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    Default 2018 nsic football preseason coaches' poll

    It's here.............

    Overall Points
    1. Minnesota State (15) ..................... 225
    2. Winona State (1)............................ 197
    3. Sioux Falls..................................... 195
    4. Minnesota Duluth.......................... 194
    5. Bemidji State ................................ 165
    6. Augustana ...................................... 148
    7. St. Cloud State............................... 133
    8. Northern State................................ 114
    9. Wayne State ................................... 111
    10. MSU Moorhead............................ 99
    11. Upper Iowa ................................... 96
    12. Southwest Minnesota State .......... 69
    13. Minot State ................................... 63
    14. Concordia-St. Paul........................ 62
    15. University of Mary ....................... 34
    16. Minnesota Crookston ................... 15

    North Division Points
    1. Minnesota Duluth (7) ..................... 49
    2. Bemidji State ................................. 42
    3. St. Cloud State (1) .......................... 33
    4. Northern State................................. 32
    5. MSU Moorhead.............................. 26
    6. Minot State ..................................... 20
    7. University of Mary ......................... 15
    8. Minnesota Crookston ...................... 7
    first place votes in ( )

    South Division Points
    1. Minnesota State (7) ........................49
    2. Winona State (1).............................43
    3. Sioux Falls......................................37
    4. Augustana .......................................28
    5. Wayne State ....................................25
    6. Upper Iowa .....................................18
    7. Concordia- St. Paul.........................14
    8. Southwest Minnesota State ............10

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    http://northernsun.org/news/2018/7/2...ches-poll.aspx

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    Ouch

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    Brief thoughts...

    No real surprises. I would think most of us expected something similar.
    USF, UMD, and WSU are all extremely tight after Kato. Even years are UMDs Kato/USF grind, while this year they'll get WSU.
    Personally, surprised to see Southwest that low and Wayne higher. And dead last behind CSP in the South picks, woof. But will be interesting to see how the middle to lower standings of the South play out this year. Lots of questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis Day View Post
    Brief thoughts...

    No real surprises. I would think most of us expected something similar.
    USF, UMD, and WSU are all extremely tight after Kato. Even years are UMDs Kato/USF grind, while this year they'll get WSU.
    Personally, surprised to see Southwest that low and Wayne higher. And dead last behind CSP in the South picks, woof. But will be interesting to see how the middle to lower standings of the South play out this year. Lots of questions.
    Seeing CSP ahead of us in the South but lower than us overall is interesting. Means the North must have higher opinions of the Mustangs than the South does....not too surprising, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanger86 View Post
    Seeing CSP ahead of us in the South but lower than us overall is interesting. Means the North must have higher opinions of the Mustangs than the South does....not too surprising, actually.
    It's been the exact same thing every single year, "if our defense is better." And it's not wrong, just hasn't happened. Not sure if there will every be a magic bullet.

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    My predictions weren’t too off after all! I feel coaches pick teams based off of last seasons record which to me I was shocked to see SMSU all the way at the bottom. To me SMSU going 2-9 is a fluke considering all of the injuries. I’m sure the players have already seen the polls and will be motivated to prove the pollsters wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanger86 View Post
    Ouch
    Ouch is right. Seems low to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laker View Post
    Ouch is right. Seems low to me.
    What do you expect when your whole staff, except HC, is new? Seen it before, or close to it, at SW.

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    Just out of curiousity...how close was last year’s poll to the actual season results?

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    2017 Preseason Poll
    Overall
    1. MSU
    2. UMD
    3. BSU
    4. Augie
    5. USF
    6. WSU
    7. MSUM
    8. SMSU
    9. NSU
    10. SCSU
    11. UIU
    12. WSC
    13. CSP
    14. Minot
    15. Mary
    16. UMC

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    Quote Originally Posted by FootballMom4 View Post
    Just out of curiousity...how close was last year’s poll to the actual season results?
    2017 Actual results
    Overall Standings. (-# or +#)
    1.MSU (✓)
    2. WSU (+5)
    T3. USF (+2) USF beat UMD
    T3. UMD (-1)
    5. BSU (-2)
    T6. NSU (+3) *beat SCSU and Wayne, lost to UIU*
    T6. WSC (+6) *Lost to NSU, beat UIU*
    T6. SCSU (+4) *lost to NSU*
    T6. UIU (+5) *Lost to NSU and WSC*
    10. MSUM (-3)
    11. Augie (-7)
    12. Minot (+2)
    T13. CSP (✓) *beat SMSU*
    T13. SMSU (-5) *lost to CSP*
    15. Mary (✓)
    16. UMC (✓)

    Keep in mind the NSIC has no tie breakers and due to that the preseason poll will be wrong on several teams because of same records.
    In short preseason polls are a crapshoot because of injuries, as always
    Last edited by zimmy21; 07-26-2018 at 06:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmy21 View Post
    2017 Actual results
    Overall Standings. (-# or +#)
    1.MSU (✓)
    2. WSU (+5)
    T3. USF (+2) USF beat UMD
    T3. UMD (-1)
    5. BSU (-2)
    T6. NSU (+3) *beat SCSU and Wayne, lost to UIU*
    T6. WSC (+6) *Lost to NSU, beat UIU*
    T6. SCSU (+4) *lost to NSU*
    T6. UIU (+5) *Lost to NSU and WSC*
    10. MSUM (-3)
    11. Augie (-7)
    12. Minot (+2)
    T13. CSP (✓) *beat SMSU*
    T13. SMSU (-5) *lost to CSP*
    15. Mary (✓)
    16. UMC (✓)

    Keep in mind the NSIC has no tie breakers and due to that the preseason poll will be wrong on several teams because of same records.
    In short preseason polls are a crapshoot because of injuries, as always
    Another way to break it down is to separate both the poll and the final results into tiers....

    For example.....

    1. Minnesota State (4) ....................... 213
    2. Minnesota Duluth (7) .................... 209
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    3. Bemidji State (2) ........................... 184
    4. Augustana (1) ................................ 172
    5. Sioux Falls (2) ............................... 171
    6. Winona State ................................. 165
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    7. MSU Moorhead............................. 137
    8. Southwest Minnesota State .......... 129
    9. Northern State ............................... 121
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    10. St. Cloud State ............................ 101
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    11. Upper Iowa .................................. 86
    12. Wayne State .................................. 81
    --------------------------------------------------------
    13. Concordia-St. Paul........................ 54
    14. Minot State .................................. 51
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    15. UMary .......................................... 29
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    16. Minnesota Crookston ................... 17

    Coaches were most wrong on SMSU and Augustana. For the most part, everything else ran pretty close to form. Other teams rose and fell, but it wasn't as drastic. Taking your standings above, here's how I would separate it....

    1.MSU (✓)
    ---------------------------
    2. WSU (+5)
    ---------------------------
    T3. USF (+2) USF beat UMD
    T3. UMD (-1)
    5. BSU (-2)
    -----------------------------
    T6. NSU (+3) *beat SCSU and Wayne, lost to UIU*
    T6. WSC (+6) *Lost to NSU, beat UIU*
    T6. SCSU (+4) *lost to NSU*
    T6. UIU (+5) *Lost to NSU and WSC*
    10. MSUM (-3)
    -----------------------------
    11. Augie (-7)
    ----------------------------
    12. Minot (+2)
    T13. CSP (✓) *beat SMSU*
    T13. SMSU (-5) *lost to CSP*
    -------------------------------
    15. Mary (✓)
    -------------------------------
    16. UMC (✓)

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    Thank-you! I am a stats geek. This made my night! I see an excel spreadsheet forming in my mind!

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