to it won’t be repeated by Grady.
    Will Grady be KR in style? Maybe not completely, but he did learn how to be a coach at the knee of KR. In fact, the only coaching gig he has had is working for KR so he doesn't have a wealth of experience learning from different coaches with different techniques to draw from. While he may have been told that that style will not fly at SRU anymore, at the end of the day he really has only seen one way of doing things and the odds of him falling back into old KR habits is great...particularly if the L's start to mount.

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    Let's keep in mind Grady probably came on the cheap, too. I'd guess he's making half of Joe Lombardi.

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