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    So, of the two supposed "Sleeping Giants" in the MIAA (UCM & UCO), one still sleeps soundly and the other one awakens angry as hell.

    While the braying braggart snores soundly in his stall still, the Wild Horse has clearly awoken and is now one angry, kicking, hungry snorter.

    UCO is making noise now and my instinct tells me this is just the beginning. The MIAA center of gravity is moving south, and unless the rest of us don't jack up our own programs, and do some hiring and firing, this new domination will be more certain, complete and merciless than it has been at any time in the last two decades.

    UCO did not just win last night; start to finish they DOMINATED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbadbod View Post
    So, of the two supposed "Sleeping Giants" in the MIAA (UCM & UCO), one still sleeps soundly and the other one awakens angry as hell.

    While the braying braggart snores soundly in his stall still, the Wild Horse has clearly awoken and is now one angry, kicking, hungry snorter.

    UCO is making noise now and my instinct tells me this is just the beginning. The MIAA center of gravity is moving south, and unless the rest of us don't jack up our own programs, and do some hiring and firing, this new domination will be more certain, complete and merciless than it has been at any time in the last two decades.

    UCO did not just win last night; start to finish they DOMINATED.
    I'm watching it now. I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbadbod View Post
    So, of the two supposed "Sleeping Giants" in the MIAA (UCM & UCO), one still sleeps soundly and the other one awakens angry as hell.

    While the braying braggart snores soundly in his stall still, the Wild Horse has clearly awoken and is now one angry, kicking, hungry snorter.

    UCO is making noise now and my instinct tells me this is just the beginning. The MIAA center of gravity is moving south, and unless the rest of us don't jack up our own programs, and do some hiring and firing, this new domination will be more certain, complete and merciless than it has been at any time in the last two decades.

    UCO did not just win last night; start to finish they DOMINATED.
    The 800 lb Gorilla has already dealt with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbadbod View Post
    So, of the two supposed "Sleeping Giants" in the MIAA (UCM & UCO), one still sleeps soundly and the other one awakens angry as hell.

    While the braying braggart snores soundly in his stall still, the Wild Horse has clearly awoken and is now one angry, kicking, hungry snorter.

    UCO is making noise now and my instinct tells me this is just the beginning. The MIAA center of gravity is moving south, and unless the rest of us don't jack up our own programs, and do some hiring and firing, this new domination will be more certain, complete and merciless than it has been at any time in the last two decades.

    UCO did not just win last night; start to finish they DOMINATED.
    Way, way too early to talk about change in MIAA power. But keep smoking them hot dogs.

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    The thing with UCO is that they seem to "awaken" every year. It's almost like they don't do anything before the season starts and use the first 3 to 6 games as their Spring practice.

    Not sure why this is, but it seems to be the case the last couple of years at least.

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    UCO, MW, WU, FHSU, UCM, ESU...lots of sleeping giants. None ever repeated except UCM in 80's and UCO is alone as never winning MIAA football championship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatFan88 View Post
    UCO, MW, WU, FHSU, UCM, ESU...lots of sleeping giants. None ever repeated.
    UCO and UCM are the only giants in that group. They're giants in terms of enrollment,
    Budgets, and donor support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Predatory Primates View Post
    UCO and UCM are the only giants in that group. They're giants in terms of enrollment,
    Budgets, and donor support.
    I would keep MW on that list. Slowly increasing enrollment and IMO an AD on the rise and poised to put MW on map. Looney won't let all those improvements at Spratt go for naught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatFan88 View Post
    UCO, MW, WU, FHSU, UCM, ESU...lots of sleeping giants. None ever repeated except UCM in 80's and UCO is alone as never winning MIAA football championship.
    I think our definition of "sleeping giant" might be a little bit different. To me you have to have the resources and not use them to the best of your abilities to be a sleeping giant. I think ESU has been credited with "doing more with less."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornetfan View Post
    I think our definition of "sleeping giant" might be a little bit different. To me you have to have the resources and not use them to the best of your abilities to be a sleeping giant. I think ESU has been credited with "doing more with less."
    I gotcha. In that case, I would still keep MW and WU on list as sleeping giants. Maybe, FHSU.

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    And Lindenwood. Not sure how much longer they will be in MIAA or D2, but talk about sleeping giant.

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    You’d think they would want to show they could consistently win at this level before moving up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatFan88 View Post
    And Lindenwood. Not sure how much longer they will be in MIAA or D2, but talk about sleeping giant.
    Lindenwood is more likely to go to the GLVC than the FCS.

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    Loss to Kearney at home says otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatFan88 View Post
    And Lindenwood. Not sure how much longer they will be in MIAA or D2, but talk about sleeping giant.
    A move to D1 is waaay long term for them. I don't think Brandon is far off on his thoughts about the GLVC. From an institutional standpoint, I don't think leadership thinks it makes much sense to play in a conference where your closest rival school is almost 3 hours away when we they reside in a footprint that has 2 schools within 20 minutes, another within an hour, and several within a couple of hours.

    It would make winning football games much easier, but you don't win Nationally coming out of the GLVC.


    You are correct though about being a sleeping giant. LU is pretty flush with money. Decent sized endowment and one of the only institutions to operate completely in the black. While their traditional undergrad enrollment is middle of the pack as far as MIAA goes, their total enrollment puts them over 15k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsig50 View Post
    A move to D1 is waaay long term for them. I don't think Brandon is far off on his thoughts about the GLVC. From an institutional standpoint, I don't think leadership thinks it makes much sense to play in a conference where your closest rival school is almost 3 hours away when we they reside in a footprint that has 2 schools within 20 minutes, another within an hour, and several within a couple of hours.

    It would make winning football games much easier, but you don't win Nationally coming out of the GLVC.


    You are correct though about being a sleeping giant. LU is pretty flush with money. Decent sized endowment and one of the only institutions to operate completely in the black. While their traditional undergrad enrollment is middle of the pack as far as MIAA goes, their total enrollment puts them over 15k.
    Torn between posting this here or in the Rob Robinson thread, but since there might be some actual news there and this is purely a chatting thread, here seems better.

    Between this and the rumors coming out of Tahlequah, are we finally getting closer to everyone's dream of returning to a 10 team football conference that could then play 2 non-conference games to kick the year off? It feels like it might be closer than it has been since expansion first began.The addition of Newman seems like another good indicator of this possibility. If we manage to add another no-football school, I'd probably say that I think it's going to happen. I'm getting giddy just thinking of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GorillaBred View Post
    Torn between posting this here or in the Rob Robinson thread, but since there might be some actual news there and this is purely a chatting thread, here seems better.

    Between this and the rumors coming out of Tahlequah, are we finally getting closer to everyone's dream of returning to a 10 team football conference that could then play 2 non-conference games to kick the year off? It feels like it might be closer than it has been since expansion first began.The addition of Newman seems like another good indicator of this possibility. If we manage to add another no-football school, I'd probably say that I think it's going to happen. I'm getting giddy just thinking of it.
    If that's the case, then it will make a move to the GLVC a little easier to stomach for me. It means we could still schedule an MIAA opponent every year to at least test our metal against the best in the country. Just not much to get excited about a schedule where 5-6 games are gimmes (assuming LU continues to build the way they seem to be right now).
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