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    Default OT: Nick Bosa

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Thoughts?
    I hope he doesn't get drafted. This is a serious character flaw despite if people want to recognize it or not. This is quitting on your team for your own gain. What is to stop him from doing it again. Same thing with Lev Bell in a way. I understand people need to take care of number 1 first but there are right ways of doing so and wrong ways. This is a wrong way. He is not the type of guy you can count on period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefln View Post
    I hope he doesn't get drafted. This is a serious character flaw despite if people want to recognize it or not. This is quitting on your team for your own gain. What is to stop him from doing it again. Same thing with Lev Bell in a way. I understand people need to take care of number 1 first but there are right ways of doing so and wrong ways. This is a wrong way. He is not the type of guy you can count on period.
    He may go No. 1 overall. He's already hurt and hasn't played for a month. Similar to skipping the bowl game, right?

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    Default Re: OT: Nick Bosa

    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    He may go No. 1 overall. He's already hurt and hasn't played for a month. Similar to skipping the bowl game, right?
    Doesn't he need surgery on his groin? jus sayin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefln View Post
    I hope he doesn't get drafted. This is a serious character flaw despite if people want to recognize it or not. This is quitting on your team for your own gain. What is to stop him from doing it again. Same thing with Lev Bell in a way. I understand people need to take care of number 1 first but there are right ways of doing so and wrong ways. This is a wrong way. He is not the type of guy you can count on period.
    Wow says the guy who doesn’t have a 15+ million dollar signing bonus on the line if he slips in the draft. College is cool but these guys aren’t banging their heads for the glory it’s about the Mula at that Level. Bosa is doing what’s best for his future. 100 sacks for Ohio state puts zero dollars in his pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    He may go No. 1 overall. He's already hurt and hasn't played for a month. Similar to skipping the bowl game, right?
    And I am saying that way of thinking is a character flaw and is something I would stay away from. This is not like Arron Donald holding out of camp. This is Bell quitting on the team in season. You are going to pay someone millions of dollars to help you win a championship, i want to know I can count on them. This is quitting no matter how anyone tries to spin it. I also think those skipping bowl games are quitters too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefln View Post
    And I am saying that way of thinking is a character flaw and is something I would stay away from. This is not like Arron Donald holding out of camp. This is Bell quitting on the team in season. You are going to pay someone millions of dollars to help you win a championship, i want to know I can count on them. This is quitting no matter how anyone tries to spin it. I also think those skipping bowl games are quitters too.
    You’re ridiculous lmao

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    Default Re: OT: Nick Bosa

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefln View Post
    I hope he doesn't get drafted. This is a serious character flaw despite if people want to recognize it or not. This is quitting on your team for your own gain. What is to stop him from doing it again. Same thing with Lev Bell in a way. I understand people need to take care of number 1 first but there are right ways of doing so and wrong ways. This is a wrong way. He is not the type of guy you can count on period.

    Curious what's wrong with what Lev Bell is doing? He's within the rules of the league and union. I get the 'team' aspect angle and all but what if he blew out his knee? What's that do to his value entering his big free agent contract next year? This isn't college anymore. They get to make their own decisions whether we agree with them or not. He could care less about the 'team' in this instance (he's far from the only one). He wants that big contract. And, he'll get it from somebody. These guys want paid ... can't blame them for it. One play and it can all end. College is a lot of the team, team, team stuff. The NFL is the me, me, me stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostOfHomer01 View Post
    Wow says the guy who doesn’t have a 15+ million dollar signing bonus on the line if he slips in the draft. College is cool but these guys aren’t banging their heads for the glory it’s about the Mula at that Level. Bosa is doing what’s best for his future. 100 sacks for Ohio state puts zero dollars in his pocket.
    You are not following what I am saying. You are speaking from the players pov. I am talking from the owners pov. If I am going to pay someone money, I need to know they have the character to stand up to the fire, no matter if it is in the board room, construction site, or in this case the football field. He is putting his needs above the teams needs and if i was an owner I would not pay for that. It is a major character flaw.

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    Default Re: OT: Nick Bosa

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefln View Post
    And I am saying that way of thinking is a character flaw and is something I would stay away from. This is not like Arron Donald holding out of camp. This is Bell quitting on the team in season. You are going to pay someone millions of dollars to help you win a championship, i want to know I can count on them. This is quitting no matter how anyone tries to spin it. I also think those skipping bowl games are quitters too.
    Guess what? Ohio State isn't paying him millions.

    The team that takes him No. 1 overall will be paying him millions.

    Big difference.

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    Default Re: OT: Nick Bosa

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefln View Post
    You are not following what I am saying. You are speaking from the players pov. I am talking from the owners pov. If I am going to pay someone money, I need to know they have the character to stand up to the fire, no matter if it is in the board room, construction site, or in this case the football field. He is putting his needs above the teams needs and if i was an owner I would not pay for that. It is a major character flaw.
    Guess what? If you owned the Rams and chose to not sign Aaron Donald ... 31 others teams would be fighting for him ... and you'd be getting smoked by him on the field. The NFL is a business. Bottom line.

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    Default Re: OT: Nick Bosa

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefln View Post
    You are not following what I am saying. You are speaking from the players pov. I am talking from the owners pov. If I am going to pay someone money, I need to know they have the character to stand up to the fire, no matter if it is in the board room, construction site, or in this case the football field. He is putting his needs above the teams needs and if i was an owner I would not pay for that. It is a major character flaw.
    Bosa’s contributions to Ohio state has far outweighed his 145k scholarship. I think they will be fine and just plug in another 5 star. The difference is anybody can work at a construction site there is no leverage or risk of value just hire another. There isn’t a lot of Nick Bosa’s. And less than 1% of the population will ever see the kind of cash that’s in front of him. GET THE MONEY

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostOfHomer01 View Post
    Bosa’s contributions to Ohio state has far outweighed his 145k scholarship. I think they will be fine and just plug in another 5 star. The difference is anybody can work at a construction site there is no leverage or risk of value just hire another. There isn’t a lot of Nick Bosa’s. And less than 1% of the population will ever see the kind of cash that’s in front of him. GET THE MONEY

    ARE YOU NOT FOLLOWING WHAT I AM STATING. I understand why HE is doing it. That is not my point. Looking at it from owners POV, he is not the type of guy you want in the locker room, just like Bell would not be. These guys fit in at a place like Cincinnati, where the guys put their needs above the teams needs DURING THE SEASON. You don't see these type of guys at New England or the Steelers, they get pushed out the door. That is why they are successful franchises as opposed to Cincy who has good/great players but are never more than 1 and done in the playoffs.

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    Default Re: OT: Nick Bosa

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefln View Post
    ARE YOU NOT FOLLOWING WHAT I AM STATING. I understand why HE is doing it. That is not my point. Looking at it from owners POV, he is not the type of guy you want in the locker room, just like Bell would not be. These guys fit in at a place like Cincinnati, where the guys put their needs above the teams needs DURING THE SEASON. You don't see these type of guys at New England or the Steelers, they get pushed out the door. That is why they are successful franchises as opposed to Cincy who has good/great players but are never more than 1 and done in the playoffs.
    I'm afraid I've got some bad news on that front. These aren't the old Steelers anymore.

    Bosa at worst goes in the TOP 3 of the draft ... and that's regardless if it was random and New England was picking at the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    I'm afraid I've got some bad news on that front. These aren't the old Steelers anymore.

    Bosa at worst goes in the TOP 3 of the draft ... and that's regardless if it was random and New England was picking at the top.
    I get that he is top 3 even with this stunt, I understand he is going to get paid. I just understand that it is a character flaw and that matter. Another difference is I know what type of teams he will be playing for. IE the ones that are not good because the locker room is a circus, because ownership does not have a grasp of dealing with issues and hired no one capable of it either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefln View Post
    ARE YOU NOT FOLLOWING WHAT I AM STATING. I understand why HE is doing it. That is not my point. Looking at it from owners POV, he is not the type of guy you want in the locker room, just like Bell would not be. These guys fit in at a place like Cincinnati, where the guys put their needs above the teams needs DURING THE SEASON. You don't see these type of guys at New England or the Steelers, they get pushed out the door. That is why they are successful franchises as opposed to Cincy who has good/great players but are never more than 1 and done in the playoffs.
    Belichick signs all kinds of guys with character flaws (Josh Gordon anyone?). The only reason he doesn’t draft them is because he’s always picking at the end of the first round. He’d draft Bosa in a heartbeat if he could.

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    Default Re: OT: Nick Bosa

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefln View Post
    I get that he is top 3 even with this stunt, I understand he is going to get paid. I just understand that it is a character flaw and that matter. Another difference is I know what type of teams he will be playing for. IE the ones that are not good because the locker room is a circus, because ownership does not have a grasp of dealing with issues and hired no one capable of it either.
    I don't follow? Even if he'd stay at Ohio State the rest of the year ... he'd still be picked by one of the dreg teams. So, what's the difference?

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    I would call Bosa a smart cat here. Mike, I always respect your opinions but what if Bosa does finish the rest of the year and complete physical catastrophe occurs and his playing career is over. Can he stand on his soap box and preach to the 32 NFL owners that he by right should still be the number one pick in the draft even if he can't walk or run by virtue of him finishing out his college career or playing in the Bowl game? He would be laughed right out of the room and get nothing at all!

    If I were Bosa or he were my son I would absolutely advise him to sandbag it. It's just the $mart thing to do.

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    Default Re: OT: Nick Bosa

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefln View Post
    ARE YOU NOT FOLLOWING WHAT I AM STATING. I understand why HE is doing it. That is not my point. Looking at it from owners POV, he is not the type of guy you want in the locker room, just like Bell would not be. These guys fit in at a place like Cincinnati, where the guys put their needs above the teams needs DURING THE SEASON. You don't see these type of guys at New England or the Steelers, they get pushed out the door. That is why they are successful franchises as opposed to Cincy who has good/great players but are never more than 1 and done in the playoffs.
    1. NE wins because the AFC east is a sleep walk to the playoffs every year 2. They have a bunch of guys that have average talent at best lunch pale guys that are cerebral 3. Without 2 people NE would be one of the worst teams in the NFL Brady and Belichik are geniuses

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostOfHomer01 View Post
    1. NE wins because the AFC east is a sleep walk to the playoffs every year 2. They have a bunch of guys that have average talent at best lunch pale guys that are cerebral 3. Without 2 people NE would be one of the worst teams in the NFL Brady and Belichik are geniuses
    Well said. But let me expound upon point #1 a tad here----in addition to the AFC East being a sleep walk to the playoffs every year, in the process the Cheatriots fatten their record enough to always receive one of the postseason byes and get a guaranteed game up at that damn place they play at. They are tough to beat up there. They are then usually in the AFC title game every year it seems. Seven straight I believe now. The secret is to get them out of there and make them go on the road where they are beatable.

    Plus, they have the market cornered with their bag of dirty tricks they use.

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