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    No longer have to have football to be member. Newman can become a full member.

    http://themiaa.com/news/2018/6/17/ge...-athletes.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy View Post
    No longer have to have football to be member. Newman can become a full member.

    http://themiaa.com/news/2018/6/17/ge...-athletes.aspx

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    Football no longer required, but all new members must have a bowling team.

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    With the no football requirement and given their locations, I wonder if Rockhurst (KC) and Drury (Springfield, MO) might be the next schools to apply for MIAA membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shanghai Mule View Post
    With the no football requirement and given their locations, I wonder if Rockhurst (KC) and Drury (Springfield, MO) might be the next schools to apply for MIAA membership.
    From a competitive standpoint, Drury brings a lot more to the table than Rockhurst; Drury finished 3rd out of 14 teams in the GLVC's all-sports trophy standings, while Rockhurst finished 12th. In the GLVC's Commissioner's Cup standings (which takes the results of the league's seven core sports: men's/women's soccer, volleyball, men's/women's basketball, softball and baseball, Drury finished 4th while Rockhurst finished 9th.

    Take that for what it's worth...
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    Speaking of football:

    "The Football Task Force, which consisted of CEO’s, AD’s, Coaches, and FAR’s from MIAA member schools was created to study critical issues facing the Association and the sport of intercollegiate football.

    The Football Task Force, chaired by Pittsburg State Universty President Steve Scott, brought forth several recommendations approved by the CEO Council, including the development of regular season scheduling models beginning in 2020 for MIAA Football membership that could range from 10 to 14 institutions."
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    10 teams: 9 game round robin with 2 non-con
    12: Status quo
    14: Two, 7-team divisions? 6 games against division + 3 against other division, and 2 non-con? Seems like a pain in the rear to schedule. Used to have that “pod” format which was set up similarly to this I believe. We played Jewell, SD-Mines, in non-con that I can remember.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Erbert View Post
    10 teams: 9 game round robin with 2 non-con
    12: Status quo
    14: Two, 7-team divisions? 6 games against division + 3 against other division, and 2 non-con? Seems like a pain in the rear to schedule. Used to have that “pod” format which was set up similarly to this I believe. We played Jewell, SD-Mines, in non-con that I can remember.


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    Which tells me that the MIAA is expecting to lose another football school or they might be adding football schools. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but I'm just sitting here in the "other" Pittsburgh, so what do I know? lol
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    I don't care how it looks as long as there are two non-conference games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrabs74 View Post
    Which tells me that the MIAA is expecting to lose another football school or they might be adding football schools. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but I'm just sitting here in the "other" Pittsburgh, so what do I know? lol
    I don't think it implies anything. Just that they are prepared whatever the future holds. 14 conference teams playing football would be a j-o-k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxman View Post
    I don't think it implies anything. Just that they are prepared whatever the future holds. 14 conference teams playing football would be a j-o-k.
    Could mean they are expecting LU to try a jump to the GLVC... which I would friggin hate.

    It makes more sense for them to be in the GLVC in every facet except my feelings. The more and more I read the tea leaves, the more I think it's going to eventually happen.

    With what Stugart is building at LU, they have a chance to become a perennial power in the GLVC. Will that ever translate into being competitive on a national stage though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon View Post
    I don't care how it looks as long as there are two non-conference games.

    There are twelve football schools and they all play each other for an eleven game MIAA schedule. To have two-non conference games and still play everybody in the MIAA we would have to drop back to ten football schools for a nine game MIAA schedule. We all like the idea of two non-conference games, but which two football schools are going to leave the MIAA?

    I'm not a fan of adding more football schools to the MIAA and then not getting a chance to play everyone in the conference. I like the fact that we crown a true champion because everybody plays everybody. I would not want to give that up just so we could have a non-conference game or two.

    In addition, we would also have to find other conferences that have room in their schedules for non-conference games. So, that makes it even more complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulas View Post
    There are twelve football schools and they all play each other for an eleven game MIAA schedule. To have two-non conference games and still play everybody in the MIAA we would have to drop back to ten football schools for a nine game MIAA schedule. We all like the idea of two non-conference games, but which two football schools are going to leave the MIAA?
    I don't care how many they add or subtract, I just like two non-con games.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mulas View Post
    I'm not a fan of adding more football schools to the MIAA and then not getting a chance to play everyone in the conference. I like the fact that we crown a true champion because everybody plays everybody. I would not want to give that up just so we could have a non-conference game or two.
    I couldn't care less about a round robin schedule. I just don't. Just an opinion and not being critical of you for wanting that. I'd give that up in half a second it if meant some diversity in scheduling. Playing the same teams every year is boring. Around the country, non-conference games are some of the most exciting.

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    In addition, we would also have to find other conferences that have room in their schedules for non-conference games. So, that makes it even more complicated.
    The only reason the NSIC went to the conference-only scheduling model was out of a reaction to the MIAA. This trend is the MIAA's fault and it's stupid. It's one of the best conferences in the country in the center of the country with easy trips against the GLVC, NSIC, GAC, RMAC, and even the LSC and instead it chose to try to isolate everyone.

    This is how it should be done....

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    I guess the MIAA commissioner would have to start by polling each MIAA school's athletic director and coach to find out the level of interest in non-conference games. Then if the interest level is high enough the commissioner would need to contact the commissioners from the other surrounding conferences to gauge their interest. Brandon, do you think the MIAA athletic directors and coaches want to change the system and allow for non-conference games? I mean, we all want it, but do they? Do you have any hard information either way or what's your best educated guess?

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    Wouldn't it be awesome if Newman and not Wichita St. brought football back to the Wichita area. It's kind of crazy that Wichita has 2 NCAA schools and is fairly well recruited for football talent doesnt have a team.

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    From a fan perspective and comparing conferences, non-conference games are great. However, as has been mentioned, it doesn't matter who started it but more and more conferences are doing conference-only scheduling. There just aren't as many options to schedule for non-conference games.

    Additionally, from NW perspective, it was getting harder and harder to find non-conference games because no one wanted to take the game because they knew it was a likely loss. NW was paying significantly more than most teams to schedule those home non-conference games just to get people to come to Maryville. With budgets the way they are at NW (and many other public schools in the conference) it isn't realistic to have those kind of payouts to get the non-conference games. You can still do it but then it starts eating into recruiting budgets and other areas that may impact the success of the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulas View Post
    I guess the MIAA commissioner would have to start by polling each MIAA school's athletic director and coach to find out the level of interest in non-conference games. Then if the interest level is high enough the commissioner would need to contact the commissioners from the other surrounding conferences to gauge their interest. Brandon, do you think the MIAA athletic directors and coaches want to change the system and allow for non-conference games? I mean, we all want it, but do they? Do you have any hard information either way or what's your best educated guess?
    i ain't b but i would imagine ad's like it. it provides scheduling & budgeting certainty.

    i can't imagine there are any fans that wouldn't prefer a ten team league w/ 2 noncons.

    10+ schools where you dump the rr scheduling in the interest of noncons devalues the league title & creates a possible scenario where 2 teams could go undefeated & share it unnecessarily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northwest missouri state View Post
    i ain't b but i would imagine ad's like it. it provides scheduling & budgeting certainty.

    i can't imagine there are any fans that wouldn't prefer a ten team league w/ 2 noncons.

    10+ schools where you dump the rr scheduling in the interest of noncons devalues the league title & creates a possible scenario where 2 teams could go undefeated & share it unnecessarily.
    2 non-conference games? Heck yeah. That might gives us a chance to win one game!

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    If the MIAA brought back non-con I would want to play Chadron State and Wayne State. If anyone were to leave I think most realistically would be Lindenwood, think they like it here, or the UCO or NSU, and both of them already leave the GAC/Lone Star? So don't really see it happening again so soon. I could be wrong though.
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