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    https://triblive.com/sports/college/...merous-hurdles

    A couple takeaways:
    - Collins is in the last year of his contract. He sure as hell better be feeling pressure to win.
    - Complain about the cost difference all you want, but Collins has never had to fundraise for his scholarship dollars a day in his life.
    - Not really impressive quotes from the AD. Sounds like Frank Coonelly. "Gee I hope we get some wins this year!"

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    This is a tremendous article. Awesome on so many levels. What a story within the story.

    Nice shots from the AD at the coach:

    “Last year we were kind of blindsided, considering what we had accomplished the year before,” Seton Hill athletic director Chris Snyder said. “It kind of spiraled out of control. We talk during the season, and we sit down afterwards. I don’t know that I can put a number on winning. I know the challenges we have, but I also know the resources we commit to the program.”

    “We understand the challenges here,” said Snyder, who served as the school’s first football coach from 2004-07. “I think in every aspect, we need to show marked improvement. I can’t define that in wins and losses, but I can define it on Saturday afternoons.”



    Nice shot at the rest of the mere public schools:

    “The undertaking here is a little deeper than I thought when I took the job,” Collins said. “Last season was out of the norm for our building process, but we’re committed to doing things the right way and seeing our players graduate. We can’t win at any cost. We can’t win with renegades.

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    Seton Hill as a university has a 45% 4-year graduation rate. That's a flawed statistic but I'm interested to see what its like for their athletes specifically football players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    This is a tremendous article. Awesome on so many levels. What a story within the story.

    Nice shots from the AD at the coach:

    “Last year we were kind of blindsided, considering what we had accomplished the year before,” Seton Hill athletic director Chris Snyder said. “It kind of spiraled out of control. We talk during the season, and we sit down afterwards. I don’t know that I can put a number on winning. I know the challenges we have, but I also know the resources we commit to the program.”

    “We understand the challenges here,” said Snyder, who served as the school’s first football coach from 2004-07. “I think in every aspect, we need to show marked improvement. I can’t define that in wins and losses, but I can define it on Saturday afternoons.”



    Nice shot at the rest of the mere public schools:

    “The undertaking here is a little deeper than I thought when I took the job,” Collins said. “Last season was out of the norm for our building process, but we’re committed to doing things the right way and seeing our players graduate. We can’t win at any cost. We can’t win with renegades.
    renegades? what program added transfers with criminal backgrounds last year? Who is this program currently trying to win at all costs they speak of? Curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostOfHomer01 View Post
    renegades? what program added transfers with criminal backgrounds last year? Who is this program currently trying to win at all costs they speak of? Curious.
    That would be IUP and IUP.

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    You have to admit that's a classic quote.

    "We can't win at any costs. We can't win with renegades."

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    Sounds to me like SHU is in the wrong league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostOfHomer01 View Post
    renegades? what program added transfers with criminal backgrounds last year? Who is this program currently trying to win at all costs they speak of? Curious.

    No different than your program during their glory years. Need a few bandits to win.

    That said, Max Redfield was a model citizen. Ingratiated himself beautifully in the university and surrounding community. He was a church mouse. Went out of his way to do things off the field and in the community.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP24 View Post
    No different than your program during their glory years. Need a few bandits to win.

    That said, Max Redfield was a model citizen. Ingratiated himself beautifully in the university and surrounding community. He was a church mouse. Went out of his way to do things off the field and in the community.


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    Look man I'm the last person to judge a program for taking on kids with baggage people make mistakes so props to IUP. But i recall a lot of you on here singing a different tune when that incident happened at Cal and you guys judged our whole program to be a thug factory. When the facts came out only ONE person got in trouble for that and only ONE of the people involved had a criminal record.

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    Not bad. This thread took a full four posts to turn into an IUP conversation.

    More than usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostOfHomer01 View Post
    Look man I'm the last person to judge a program for taking on kids with baggage people make mistakes so props to IUP. But i recall a lot of you on here singing a different tune when that incident happened at Cal and you guys judged our whole program to be a thug factory. When the facts came out only ONE person got in trouble for that and only ONE of the people involved had a criminal record.
    That incident was deemed so heinous by people on here and people not on here that a lot of folks, including myself, believed that if you were there at the time you were guilty by association. Doesn't matter what the legal disposition was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iupgroundhog View Post
    That incident was deemed so heinous by people on here and people not on here that a lot of folks, including myself, believed that if you were there at the time you were guilty by association. Doesn't matter what the legal disposition was.

    I agree but we have to remember one of them played for IUP last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iupgroundhog View Post
    That incident was deemed so heinous by people on here and people not on here that a lot of folks, including myself, believed that if you were there at the time you were guilty by association. Doesn't matter what the legal disposition was.
    Dude came out of the hospital with minor injuries a day or two later and was seen on Cal's campus. To this day I believe that whole thing was blown out of proportion on purpose to finally have a reason to gut the Athletic Department especially the football team which she seems to have a disdain for. Geraldine Jones milked that thing into a complete overhaul of administration practices that will change Cal for the foreseeable future. Look at what has happened to all sports. Cals tennis team has won the PSAC for 16 years in a row or something asinine and now barely can win a match its sad man. The media ran wild with it and I still dont understand why. Im not a conspiracy theorist but I have a feeling something was cooking behind the scenes before that even happened. Womens soccer 3-4 years removed from a elite 8 finish now second to last in the PSAC, softball etc its all goin down hill in a hurry.

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    You're right. I mean if he was only hospitalized for a couple days ... who cares. Boys will be boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostOfHomer01 View Post
    Dude came out of the hospital with minor injuries a day or two later and was seen on Cal's campus. To this day I believe that whole thing was blown out of proportion on purpose to finally have a reason to gut the Athletic Department especially the football team which she seems to have a disdain for. Geraldine Jones milked that thing into a complete overhaul of administration practices that will change Cal for the foreseeable future. Look at what has happened to all sports. Cals tennis team has won the PSAC for 16 years in a row or something asinine and now barely can win a match its sad man. The media ran wild with it and I still dont understand why. Im not a conspiracy theorist but I have a feeling something was cooking behind the scenes before that even happened. Womens soccer 3-4 years removed from a elite 8 finish now second to last in the PSAC, softball etc its all goin down hill in a hurry.
    You're right - misuse of state and tuition dollars to benefit football deemed so egregious that the state ousted the longtime president was made up so Geri Jones and the pro-Armenti trustees could gut athletics. Maybe the Cal football resurgence - much like the convocation center and parking garage - was really just a facade (and a way to maintain the PSI of the president's ego). I can't believe for a second that they were raising all those scholarship funds through banner advertisements around the football field. I mean the biggest athletic fundraiser went from "raising" millions a year for Cal football to selling State Farm insurance. That's not the natural progression of a major university fundraiser.

    Maybe people just don't want to go to Cal now that they're not winning everything. If WVU football wasn't a big deal would anyone in their right mind decide to live in Morgantown, West Virginia for four years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Not bad. This thread took a full four posts to turn into an IUP conversation.

    More than usual.

    Well the PSAC DOES revolve around us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    I agree but we have to remember one of them played for IUP last year.
    I actually didn't remember. But now I remember most posters really were not happy that we took him. Now i remember that I sent an email to the AD to complain about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPNation View Post
    Well the PSAC DOES revolve around us.
    You confuse this message board with the PSAC in real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Not bad. This thread took a full four posts to turn into an IUP conversation.

    More than usual.
    If we ever play you again, I am going to buy you your favorite beverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    You're right. I mean if he was only hospitalized for a couple days ... who cares. Boys will be boys.

    This is now becoming an NHL conversation... In that it doesn’t matter how bad the action was, because as long as the recipient got up, we’re all good here, eh boys?


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