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    A study indicates that Shippensburg University has the highest rate of on-campus drug and alcohol arrests in the COUNTRY. Five other state schools, including Penn State, are in the top 10.

    https://www.projectknow.com/discover/drugs-on-campus/

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    PSAC well-represented on that list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrshooter View Post
    A study indicates that Shippensburg University has the highest rate of on-campus drug and alcohol arrests in the COUNTRY. Five other state schools, including Penn State, are in the top 10.

    https://www.projectknow.com/discover/drugs-on-campus/
    7 PASSHE schools in top 25. Stricter enforcement than the rest of the country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrshooter View Post
    A study indicates that Shippensburg University has the highest rate of on-campus drug and alcohol arrests in the COUNTRY. Five other state schools, including Penn State, are in the top 10.

    https://www.projectknow.com/discover/drugs-on-campus/
    Keep in mind that many schools do not arrest students for drug and alcohol violations - they just issue policy violations. What the school does depends on policies of the school and the state ( PA allows less flexibility - particularly with state institutions)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrshooter View Post
    A study indicates that Shippensburg University has the highest rate of on-campus drug and alcohol arrests in the COUNTRY. Five other state schools, including Penn State, are in the top 10.

    https://www.projectknow.com/discover/drugs-on-campus/

    What? Slimey Pebble is on the list? I thought every day there is magical perfection where nothing bad ever happens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horror Child View Post
    7 PASSHE schools in top 25. Stricter enforcement than the rest of the country?

    That probably is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horror Child View Post
    7 PASSHE schools in top 25. Stricter enforcement than the rest of the country?
    It's per capita

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    It's per capita
    Check out the schools with high disciplinary actions - no PASSHE school, we arrest, they slap the wrist. on the other hand, maybe better to go easy, get the problems help, and not generate an arrest record. Probably bad for retention as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaniup View Post
    Check out the schools with high disciplinary actions - no PASSHE school, we arrest, they slap the wrist. on the other hand, maybe better to go easy, get the problems help, and not generate an arrest record. Probably bad for retention as well.
    Great for the lawyer industry. Anybody ever notice the amount of law offices in Indiana (for all the bigger it is)? Huge amount. IUP must be a goldmine for clients.

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    Being from out of state PA is EXTREMELY conservative especially western and the police are AGGRESSIVE on college campuses. Idk if it has to do with commonwealth states or whatever but it just seems like there are laws on top of laws to cite you or arrest you for anything and everything. You guys don't sell alcohol in stores the police are just looking at kids like a meal ticket every time they try and have fun. Those numbers are definitely inflated there isn't that much crime on these campuses. Definitely over policing at work here IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostOfHomer01 View Post
    Being from out of state PA is EXTREMELY conservative especially western and the police are AGGRESSIVE on college campuses. Idk if it has to do with commonwealth states or whatever but it just seems like there are laws on top of laws to cite you or arrest you for anything and everything. You guys don't sell alcohol in stores the police are just looking at kids like a meal ticket every time they try and have fun. Those numbers are definitely inflated there isn't that much crime on these campuses. Definitely over policing at work here IMO.
    Sounds like an IUP football tailgate for anybody under 25 years old. Lol.

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    I'm sorta torn on which way to look at it. I know Ship has a reputation for being a party school. It had that reputation three decades ago and longer. But whether it's gotten worse, or the local police are concentrating on cracking down on this area, I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostOfHomer01 View Post
    Being from out of state PA is EXTREMELY conservative especially western and the police are AGGRESSIVE on college campuses. Idk if it has to do with commonwealth states or whatever but it just seems like there are laws on top of laws to cite you or arrest you for anything and everything. You guys don't sell alcohol in stores the police are just looking at kids like a meal ticket every time they try and have fun. Those numbers are definitely inflated there isn't that much crime on these campuses. Definitely over policing at work here IMO.
    It's likely a matter of generating revenue. These towns are struggling and giving out fines non-stop is a good money source.

    IUP is the calmest it has been in decades minus the event in the spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    It's likely a matter of generating revenue. These towns are struggling and giving out fines non-stop is a good money source.

    IUP is the calmest it has been in decades minus the event in the spring.
    Some towns do the same thing with speed traps. We have one town outside Harrisburg that's notorious for it, because you're suddenly dropping from 55 to 35 on Routes 11-15. It's how they make money.

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    This is an indicator of enforcement, not partying. 11 out of the top 25 from PA!!! Pennsylvania probably has about 4% of the nation's college students but 44% of the top 25 on the list is from PA. Does anybody think PA college students party 11 times more than the national average?

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    PASSHE schools as state entities have the obligation to fully enforce the law, which means arrest/citation for all alcohol & drug violations. Private school up the road can just send them to the college version of the principal's office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Great for the lawyer industry. Anybody ever notice the amount of law offices in Indiana (for all the bigger it is)? Huge amount. IUP must be a goldmine for clients.

    Um County seats tend to have many law offices.

    Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPNation View Post
    Um County seats tend to have many law offices.

    Just sayin.
    Yeah, but I know a bunch of Lawyers who make most of their money on underage and pot charges - Its like a little industry. Some current prominent elected court officials made their money defending students, and the kids of the hoy ploy in town. Its amazing what local judges will do when you can pull the right strings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironmaniup View Post
    Yeah, but I know a bunch of Lawyers who make most of their money on underage and pot charges - Its like a little industry. Some current prominent elected court officials made their money defending students, and the kids of the hoy ploy in town. Its amazing what local judges will do when you can pull the right strings.
    It's actually a pretty sweet little racket. Everybody involved in town benefits. Lawyers get steady work -- mainly from parents who will pay anything to get charges expunged. The town ends up getting to collect fines. In most cases the students aren't really doing anything too, too bad. And the best part is every August a whole new cast of the 'young and dumb' arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    It's actually a pretty sweet little racket. Everybody involved in town benefits. Lawyers get steady work -- mainly from parents who will pay anything to get charges expunged. The town ends up getting to collect fines. In most cases the students aren't really doing anything too, too bad. And the best part is every August a whole new cast of the 'young and dumb' arrive.
    Funny thing is you typically don't need an attorney for citations like underage drinking, public drunkenness, disorderly conduct, etc. Doesn't the magistrate have a first time offender program?

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