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    Default Way too early SR4

    Might as well get this rolling too. Your guys thoughts

    From the Causal_Observer of the LSC..


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    Default Re: Way too early SR4

    This is actually a separate ranking system.

    Below is what I am using for Region Consideration:

    This is after 5 Games

    I expect shake ups all over the top 15 next week.

    Games to watch: (D2 Records)
    Texas A&M Commerce (4-1) @ Midwestern State (5-0)
    Minnesota State (5-0) @ Moorhead State (4-1)
    Minnesota Duluth (5-0) @ Augustana (3-2)
    Sioux Falls (4-1) @ Bemidji State (4-1)
    Central Washington (3-1) @ Azusa Pacific (4-0)
    Dixie State (4-1) @ Grand Valley State (5-0)

    This poll is using the statistics that the NCAA identifies: D2 %, SOS, D2 Road, D2 vs.500, In Region % then there are bonuses given for In region wins and penalties for losses. (This formula was fairly close to final from last year).:
    1.) MN Duluth
    2.) MN State
    3.) Colorado Mines
    4.) Tarleton State - Bump for playing Angelo
    5.) Midwestern State - Hurt by playing Eastern
    6.) Azusa Pacific
    7.) CSU-Pueblo
    8.) Sioux Falls
    9.) Chadron State
    10.) C Washington
    11.) Bemidji State
    12.) Moorhead State
    13.) Dixie State
    14.) Texas A&M Commerce
    15.) West Texas A&M
    16.) Winona State
    17.) Augustana

    Set of numbers based on In Region W%+SOS+Overall D2 W%+D2 Road %:

    1.) MN Duluth - .843
    2.) MN State - .837
    3.) Colorado Mines - .834
    4.) CSU - Pueblo - .803
    5.) Midwestern State - .796
    6.) Tarleton State - .788
    7.) Azusa Pacific - .735
    8.) Sioux Falls - .669
    9.) Dixie State - .655
    10.) Chadron State - .644
    11.) West Texas A&M - .635
    12.) Bemidji State - .632
    12.) Moorhead State - .632
    14.) Texas A&M Commerce - .624
    15.) Augustana - .5915
    16.) Colorado Mesa - .59115
    17.) St Cloud -.59113

    Using Just Performance Index:
    1.) MN State - 20.6
    2.) MN Duluth - 20
    3.) Colorado Mines - 19.4
    4.) CSU-Pueblo - 18.8
    5.) Midwestern State - 17
    6.) Tarleton State - 16.75
    7.) Sioux Falls - 16.4
    8.) Dixie State - 15.2
    9.) Azusa Pacific - 15
    10.) Chadron State - 14.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casual_Observer View Post
    This is actually a separate ranking system.

    Below is what I am using for Region Consideration:

    This is after 5 Games

    I expect shake ups all over the top 15 next week.

    Games to watch: (D2 Records)
    Texas A&M Commerce (4-1) @ Midwestern State (5-0)
    Minnesota State (5-0) @ Moorhead State (4-1)
    Minnesota Duluth (5-0) @ Augustana (3-2)
    Sioux Falls (4-1) @ Bemidji State (4-1)
    Central Washington (3-1) @ Azusa Pacific (4-0)
    Dixie State (4-1) @ Grand Valley State (5-0)

    This poll is using the statistics that the NCAA identifies: D2 %, SOS, D2 Road, D2 vs.500, In Region % then there are bonuses given for In region wins and penalties for losses. (This formula was fairly close to final from last year).:
    1.) MN Duluth
    2.) MN State
    3.) Colorado Mines
    4.) Tarleton State - Bump for playing Angelo
    5.) Midwestern State - Hurt by playing Eastern
    6.) Azusa Pacific
    7.) CSU-Pueblo
    8.) Sioux Falls
    9.) Chadron State
    10.) C Washington
    11.) Bemidji State
    12.) Moorhead State
    13.) Dixie State
    14.) Texas A&M Commerce
    15.) West Texas A&M
    16.) Winona State
    17.) Augustana

    Set of numbers based on In Region W%+SOS+Overall D2 W%+D2 Road %:

    1.) MN Duluth - .843
    2.) MN State - .837
    3.) Colorado Mines - .834
    4.) CSU - Pueblo - .803
    5.) Midwestern State - .796
    6.) Tarleton State - .788
    7.) Azusa Pacific - .735
    8.) Sioux Falls - .669
    9.) Dixie State - .655
    10.) Chadron State - .644
    11.) West Texas A&M - .635
    12.) Bemidji State - .632
    12.) Moorhead State - .632
    14.) Texas A&M Commerce - .624
    15.) Augustana - .5915
    16.) Colorado Mesa - .59115
    17.) St Cloud -.59113

    Using Just Performance Index:
    1.) MN State - 20.6
    2.) MN Duluth - 20
    3.) Colorado Mines - 19.4
    4.) CSU-Pueblo - 18.8
    5.) Midwestern State - 17
    6.) Tarleton State - 16.75
    7.) Sioux Falls - 16.4
    8.) Dixie State - 15.2
    9.) Azusa Pacific - 15
    10.) Chadron State - 14.6
    Thanks for the details! Appreciate that you’ve been doing this over the years!

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    But how can Duluth be #1 when they shouldn't even be ranked nationally? Is our region that bad? Hehehe
    Last edited by NSU4LIFE; 10-01-2018 at 09:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSU4LIFE View Post
    But how can Duluth be #1 when they should even be ranked nationally? Is our region that bad? Hehehe
    Love it!

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    Default Re: Way too early SR4

    Someone remind me when do the real regional rankings come out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twincitiesmav View Post
    Someone remind me when do the real regional rankings come out?
    I want to say after game eight but that might not be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laker View Post
    I want to say after game eight but that might not be right.
    That sounds right though it may be one week later the more I think about it. O remember laughing at how late it all starts

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmy21 View Post
    That sounds right though it may be one week later the more I think about it. O remember laughing at how late it all starts
    I don't think it is any earlier than that. I guessed 8 but it might be after 9.

    Witt would know.

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    Way too early SR4 Rankings as of after week 6.

    I'm going off simply of record and then SOS. A lot can happen in five weeks so

    1. Minnesota St. (6-0)
    2. Colorado Mines (6-0)
    3. Minnesota Duluth (6-0).
    4. Tarleton St. (5-0)
    5. Midwestern St. (5-1)
    6. Texas A&M Commerce (5-1)
    7. Colorado St. Pueblo (5-1)

    On the crisp...

    8. Central Washington (4-2)
    9. Azusa Pacific (4-2)
    10. Bemidji St. (5-1)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twincitiesmav View Post
    Way too early SR4 Rankings as of after week 6.

    I'm going off simply of record and then SOS. A lot can happen in five weeks so

    1. Minnesota St. (6-0)
    2. Colorado Mines (6-0)
    3. Minnesota Duluth (6-0).
    4. Tarleton St. (5-0)
    5. Midwestern St. (5-1)
    6. Texas A&M Commerce (5-1)
    7. Colorado St. Pueblo (5-1)

    On the crisp...

    8. Central Washington (4-2)
    9. Azusa Pacific (4-2)
    10. Bemidji St. (5-1)
    MSU's win over Moorhead was enough SOS boost to beat UMD out for 1st?

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    Yes. Not by much, but yes. Like I said a lot can happen in 5 weeks. Like a GNAC team will likely get in because the NCAA likes to have at least one team per conference in. But I don't have any of them in as of now because they both have two L's. I believe if a top team from a conference finishes no lower then #8, then they get bumped to #7. But if a top team finishes below #8, then they stay home from the postseason. I do have just a little biased towards the mavs ;) but they've looked really good the last couple of weeks. Like I said theres still a lot of games left to be played and a lot can change!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twincitiesmav View Post
    Yes. Not by much, but yes. Like I said a lot can happen in 5 weeks. Like a GNAC team will likely get in because the NCAA likes to have at least one team per conference in. But I don't have any of them in as of now because they both have two L's. I believe if a top team from a conference finishes no lower then #8, then they get bumped to #7. But if a top team finishes below #8, then they stay home from the postseason. I do have just a little biased towards the mavs ;) but they've looked really good the last couple of weeks. Like I said theres still a lot of games left to be played and a lot can change!
    Both the top two GNAC schools have one D2 loss; CWU lost to WTAMU and one FCS school. APU lost to CWU and one FCS squad, so for rankings purposes just one loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by We-Are-Lions View Post
    Both the top two GNAC schools have one D2 loss; CWU lost to WTAMU and one FCS school. APU lost to CWU and one FCS squad, so for rankings purposes just one loss.
    And Azusa still plays Colorado Mines and Central Washington again. Azusa should have a chance to show off how good they really are, or are not.

    Tarleton plays TAMUC and Midwestern over the next three weeks, so that will give a clear picture for the LSC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by We-Are-Lions View Post
    And Azusa still plays Colorado Mines and Central Washington again. Azusa should have a chance to show off how good they really are, or are not.

    Tarleton plays TAMUC and Midwestern over the next three weeks, so that will give a clear picture for the LSC.
    So playing FCS schools basically doesn’t matter then? If you say that, then sos for the gnac isn’t impressive either because you have a team from Canada that’s like crookston of the GNAC and a team that’s unfortunately on the chopping block. CWU’s d2 loss was a bad loss to West Texas.

    One thing I can say forsure is that a GNAC team won’t be getting a #1 seed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twincitiesmav View Post
    So playing FCS schools basically doesn’t matter then? If you say that, then sos for the gnac isn’t impressive either because you have a team from Canada that’s like crookston of the GNAC and a team that’s unfortunately on the chopping block. CWU’s d2 loss was a bad loss to West Texas.

    One thing I can say forsure is that a GNAC team won’t be getting a #1 seed.
    Yeah, I think, but not positive, that those are pretty much considered a bye week/No game for ranking purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twincitiesmav View Post
    So playing FCS schools basically doesn’t matter then? If you say that, then sos for the gnac isn’t impressive either because you have a team from Canada that’s like crookston of the GNAC and a team that’s unfortunately on the chopping block. CWU’s d2 loss was a bad loss to West Texas.

    One thing I can say forsure is that a GNAC team won’t be getting a #1 seed.
    If you are just after the host seeds then I agree. The GNAC likely doesn’t host, but I suspect the winner of the rematch gets in. And at least right now WTAMU isn’t a bad loss. They are 3-2 in D2, and have 2 very winnable games left out of 5. At this point they look to have a shot to go .500, and that is without any big upsets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twincitiesmav View Post
    Way too early SR4 Rankings as of after week 6.

    I'm going off simply of record and then SOS. A lot can happen in five weeks so

    1. Minnesota St. (6-0)
    2. Colorado Mines (6-0)
    3. Minnesota Duluth (6-0).
    4. Tarleton St. (5-0)
    5. Midwestern St. (5-1)
    6. Texas A&M Commerce (5-1)
    7. Colorado St. Pueblo (5-1)

    On the crisp...

    8. Central Washington (4-2)
    9. Azusa Pacific (4-2)
    10. Bemidji St. (5-1)
    Don't you mean, On the cusp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingfaithful View Post
    Don't you mean, On the cusp?
    I mean, it is kind of apple season...so maybe he means they will be busy eating "The Crisp" instead of playing football?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSU4LIFE View Post
    I mean, it is kind of apple season...so maybe he means they will be busy eating "The Crisp" instead of playing football?
    My favorite:


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