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    When or WILL this Ferris State player issue be resolved. I know the NCAA does not give a tinkers damn about D2 football but one would think that the GLIAC commissioner would make a ruling. Perhaps this would be a sign of life out of that office. I dont see the GLIAC office doing anything about this or the poor officiating that goes on every week. It is laughable in some of the games. Perhaps someone should call or visit the office and see if they are indeed even there or awake?

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    This issue will be resolved in March, Ferris will have to forfeit their Gliac championship and playoff wins!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles73 View Post
    This issue will be resolved in March, Ferris will have to forfeit their Gliac championship and playoff wins!
    No, they won’t. Unless they use another ineligible player in those games.

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    TA and Ferris will get a little pat on the behind, a good game, and a "you're naughty" from the NCAA.

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    I'll guess they lose 4 scholarships for next year

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    My prediction:
    They take away everyone's cell phone priveleges for 5 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Carlson View Post
    No, they won’t. Unless they use another ineligible player in those games.
    I am not new to d2football.com. but am new to the Messaage Board. Wondering could get a bit more background info on the Ferris State situation. I just heard about it last weekend at the Pitt State-Mo Western game but did not want to say any further about it as was just a rumor. But from reading the MB, it seems to be the "real thing" and would just like to know a bit more. Appreciate any help. Obviously, I am a Pitt State Gorilla fan/alum1966).
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    Quote Originally Posted by gorilla View Post
    I am not new to d2football.com. but am new to the Messaage Board. Wondering could get a bit more background info on the Ferris State situation. I just heard about it last weekend at the Pitt State-Mo Western game but did not want to say any further about it as was just a rumor. But from reading the MB, it seems to be the "real thing" and would just like to know a bit more. Appreciate any help. Obviously, I am a Pitt State Gorilla fan/alum1966).
    Casey
    A defensive lineman started his collegiate career as a wrestler at Michigan, transferred to Kent State the next year to play football and was redshirted, and transferred to Ferris the next year and played right away. Under the 4-4-4 rule, he would have had to sit this year since it was his second transfer between 4 year institutions. Allegedly, he initially approached Grand Valley. The interest was mutual and GV told him he would have to sit for 2018. He also went to Ferris with interest and was told by them he could play right away. So...He ended up at Ferris and played as a backup DL the first 4 weeks before the infraction was discovered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeachinLaker View Post
    A defensive lineman started his collegiate career as a wrestler at Michigan, transferred to Kent State the next year to play football and was redshirted, and transferred to Ferris the next year and played right away. Under the 4-4-4 rule, he would have had to sit this year since it was his second transfer between 4 year institutions. Allegedly, he initially approached Grand Valley. The interest was mutual and GV told him he would have to sit for 2018. He also went to Ferris with interest and was told by them he could play right away. So...He ended up at Ferris and played as a backup DL the first 4 weeks before the infraction was discovered.
    Do you know if Grand Valley reported him for playing for Ferris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman View Post
    Do you know if Grand Valley reported him for playing for Ferris.
    I have no idea. I have also heard that more than just Grand Valley conveyed this. Ferris claims to have self-reported it, but I'm sure they didn't just magically figure it out a full month into the season without some kind of outside input on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeachinLaker View Post
    I have no idea. I have also heard that more than just Grand Valley conveyed this. Ferris claims to have self-reported it, but I'm sure they didn't just magically figure it out a full month into the season without some kind of outside input on the matter.
    I'm pretty certain.. though not first hand certain... that GV informed the NCAA and GLIAC about this after the 4th week... something about seeing the kid on game tape. IMO, it shouldn't matter if GV did or didn't.. though some could speculate that Xerris turned themselves in AFTER such communication was made.

    But, like you mentioned, there also hasn't been an explanation by XSU, at least publicly, as to why they changed their position on the eligibility. And the student was aware that at least one school's position is that he had to sit a year.

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    I dont think anyone really thinks that the NCAA will do squat about this before the playoff run...if Ferris ran the table and won the Natty the only thing that would change is their record then, tell me that is not exactly what the GLIAC office hopes...get the pub and punish them in the off season when really it will amount to anything..GLIAC could have moved by now if they really wanted to ...who knows...all I know is ya better win each game and hope your guys stay healthy.

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    The NCAA will probably decide that the best way to punish Ferris is to put Northern Michigan on probation.

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    Nice Jerry Tarkanian quote! NCAA so mad at Kentucky, they gave Cleveland St. 4 years probation! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by champgymusa View Post
    I dont think anyone really thinks that the NCAA will do squat about this before the playoff run...if Ferris ran the table and won the Natty the only thing that would change is their record then, tell me that is not exactly what the GLIAC office hopes...get the pub and punish them in the off season when really it will amount to anything..GLIAC could have moved by now if they really wanted to ...who knows...all I know is ya better win each game and hope your guys stay healthy.
    This has been my stance the whole time. Neither the NCAA nor the GLIAC care enough to do anything despite the rule explicitly being written down. They'll get a slap on the wrist after the season, and nobody will ever find out what, if any, punishment there is.

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    I hope they get in the PO's and lose in the first round.
    If they get in and go deep, we will hear about how they cheated for the next 15 years.
    If they miss the PO's, we'll hear about how "the best team in D2" wasn't in the PO's for 15 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predatory Primates View Post
    I hope they get in the PO's and lose in the first round.
    If they get in and go deep, we will hear about how they cheated for the next 15 years.
    If they miss the PO's, we'll hear about how "the best team in D2" wasn't in the PO's for 15 years.
    I suspect most would agree. However, I would like to see at lease something handed out by the NCAA, otherwise the rules can be toothless, just self report.. "oops, we messed up.. everything's ok now." Otherwise ditch the nullification document.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman View Post
    Do you know if Grand Valley reported him for playing for Ferris.
    Ferris self reported, officially.


    To me, I hope the rules are followed. But at the end of the day, I’m not going to lose sleep over this particular situation, since it’s not like the “infraction” gave them any sort of a competitive advantage.

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    Everyone's looking for the NCAA and GLIAC to get Ferris out. Just beat us on the field and it won't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Carlson View Post
    Ferris self reported, officially.


    To me, I hope the rules are followed. But at the end of the day, I’m not going to lose sleep over this particular situation, since it’s not like the “infraction” gave them any sort of a competitive advantage.
    Competitive advantage is a subjective term and shouldn't even be a factor in issuing a punishment. The bottom line is Ferris cheated and should be punished. Otherwise what the hell does the NCAA have rules for?!? This could set a bad precedent if the NCAA gets this wrong which I suspect they will.

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