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    Some great comments from Dustin Sleva on his way out the door after his tremendous career (article in The Slateonline.com):

    On IUP not recruiting him:

    “Every team I play I think, did they recruit me? No, so I’m going to play that game with a chip on my shoulder,” Sleva said. “I remember IUP [coaches] being at a high school game of mine and I think I had like six points. I didn’t play that well; the team was doubling me. I remember [SU coach Chris Fite] specifically saying, I know you didn’t score that much but I saw the way you played on defense and offense. You’re not going to have a good night every night. So, I remember that and the IUP coach never talked to me. I put that in my head.”


    On West Liberty:

    “West Liberty is another one of the schools, where I was 40 minutes away from them in Wheeling, so I put that in my head alright, they didn’t recruit me,” Sleva said. “I already had that chip on my shoulder and I always hear everybody talking so great about them in Pittsburgh because of the way they play and how they shoot the ball so I was thinking alright, whatever. So to completely demolish them and take their heart out of it — you could see their guys on the court not knowing what hit them — that game alone really made the year that we had.”

    On winning at West Chester and taunting the WCU band:

    “I don’t just do it for me (trash talk), I do it for my team,” Sleva said. “It sets the tone that we’re not coming in here to get punked by the crowd, or the band, I mean, who cares about their band? I had a fun time heckling them. It was our first time winning at West Chester and it’s such a hard place to win.”



    He'll be missed. Villains are good for business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Some great comments from Dustin Sleva on his way out the door after his tremendous career (article in The Slateonline.com):

    On IUP not recruiting him:

    “Every team I play I think, did they recruit me? No, so I’m going to play that game with a chip on my shoulder,” Sleva said. “I remember IUP [coaches] being at a high school game of mine and I think I had like six points. I didn’t play that well; the team was doubling me. I remember [SU coach Chris Fite] specifically saying, I know you didn’t score that much but I saw the way you played on defense and offense. You’re not going to have a good night every night. So, I remember that and the IUP coach never talked to me. I put that in my head.”


    On West Liberty:

    “West Liberty is another one of the schools, where I was 40 minutes away from them in Wheeling, so I put that in my head alright, they didn’t recruit me,” Sleva said. “I already had that chip on my shoulder and I always hear everybody talking so great about them in Pittsburgh because of the way they play and how they shoot the ball so I was thinking alright, whatever. So to completely demolish them and take their heart out of it — you could see their guys on the court not knowing what hit them — that game alone really made the year that we had.”

    On winning at West Chester and taunting the WCU band:

    “I don’t just do it for me (trash talk), I do it for my team,” Sleva said. “It sets the tone that we’re not coming in here to get punked by the crowd, or the band, I mean, who cares about their band? I had a fun time heckling them. It was our first time winning at West Chester and it’s such a hard place to win.”



    He'll be missed. Villains are good for business.
    He is a great player. If he taunted folks in high school, then he has probably answered his own question about why West Liberty did not recruit him.
    Otherwise, maybe he was not a good enough shooter at that time or as balanced in his fundamentals. Regardless, he turned out great. I wish him a long and successful career in Europe.

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    Good luck to Sliva. Hope he has many years reliving how everyone slited him and how he was a truely was a big deal.

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    I think he spent far too much time reading this board. I live in Western PA. Not a soul talks about West Liberty or D2 basketball minus us clowns.

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    It’s tough to feel sorry for a guy that’s a 6’8” bully. I’m sorry. He’s playing the victim, undersized, chip on his shoulder card.

    These are highly loaded questions and he’s just answering them. This is the same site that published an interview with Shawn Dyer after he was finished at IUP and was trashing West Liberty. It was the same approach. It’s not necessarily that Dyer said anything “wrong,” but he just answered the questions that they asked him.

    It’s minor league journalism at best. You don’t have any other story, so you ask the best player in the region about the blue blood programs in the area that didn’t recruit him.

    But yes, villains are in fact good for business.


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    He sounds like Christian Laettner. He has every right to speak his mind. Don't hate on an honest man.

    I agree with the above posters who said that villains are good for business. At least this guy had the talent to back things up like a Laettner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP CRIMSON HAWKS View Post
    He sounds like Christian Laettner. He has every right to speak his mind. Don't hate on an honest man.

    I agree with the above posters who said that villains are good for business. At least this guy had the talent to back things up like a Laettner.

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    I agree that it is ludicrous to dislike the guy for his comments. This country is based on respect for free speech (for how long I don't know).

    But in general, I am tired of the chip on the shoulder cliche that jocks use.
    Ever notice how they say they played with a chip on their shoulder only after they win? Shouldn't they have a chip on each shoulder to maintain their balance? :-)

    Just once, I would like to hear them say something like this: "I played with a chip on my shoulder because school X would not give me free Adidas shoes on my recruiting visit. But it didn't matter, because they still kicked my butt." Not going to happen.

    I cannot decide among Hollywood stars, media talking heads and jocks as to who (as a group) have the most limited logical reasoning skills using mindless mantra and cliches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbuseer View Post
    I agree that it is ludicrous to dislike the guy for his comments. This country is based on respect for free speech (for how long I don't know).

    But in general, I am tired of the chip on the shoulder cliche that jocks use.
    Ever notice how they say they played with a chip on their shoulder only after they win? Shouldn't they have a chip on each shoulder to maintain their balance? :-)

    Just once, I would like to hear them say something like this: "I played with a chip on my shoulder because school X would not give me free Adidas shoes on my recruiting visit. But it didn't matter, because they still kicked my butt." Not going to happen.

    I cannot decide among Hollywood stars, media talking heads and jocks as to who (as a group) have the most limited logical reasoning skills using mindless mantra and cliches.
    I was going to say that but you beat me to it. I've never heard a winning team coach say, "This is why we didn't recruit this kid. He is a loser."

    Although watching Texas head coach Tom Herman mock the Mizzou QB towards the end of the Texas win in the Texas Bowl might qualify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbuseer View Post
    I agree that it is ludicrous to dislike the guy for his comments. This country is based on respect for free speech (for how long I don't know).

    But in general, I am tired of the chip on the shoulder cliche that jocks use.
    Ever notice how they say they played with a chip on their shoulder only after they win? Shouldn't they have a chip on each shoulder to maintain their balance? :-)

    Just once, I would like to hear them say something like this: "I played with a chip on my shoulder because school X would not give me free Adidas shoes on my recruiting visit. But it didn't matter, because they still kicked my butt." Not going to happen.

    I cannot decide among Hollywood stars, media talking heads and jocks as to who (as a group) have the most limited logical reasoning skills using mindless mantra and cliches.
    It's not the all or nothing thing that people want to make it make it out to be. He has the right to say whatever he wants to...but I (and perhaps others) also have the right to dislike him for it. I also have the right to exercise MY right to free speech and call him dill-hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    It's not the all or nothing thing that people want to make it make it out to be. He has the right to say whatever he wants to...but I (and perhaps others) also have the right to dislike him for it. I also have the right to exercise MY right to free speech and call him dill-hole.
    I agree that you have that right. But you can dislike the message without disliking the person. People can be misinformed, immature, emotional rather than logical thinkers, or not aware of fallacious reasoning (which is understandable, since we are inundated with fallacious reasoning in the media and politics, such as the "moral equivalence" fallacy). These shortcomings make them an imperfect person but not a person to be demonized.

    I would disagree with the value of the name-calling. That is what is known as an "ad hominem" argument, which is to attack the person rather than refute the person's argument. It is fallacious reasoning and gives others the impression that it is a last resort response when one cannot refute the argument. In addition, name-calling can escalate emotionally and incite violence, which rarely ends well.

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    True...But this person "demonized" the schools that supposedly didn't give him the respect he felt he deserved coming out of HS. It's one thing to use a slight or a perceived slight as an internal motivator...Quite another to bring it up only AFTER you have beat those teams. Probably just me but I'd have had more respect for him if he had said before he played each of these team that he was seeking revenge on them for not recruiting him...Then let the chips fall were they may. Waiting until AFTER he wins seems like he was a bit scared that he might not win and would then have to bear the barbs from the other side.

    Same token, would it be OK for a coach to say after a season, "You know, we recruited Sleva out of High School and he wouldn't give us the time of the day. I had this game against him circled all year and used it as extra motivation to beat him." We'd probably call that coach immature and label his comments as bush league...and rightfully so.

    It's one thing to do some trash talking on the court during a game...Quite another to wait until the season (and your career) has been over for four months to brag. But hey, it is a free world and he can say what ever he wants when ever he wants to say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    True...But this person "demonized" the schools that supposedly didn't give him the respect he felt he deserved coming out of HS. It's one thing to use a slight or a perceived slight as an internal motivator...Quite another to bring it up only AFTER you have beat those teams. Probably just me but I'd have had more respect for him if he had said before he played each of these team that he was seeking revenge on them for not recruiting him...Then let the chips fall were they may. Waiting until AFTER he wins seems like he was a bit scared that he might not win and would then have to bear the barbs from the other side.

    Same token, would it be OK for a coach to say after a season, "You know, we recruited Sleva out of High School and he wouldn't give us the time of the day. I had this game against him circled all year and used it as extra motivation to beat him." We'd probably call that coach immature and label his comments as bush league...and rightfully so.

    It's one thing to do some trash talking on the court during a game...Quite another to wait until the season (and your career) has been over for four months to brag. But hey, it is a free world and he can say what ever he wants when ever he wants to say it.

    In fairness, again, he was just answering the questions. These were incredibly loaded questions. Like I said, this was the same site that conducted the infamous Shawn Dyer interview where he trashed West Liberty on his way out of IUP. And in that case too, those were loaded questions that he was just answering.

    I don’t disagree with what you’re saying. But to your point, these are D2 athletes. The microphone is hardly put in their face. Ever. He saw this as his chance to “tell his story,” regardless of how it made him look. Truth be told, with respect to his on-court demeanor, I don’t he really cares how anyone sees him.

    Getting back to my point though, again, these are D2 athletes. Most of these kids aren’t even interviewed after they play a game. At the Division 1 level, they put student athletes through classes on how to answer questions, what not to say, how to punt on answering a question, etc.

    I’m not saying I thought what he said was right or wrong. I believe he answered questions that were worded and designed in a way to get a few idiots talking. Mission accomplished.


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    He also always forgets to mention he went 2-2 against IUP in his career and was blown out of the gym in both losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    He also always forgets to mention he went 2-2 against IUP in his career and was blown out of the gym in both losses.
    Excellent point which highlights how illogical these cliches are. I wish you would have interviewed him!
    In the 2 losses he must have misplaced the chip for his shoulder!

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