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    Link: http://insider.afca.com/afca-divisio...-2018-at-no-1/

    After claiming their first-ever Division II national championship in 2017, Texas A&M-Commerce will start the 2018 season ranked No. 1 in the AFCA Division II Coaches' Top 25 Poll. This is the first time since the poll began in 2000 that the Lions start the season ranked No. 1. West Florida, who lost to Texas A&M-Commerce in the championship game, begins this year at No. 2. The Argonauts are followed by Minnesota State at No. 3, Indiana (PA) at No. 4 and Fort Hays State and Northwest Missouri State tied at No. 5.

    The first week of action starts off with four Top 25 matchups, all on Thursday, August 30. The first game has No. 2 West Florida hosting No. 22 Carson-Newman while No. 4 Indiana (PA) travels to No. 15 Ashland. The third Top 25 matchup is a conference battle as No. 5 Fort Hays State plays host to No. 18 Central Missouri. The final matchup has No. 10 Grand Valley State hosting No. 13 Indianapolis.

    AFCA Division II Preseason Top 25 Poll (8/13)
    1. Texas A&M-Commerce (13) (14-1)
    2. West Florida (14) (11-4)
    3. Minnesota State-Mankato (2) (13-1)
    4. Indiana (PA) (2) (13-1)
    5t. Fort Hays State (11-1)
    5t. Northwest Missouri State (2) (9-3)
    7. Harding (11-4)
    8. Ferris State (11-2)
    9. Central Washington (11-1)
    10. Grand Valley State (8-3)
    11. Midwestern State (10-1)
    12. West Alabama (10-3)
    13. Indianapolis (11-1)
    14. Colorado State-Pueblo (9-3)
    15. Ashland (11-2)
    16. Shepherd (10-1)
    17. Assumption (11-2)
    18. Central Missouri (9-3)
    19. West Georgia (9-4)
    20. Sioux Falls (9-3)
    21. Winona State (10-2)
    22. Carson-Newman (8-3)
    23. Ohio Dominican (7-3)
    24. Ouachita Baptist (9-3)
    25. Findlay (10-3)

    Others Receiving Votes
    California (PA), Delta State, West Chester, Colorado Mesa, Bowie State, Virginia State, Minnesota-Duluth, Albany State, Florida Tech, Colorado School of Mines, Shippensburg, Tuskegee, Wingate, Azusa Pacific, Valdosta State, Pittsburg State, Notre Dame College, Eastern New Mexico, Edinboro, Missouri Western State, Bloomsburg, Emporia State, Central Oklahoma, LIU-C.W. Post, Slippery Rock, Augustana, Fairmont State, Humboldt State, Catawba, Fayetteville State, Hillsdale, Southern Arkansas, Washburn

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    Great to see the Top 25 rolled out. We are going to find out just how good #2 West Florida is right out of the gates. #22 Carson-Newman to open the season followed by a road trip to play #11 Midwestern State.

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    Polls don't mean anything. They should just let them play it out on the field. - Said most people unhappy with where their team is.
    translation - UWG is about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wscsuperfan View Post
    Link: http://insider.afca.com/afca-divisio...-2018-at-no-1/

    After claiming their first-ever Division II national championship in 2017, Texas A&M-Commerce will start the 2018 season ranked No. 1 in the AFCA Division II Coaches' Top 25 Poll. This is the first time since the poll began in 2000 that the Lions start the season ranked No. 1. West Florida, who lost to Texas A&M-Commerce in the championship game, begins this year at No. 2. The Argonauts are followed by Minnesota State at No. 3, Indiana (PA) at No. 4 and Fort Hays State and Northwest Missouri State tied at No. 5.

    The first week of action starts off with four Top 25 matchups, all on Thursday, August 30. The first game has No. 2 West Florida hosting No. 22 Carson-Newman while No. 4 Indiana (PA) travels to No. 15 Ashland. The third Top 25 matchup is a conference battle as No. 5 Fort Hays State plays host to No. 18 Central Missouri. The final matchup has No. 10 Grand Valley State hosting No. 13 Indianapolis.

    AFCA Division II Preseason Top 25 Poll (8/13)
    1. Texas A&M-Commerce (13) (14-1)
    2. West Florida (14) (11-4)
    3. Minnesota State-Mankato (2) (13-1)
    4. Indiana (PA) (2) (13-1)
    5t. Fort Hays State (11-1)
    5t. Northwest Missouri State (2) (9-3)
    7. Harding (11-4)
    8. Ferris State (11-2)
    9. Central Washington (11-1)
    10. Grand Valley State (8-3)
    11. Midwestern State (10-1)
    12. West Alabama (10-3)
    13. Indianapolis (11-1)
    14. Colorado State-Pueblo (9-3)
    15. Ashland (11-2)
    16. Shepherd (10-1)
    17. Assumption (11-2)
    18. Central Missouri (9-3)
    19. West Georgia (9-4)
    20. Sioux Falls (9-3)
    21. Winona State (10-2)
    22. Carson-Newman (8-3)
    23. Ohio Dominican (7-3)
    24. Ouachita Baptist (9-3)
    25. Findlay (10-3)

    Others Receiving Votes
    California (PA), Delta State, West Chester, Colorado Mesa, Bowie State, Virginia State, Minnesota-Duluth, Albany State, Florida Tech, Colorado School of Mines, Shippensburg, Tuskegee, Wingate, Azusa Pacific, Valdosta State, Pittsburg State, Notre Dame College, Eastern New Mexico, Edinboro, Missouri Western State, Bloomsburg, Emporia State, Central Oklahoma, LIU-C.W. Post, Slippery Rock, Augustana, Fairmont State, Humboldt State, Catawba, Fayetteville State, Hillsdale, Southern Arkansas, Washburn
    it's amazing how teams get better when they leave the gliac....60 teams listed....3 current gliac teams...5 former gliac teams....lol

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    Incredible to think that a MoWest team picked to finish 9th in the MIAA still receives votes.

    Only 4 teams from the conference did not receive votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsig50 View Post
    Incredible to think that a MoWest team picked to finish 9th in the MIAA still receives votes.

    Only 4 teams from the conference did not receive votes.
    looking forward to another round of gliac/ Miaa playoff games.... hoping gvsu is involved this time

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    Was this before or after HSU's announcement with them receiving votes? They lost more players last month due to that, but I'd love it if they could have a good season with all the administration has done to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvaara View Post
    it's amazing how teams get better when they leave the gliac....60 teams listed....3 current gliac teams...5 former gliac teams....lol
    Same thing over and over again. Team leaves the GLIAC for another conference, they're in the playoffs within a couple years.

    You could break up the GLIAC entirely right now and put one team in each D-II conference in the country and they'll all be in the playoffs within three years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KleShreen View Post
    Same thing over and over again. Team leaves the GLIAC for another conference, they're in the playoffs within a couple years.

    You could break up the GLIAC entirely right now and put one team in each D-II conference in the country and they'll all be in the playoffs within three years.
    Maybe GV should join the PSAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KleShreen View Post
    Same thing over and over again. Team leaves the GLIAC for another conference, they're in the playoffs within a couple years.

    You could break up the GLIAC entirely right now and put one team in each D-II conference in the country and they'll all be in the playoffs within three years.
    True for Mercyhurst. Last year in GLIAC in 2007, made only appearance in playoffs in 2010, third year in the PSAC.
    Not true for Gannon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KleShreen View Post
    Same thing over and over again. Team leaves the GLIAC for another conference, they're in the playoffs within a couple years.

    You could break up the GLIAC entirely right now and put one team in each D-II conference in the country and they'll all be in the playoffs within three years.
    preach it brother!

    I dont even know why they let in any team from Region 1, the lsc, rmac, gac, glvc, or the gnac.

    GLIAC champ should get an auto bid to the championship game. Everyone else should go through the pos.

    even better the top 8 Gliac teams vs the top 4 miaa teams, and 4 at larges, not from region 1, lsc, rmac, gnac, glvc, or gac( all garbage conferences that would be owned by the lowest GLIAC team.) This will allow for the distant possibility that there MIGHT be a team from another conference that MIGHT be able to get lucky enough to beat one of the lower teams in the GLIAC.

    If by some miracle a non GLIAC team wins it all we would know they are legit cause they would have to played several legit teams from the strongest conference in D2 and not just get lucky playing weak teams from weak conferences.


    It really is complete bunk that 1 GLIAC team has been able to play in a nc game in the last decade. if the other teams had to play a GLIAC schedule they wouldnt survive the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boohaha View Post
    preach it brother!

    I dont even know why they let in any team from Region 1, the lsc, rmac, gac, glvc, or the gnac.

    GLIAC champ should get an auto bid to the championship game. Everyone else should go through the pos.

    even better the top 8 Gliac teams vs the top 4 miaa teams, and 4 at larges, not from region 1, lsc, rmac, gnac, glvc, or gac( all garbage conferences that would be owned by the lowest GLIAC team.) This will allow for the distant possibility that there MIGHT be a team from another conference that MIGHT be able to get lucky enough to beat one of the lower teams in the GLIAC.
    If by some miracle a non GLIAC team wins it all we would know they are legit cause they would have to played several legit teams from the strongest conference in D2 and not just get lucky playing weak teams from weak conferences.


    It really is complete bunk that 1 GLIAC team has been able to play in a nc game in the last decade. if the other teams had to play a GLIAC schedule they wouldnt survive the season.

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    You are not making much sense. But you are passionate. I'll give you that.

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    Lol wut?

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    really guys, its clear as day


    GLIAC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>THAN ALL OF D2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boohaha View Post
    preach it brother!

    I dont even know why they let in any team from Region 1, the lsc, rmac, gac, glvc, or the gnac.

    GLIAC champ should get an auto bid to the championship game. Everyone else should go through the pos.

    even better the top 8 Gliac teams vs the top 4 miaa teams, and 4 at larges, not from region 1, lsc, rmac, gnac, glvc, or gac( all garbage conferences that would be owned by the lowest GLIAC team.) This will allow for the distant possibility that there MIGHT be a team from another conference that MIGHT be able to get lucky enough to beat one of the lower teams in the GLIAC.

    If by some miracle a non GLIAC team wins it all we would know they are legit cause they would have to played several legit teams from the strongest conference in D2 and not just get lucky playing weak teams from weak conferences.


    It really is complete bunk that 1 GLIAC team has been able to play in a nc game in the last decade. if the other teams had to play a GLIAC schedule they wouldnt survive the season.
    Uh, what? Where did I say any of that?

    You do see that all I said was they're in the playoffs within a couple years. Do you want me to break that down for you?

    Gannon - Left after 2007, where they were 1-9 in the conference, ending a four-year GLIAC run where they were never better than 3-7. They were over .500 two years later.

    Notre Dame (OH) - One year in the GLIAC. Went 2-8 in 2012. Went 5-6 in 2013, and then 7-3 in the MEC in 2014.

    Mercyhurst - 3-7 in GLIAC in 2005, 2006, 2007. First year in PSAC in 2008, they went 7-4. In the playoffs in 2010.

    Indianapolis - Didn't make the playoffs a single time in the GLIAC between 1990 and 2011. Since then, they've went 8-0, 7-0, 7-1, 8-0, 5-3, 8-0 in the GLVC and made the playoffs four times.

    Malone - Won 3 games in the GLIAC in 4 years. Total. Still garbage now.

    2016 - Hillsdale finished 4-5 in the GLIAC. Ohio Dominican, Findlay, Lake Erie, Walsh were the bottom four teams in the GLIAC South. Hillsdale goes 7-4 (5-2) this past year in new conference. Ohio Dominican went 7-3, including 7-0 in their new conference. Findlay goes 10-3, including 6-1 in conference, and makes playoffs for the first time ever after not making it to the playoffs in the GLIAC between 1998 and 2016. Lake Erie still sucked, but had a better conference record than they ever had in the GLIAC. Walsh goes over .500 in the conference in their first year.

    So in only one case in the last 15 years has a team left the GLIAC and stayed the same or worse in their new conference nearly immediately. Only two teams, Hillsdale and ODU, had made the playoffs while in the GLIAC. Since leaving the GLIAC, four teams have made the playoffs within a couple years, including three who couldn't make the playoffs in the GLIAC and all of them but one team has gotten better nearly overnight. That's not opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KleShreen View Post
    Uh, what? Where did I say any of that?

    You do see that all I said was they're in the playoffs within a couple years. Do you want me to break that down for you?

    Gannon - Left after 2007, where they were 1-9 in the conference, ending a four-year GLIAC run where they were never better than 3-7. They were over .500 two years later.

    Notre Dame (OH) - One year in the GLIAC. Went 2-8 in 2012. Went 5-6 in 2013, and then 7-3 in the MEC in 2014.

    Mercyhurst - 3-7 in GLIAC in 2005, 2006, 2007. First year in PSAC in 2008, they went 7-4. In the playoffs in 2010.

    Indianapolis - Didn't make the playoffs a single time in the GLIAC between 1990 and 2011. Since then, they've went 8-0, 7-0, 7-1, 8-0, 5-3, 8-0 in the GLVC and made the playoffs four times.

    Malone - Won 3 games in the GLIAC in 4 years. Total. Still garbage now.

    2016 - Hillsdale finished 4-5 in the GLIAC. Ohio Dominican, Findlay, Lake Erie, Walsh were the bottom four teams in the GLIAC South. Hillsdale goes 7-4 (5-2) this past year in new conference. Ohio Dominican went 7-3, including 7-0 in their new conference. Findlay goes 10-3, including 6-1 in conference, and makes playoffs for the first time ever after not making it to the playoffs in the GLIAC between 1998 and 2016. Lake Erie still sucked, but had a better conference record than they ever had in the GLIAC. Walsh goes over .500 in the conference in their first year.

    So in only one case in the last 15 years has a team left the GLIAC and stayed the same or worse in their new conference nearly immediately. Only two teams, Hillsdale and ODU, had made the playoffs while in the GLIAC. Since leaving the GLIAC, four teams have made the playoffs within a couple years, including three who couldn't make the playoffs in the GLIAC and all of them but one team has gotten better nearly overnight. That's not opinion.
    Like i said every other conference is onviously garbage, even the worst teams in the GLIAC would eventually DOMINATE ANY OTHER CONFERENCE! Dont be shy, preach it its the truth!

    There is the GLIAC then everyone else.
    All those Championship appearances that the GLIAC has missed out on in the past 10 years is because other teams dont have to play their rigorous schedule before the playoffs.

    It really is a tradgedy that the GLIAC could disband and 1 team go to each conference and ALL make the playoffs in 2 years. Cause if your conference isnt the GLIAC its sucks.

    Ive learned to live with the fact that football in the LSC is second teir compared to the GLIAC, everyone else can do it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KleShreen View Post
    Same thing over and over again. Team leaves the GLIAC for another conference, they're in the playoffs within a couple years.

    You could break up the GLIAC entirely right now and put one team in each D-II conference in the country and they'll all be in the playoffs within three years.
    agree...Findlay made it to regional final last year I believe...in first ever playoff and coincidentally first year out of gliac...same thing w Indy...mercyhurst went winless for years and made playoffs a year or so after leaving

    u would think that would result in a little respect in the polls...Its hard to believe that there r 60 teams better than svsu or Northwood Wayne St. etc


    the funniest listening here tho has to b Notre Dame... another team who was winless in gliac

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boohaha View Post
    Like i said every other conference is onviously garbage, even the worst teams in the GLIAC would eventually DOMINATE ANY OTHER CONFERENCE! Dont be shy, preach it its the truth!

    There is the GLIAC then everyone else.
    All those Championship appearances that the GLIAC has missed out on in the past 10 years is because other teams dont have to play their rigorous schedule before the playoffs.

    It really is a tradgedy that the GLIAC could disband and 1 team go to each conference and ALL make the playoffs in 2 years. Cause if your conference isnt the GLIAC its sucks.

    Ive learned to live with the fact that football in the LSC is second teir compared to the GLIAC, everyone else can do it too.
    Um. Ok. Maybe step away from the keyboard for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horror Child View Post
    True for Mercyhurst. Last year in GLIAC in 2007, made only appearance in playoffs in 2010, third year in the PSAC.
    Not true for Gannon.
    no but I think they won more games in first year out than their entire time in...they never beat any of the traditional gliac schools as far as I remember..might have beaten a couple of the filler schools like lake Erie or mercyhurst..note Dame etc

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