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    As per collegiate consulting, UNC Pembroke plans to be a MEC Associate member in football, wrestling and swimming coming up...not verified this other than that organization's tweet, but worth checking into for it.

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    Interesting. This is now a second (and now public) source, as Sportsnut earlier said he had heard something similar.

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    All part of the master plan for Mr. Amos... Now he calls on AB and D&E. AB balances out football and D&E balances out all other sports with Pembroke being "their" football. Let's see if he can get this pulled off. If he does...will there be a ripple effect?

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    Need a little more than a tweet from a consulting company. But lets assume for the moment that it's true...That would make UNCP the 12th football school which would mean the MEC would have no need for AB. 13 football schools doesn't make much sense from a scheduling standpoint. Buuuuttttt...If there are OTHER football playing schools (cough...cough...Ashland...cough...cough) in the mix, AB makes much more sense.

    IF, and I'm not convinced yet, UNCP does join football, it would appear that the demise of the MEC that some have hoped for was a bit overstated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Need a little more than a tweet from a consulting company. But lets assume for the moment that it's true...That would make UNCP the 12th football school which would mean the MEC would have no need for AB. 13 football schools doesn't make much sense from a scheduling standpoint. Buuuuttttt...If there are OTHER football playing schools (cough...cough...Ashland...cough...cough) in the mix, AB makes much more sense.

    IF, and I'm not convinced yet, UNCP does join football, it would appear that the demise of the MEC that some have hoped for was a bit overstated.
    It also may play into Sportsnut's info that it was UNC-P for football and D&E coming for the rest of the sports (getting basketball back to 12)

    Who is hoping for the demise of the MEC?

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    How far is UNCP to the members of the MEC? That seems like it would be a far drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tdobson View Post
    How far is UNCP to the members of the MEC? That seems like it would be a far drive.
    It's 350+ miles and over 600 miles to NDC!!! Kind of makes me think there must be something or someone else involved that would permit the MEC to break up into N/S or E/W divisions...and to get there, you need to be at 14+. That could possibly be AB plus ????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    It's 350+ miles and over 600 miles to NDC!!! Kind of makes me think there must be something or someone else involved that would permit the MEC to break up into N/S or E/W divisions...and to get there, you need to be at 14+. That could possibly be AB plus ????????
    Can be there in 11.5 hours if you leave now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stea1th View Post
    Can be there in 11.5 hours if you leave now.
    That's why I think it is either an unfounded rumor OR there are other shoes that will drop to make it make sense. As good (and bad) as UNCP has been and as much as they fit the philosophical and size profile of the MEC, it's just too hard to make the distance math work without something else happening.

    I note that Chowan just jumped from the CIAA to Conf Carolina except for Football and Bowling were they will remain an associate in the CIAA. UNCP is 3 hours from Chowan....and Salisbury State is 3 hours from Chowan. Far fetched but so is UNCP joining the MEC.

    MEC West

    (Ohio Panhandle Pod)
    Ashland
    NDC
    Urbana
    WLU
    WJU
    (Eastern WV/Western MD Pod)
    Fairmont
    Frostburg
    AB

    MEC East

    (Tobacco Pod)
    UNCP
    Chowan
    Salisbury
    (Mountain Top Pod)
    Concord
    Glenville
    WV Wesleyan
    Charleston
    WV State

    Seven in division games, one cross over game, one or two OOC games and a Championship game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stea1th View Post
    It also may play into Sportsnut's info that it was UNC-P for football and D&E coming for the rest of the sports (getting basketball back to 12)

    Who is hoping for the demise of the MEC?
    Basketball is far less dependent on a 12th for scheduling...with 11 teams each team plays 20 league games and 7 OOC games, with 12 teams each team plays 22 league and 5 OOC.

    As for people wishing for the demise of the MEC...There are those that actively advocate for NDC and Urbana to leave the MEC...These have been people who have mused that they "heard" that WJU was leaving and some have wondered when Concord was planning on leaving to join the SAC. There have been some that have proposed that the MEC and GMAC should merge and there have been some who have postulated that the MEC should take AB, D&E and Ohio Valley in exchange for NDC and Urbana and then wonder if the MEC should change it's name to the WVIAC.

    As for this particular rumor, I wouldn't be opposed if D&E wanted to be an associate member in say Acrobatics & Tumbling and say Swimming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    As for people wishing for the demise of the MEC...There are those that actively advocate for NDC and Urbana to leave the MEC...These have been people who have mused that they "heard" that WJU was leaving and some have wondered when Concord was planning on leaving to join the SAC. There have been some that have proposed that the MEC and GMAC should merge and there have been some who have postulated that the MEC should take AB, D&E and Ohio Valley in exchange for NDC and Urbana and then wonder if the MEC should change it's name to the WVIAC.

    As for this particular rumor, I wouldn't be opposed if D&E wanted to be an associate member in say Acrobatics & Tumbling and say Swimming.
    I've long stated that I think NDC likely ends up in the GMAC eventually. However, that is in no way linked to wishing for the demise of the MEC.

    As for WJU, I don't really remember folks saying that they were leaving on their own, but I do remember several times where folks on here gathered with torches and pitchforks - ready to kick WJU out of the MEC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stea1th View Post
    I've long stated that I think NDC likely ends up in the GMAC eventually. However, that is in no way linked to wishing for the demise of the MEC.

    As for WJU, I don't really remember folks saying that they were leaving on their own, but I do remember several times where folks on here gathered with torches and pitchforks - ready to kick WJU out of the MEC.
    That is true. Had to do with them not starting a football program as promised. They took care of that so we put our pitchforks away and all is now forgiven!

    The speculation about WJU laving the MEC and joining the GMAC was at the time they became associate members of the GMAC for men's lacrosse. Speculation at that time was that this was but the first step toward WJU eventually joining the MEC as a full member.

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    Feel me in here ... why would UNC Pembroke want to join the MEC? Eight of its games this year (football) are in the state of NC.

    What am I missing here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    It's 350+ miles and over 600 miles to NDC!!
    Here on the west coast, the GNAC conference, our closest home game this year is 600+ miles to HSU. Next year it will be 930 miles to Western Oregon. Don't even get us started on going to the distant schools in the conference. The closest D2 football school to us is Dixie State (RMAC) at a mere 360 miles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Librarian View Post
    Here on the west coast, the GNAC conference, our closest home game this year is 600+ miles to HSU. Next year it will be 930 miles to Western Oregon. Don't even get us started on going to the distant schools in the conference. The closest D2 football school to us is Dixie State (RMAC) at a mere 360 miles.
    I agree...Some teams here on the east coast are spoiled. They feel like it is an onerous condition that MUST be changed immediately and by any means necessary if they have to travel more than 100 miles to an away game!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Feel me in here ... why would UNC Pembroke want to join the MEC? Eight of its games this year (football) are in the state of NC.

    What am I missing here?
    Your missing a post on a consulting companies Twitter feed saying that UNCP was considering associate membership with the MEC for football, wrestling and swimming. Apparently one of that consulting company posts was right once so we're taking this new one as gospel.

    I don't think it makes much sense unless there are other schools in play that we don't yet know about.

    Other than that, you ain't missing a dag gone thing!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Your missing a post on a consulting companies Twitter feed saying that UNCP was considering associate membership with the MEC for football, wrestling and swimming. Apparently one of that consulting company posts was right once so we're taking this new one as gospel.
    BoatCapt, the last time this consulting firm posted, I think you pointed out that the former WVIAC commissioner works there, right?

    Overall, I tend to agree with you. That’s a heck of a geographic stretch (by eastern standards at least) unless it’s part of a a bigger plan.

    Interesting stuff.

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    I don't know who posted the Twitter post but I wouldnt be surprised if it was that consulting company.

    Just speculating that other teams unknown are involved because UNCP by themselves doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But hey, maybe they think they would have a better shot in SR1 than were they are now.

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    West Liberty has done done a home and home with Pembroke, a few years ago, other schools that WLU pkayed were Virginia State and Catawba, so that would lead me to believe the MEC would look south into Virginia and NC for other schools

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    Sorry, just finishing a growler from Wheeling Brew Keepers

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