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    Quote Originally Posted by alumnifan View Post
    Why do you have a disdain for a former SEC and NFL player being the Head Coach at KWC. Can't we dream a little after all of these years of getting slaughtered? And, that coach has already recruited well. Wesleyan will probably win 5 games this season. That will be an improvement. If they really get tough, they might win six. I don't blast you. Why are you nit picking my posts when I just want to see a KWC football team become competitive. You know we have not had the best records in the past, but we have a good Director of Athletics who made a good hire. And, Craig Yeast is a good hire and a good person. He will befriend all of the coaches in the G-MAC that he can, and represent KWC with class.

    Keep betting against him and running him down. That will motivate him. As a 57 year old alum. I am going to attend every home game I can. I am actually looking forward to a KWC football season. Look, I am not going to be a smart AZZ anymore. That was when I was angry. I am not angry anymore. I have to get right with the Lord, because I don't know how much longer I have to live, but I am thankful that God has seen me through these many years, and I hope for some more with some good experiences. Peace!
    I don't know how long you've been backing the PANTHERS, but please understand NOTHING that has been said about COACH YEAST is personal ! Everyone on this thread has spoken about actual factors that may or may not result in KWC dramatically improving their football program. I believe I speak for others when I say his success or failure has nothing to do with his personal qualities. We've all seen really good men who were horrible coaches and awful SOBs who were very successful.
    Four problems with doing a 180° in college sports.
    Quality is much more important than quantity in recruiting. In most successful programs 60-70 decent players will take you a long way. Beyond that you have a practice squad.
    Success as a player isn't really an indicator of coaching success. Frequently the player who stands next to the coach for four years has much more success in that field, than the star of the team.
    As strong as some parts of Kentucky may be in HS football they are not Ohio or Pennsylvania.
    Money is very hard to come by in the D2 world. Those who know me understand that as a follower of CAL U I suffered through decades of disappointment until someone came along and threw unreal buckets of $$ at athletics, and bent more than a few rules, in order to get the VULCANS back into the mix. Got him fired for his efforts. Church related schools are at a great disadvantage.
    Hope COACH YEAST and the KWC PANTHERS get it going this year but try to be patient and realistic. Time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALUPA69 View Post
    I don't know how long you've been backing the PANTHERS, but please understand NOTHING that has been said about COACH YEAST is personal ! Everyone on this thread has spoken about actual factors that may or may not result in KWC dramatically improving their football program. I believe I speak for others when I say his success or failure has nothing to do with his personal qualities. We've all seen really good men who were horrible coaches and awful SOBs who were very successful.
    Four problems with doing a 180° in college sports.
    Quality is much more important than quantity in recruiting. In most successful programs 60-70 decent players will take you a long way. Beyond that you have a practice squad.
    Success as a player isn't really an indicator of coaching success. Frequently the player who stands next to the coach for four years has much more success in that field, than the star of the team.
    As strong as some parts of Kentucky may be in HS football they are not Ohio or Pennsylvania.
    Money is very hard to come by in the D2 world. Those who know me understand that as a follower of CAL U I suffered through decades of disappointment until someone came along and threw unreal buckets of $$ at athletics, and bent more than a few rules, in order to get the VULCANS back into the mix. Got him fired for his efforts. Church related schools are at a great disadvantage.
    Hope COACH YEAST and the KWC PANTHERS get it going this year but try to be patient and realistic. Time will tell.
    I agree with your post, 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alumnifan View Post
    Why do you have a disdain for a former SEC and NFL player being the Head Coach at KWC. Can't we dream a little after all of these years of getting slaughtered? And, that coach has already recruited well. Wesleyan will probably win 5 games this season. That will be an improvement. If they really get tough, they might win six. I don't blast you. Why are you nit picking my posts when I just want to see a KWC football team become competitive. You know we have not had the best records in the past, but we have a good Director of Athletics who made a good hire. And, Craig Yeast is a good hire and a good person. He will befriend all of the coaches in the G-MAC that he can, and represent KWC with class.

    Keep betting against him and running him down. That will motivate him. As a 57 year old alum. I am going to attend every home game I can. I am actually looking forward to a KWC football season. Look, I am not going to be a smart AZZ anymore. That was when I was angry. I am not angry anymore. I have to get right with the Lord, because I don't know how much longer I have to live, but I am thankful that God has seen me through these many years, and I hope for some more with some good experiences. Peace!
    I don't have distain for Yeast and you certainly can dream of great success. Afterall, that is what homers do...They lead with their heart and believe every move by their new HC will be perfect, every recruit will become an All-American their first year, new fans will come in droves and numerous NC's will soon be gracing the schools trophy case. Happens to millions of sports fans every year so you are no different in that respect!

    I don't know much about Yeast other than what I've recently read. But he seems like a fine hire for KWC. He has a good pedigree and seems to be a marked improvement over the previous guy(s). But reputation and pedigree only get you so far. IF he is capable of IDing and recruiting top tier DII level recruits and then put together a coaching staff that can take these recruits and make them better, he will have a good chance at turning the program around...If he can't, he won't.

    While it wouldn't be unheard of for a new HC to turn a bad program into a winner overnight, the typical reality is that turning a program takes at least a few years. I wish him luck and success in the short term and long.

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    You got one thing right for sure. I lead with my heart, especially at my age and at this point in my life. I am not going to criticize any coach, player, or team. It does me no good to do that anymore. I just want to be a proud member of the alumni and I have been a fan of Kentucky Wesleyan since I was in Junior High. KWC held the Regional Speech festival there, and from there I went to state and got a Superior Rating in story telling at UK. Funny thing is, I don't really care about UK athletics anymore.

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    And, my father's first name was Homer. So, thank you, boatcapt! He was a good man and a decorated Korean War Purple Heart Veteran.

    Let's everybody get angry if a former student, supporter, alum, and a Homer gets excited a little about his alma mater. I like the direction Kentucky Wesleyan is going in this season in several ways, not just in football, but as an institution. The former president did some outstanding work, the institution is on solid financial ground. Could be better, could be worse. Good lord if a lot of people hates the coach before he ever plays his first game, something good is bound to happen. The skill set is going to improve, like it or not.
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    I just remembered this. Craig Yeast has extensive football knowledge. He also played in the Canadian Football League as well. You can read his full bio at this link.

    Coach Craig Yeast Bio Link: https://kwcpanthers.com/staff.aspx?staff=277

    He held what I believe was a 14 High School Team Jamboree at Kentucky Wesleyan recently and I talked with one of the high school coaches, and he was amazed that the college could pull this off. He was really impressed with the way the college ran this event, and he has been a high school football coach for 25 years. Kentucky Wesleyan set up, I think, six other fields on campus in order to have every team playing at the same time in this huge Jamboree that brought in hundreds and hundreds of high school football players for this event, maybe over a 1,000. There is room on campus to mark off six other fields, but just to do that was a remarkable feat. The coaches were enthralled with Coach Yeast's knowledge of the game and him being able to pull this off. Of course, all hands were on deck at KWC for this event. Read his bio link at the top of this post. He is going to do well. The kids that participated in this jamboree loved him and loved the event. I just think that D2 football is going to be his bread and butter for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alumnifan View Post
    And, my father's first name was Homer. So, thank you, boatcapt! He was a good man and a decorated Korean War Purple Heart Veteran.

    Let's everybody get angry if a former student, supporter, alum, and a Homer gets excited a little about his alma mater. I like the direction Kentucky Wesleyan is going in this season in several ways, not just in football, but as an institution. The former president did some outstanding work, the institution is on solid financial ground. Could be better, could be worse. Good lord if a lot of people hates the coach before he ever plays his first game, something good is bound to happen. The skill set is going to improve, like it or not.
    Don't think anyone "hates" the coach although I could have missed that. Most of the post's I've read have indicated that most think he is a fine hire. Just because they disagree with you're assessment that he is the second coming of Nick Saben doesn't mean that they hate him.

    Given were KWC has been, he will have a lot of opportunity to improve.

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    I never said he was the second coming of Nick Saban. That is a ridiculous statement to make. Here is his bio, and he has already made an impact on many high school players. He is going to be a great recruiter.

    Craig Yeast was named the Head Football Coach at Kentucky Wesleyan College on December 3rd, 2018. Yeast, a former National Football League (NFL) player and All-Southeastern Conference (SEC) wide receiver at the University of Kentucky, will serve as the program's 17th head coach in 58 seasons of program history (1907-30/1983-present).

    Yeast comes to Wesleyan after three years at Franklin College in Indiana where he served as the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. The Grizzlies produced the most prolific offense in NCAA Division III over the past three seasons. Yeast balanced the offense in 2018 as the Grizzlies averaged 225 rushing and 333 passing yards per game.

    In 2017, the Grizzly offense lead the Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference (HCAC) in yards per game (564.5), total passing yards (4,478), total offense (6,210 yards) and scoring (48.6 points per game). Nationally, Franklin's offense finished Top 5 NCAA Division III in Total Offense (1st - 564.5 YPG) Passing Offense (1st – 407.1 YPG) and Scoring Offense (4th – 48.6 PPG).

    Yeast spent three years (2012-2014) as wide receivers coach at NCAA Division II Tiffin University (Ohio). Under Yeast's guidance, the Dragons receiving corps finished the season with three receivers named to the 2012 All-GLIAC Team, four receivers with at least 40 receptions for the season, and amassed over 2,700 yards in a single season as a group.

    From 2014-2016, Yeast served as the Head Football Coach at Fremont Ross High School outside of Toledo, Ohio. In addition to his coaching duties, Yeast was also the school's Special Education teacher.

    Yeast was a wide receiver with the New York Jets in the NFL after being drafted in the fourth round by the Cincinnati Bengals in 1999. Yeast also played four professional seasons with the Hamilton Tiger Cats (2003-2006) of the Canadian Football League

    He concluded his collegiate career with the most receptions (208) in SEC history and still ranks inside the conference's all-time leaders in receiving yards (9th), catches (5th), and touchdowns (8th). Yeast still ranks as Kentucky's all-time receiver with 208 catches, 2,899 receiving yards, and 28 touchdowns in a career.

    He earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in sport management from Midway College (2011) and a Masters degree in education from Tiffin (2013).

    Yeast and his wife Tori have been married for 19 years with two children, 19-year-old Craig II "Russ", and 16-year-old Kiyah.
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    One thing we know about Craig Yeast is his team will score points. That fact itself will help fill the seats at Steele Stadium and it could become a very difficult stadium to win a D2 football game. His offense is going to be exciting. Assistant Head Coach Mell Mills, along with Tyrone Young, Dwight Sutton, and Glen Rowell will be responsible for stopping the other teams from scoring. Yeast will have nine other coaches helping him win football games. A complete list of the coaching staff can be found at the link below:
    https://kwcpanthers.com/coaches.aspx?roster=237

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Don't think anyone "hates" the coach although I could have missed that. Most of the post's I've read have indicated that most think he is a fine hire. Just because they disagree with you're assessment that he is the second coming of Nick Saben doesn't mean that they hate him.

    Given were KWC has been, he will have a lot of opportunity to improve.
    Agree with you Boat 1000%. NOBODY hates the coach. We all just not going to declare that KWC WILL be a winning program overnight. We all may "hope" or "wish", but we will not just declare how great they are going to be, not because he played SEC/NFL/CFL football and has directed some high scoring offenses at the D-III level. All we want to do is play the "wait and see", and I know that is fair to do. What did Charlie Weiss "experience" with the Patriots do for him at University of Kansas? All we want to do is just wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alumnifan View Post
    I never said he was the second coming of Nick Saban. That is a ridiculous statement to make.
    You didn't call Saban by name but in one single post, you did say:

    Quote Originally Posted by alumnifan View Post
    Craig Yeast:

    1. Was a brilliant player in the SEC for the University of Kentucky.
    2. Will put thousands of people in the stands over the course of his tenure.
    3. In terms of recruiting good players, what kid would not want to play for him?
    4. He can get the best D2 players in Kentucky - For Sure.
    5. Is just a great guy and a professional. He carries himself as a pro.
    6. Will become and outstanding Head College Coach and becomes a LEGEND like Roy Kidd did at EKU.
    7. Has all the charisma a coach needs.
    8. Women will love him.
    9. Mothers will love him and Owensboro him.
    10. I love him already.
    11. Is going to be an ambassador for D2 Football not just for the G-MAC, but for the entire Midwest and portions of the Southeast.
    12. Will have a coaching staff devoted to him,
    13. Players will be devoted to him.
    14. Alumni are going to be devoted to him.
    15. Is going to bring in all kinds of spectators and visitors to Steele Stadium.
    16. Every kid in Owensboro who loves football will want to be around him.
    17. There is no down side to Coach Craig Yeast.
    18. The kids in Owensboro will love him.
    19. kids all over Kentucky will love him.
    Only thing missing is a halo and the pronouncements that he can heal the sick and make the blind see!!!!

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    You really took liberty to misquote a lot of what I said, and I am not going to break down every detail. Obviously, you don't like Craig Yeast for some reason. And, that is your privilege. I will pass the message along to him right here. He was a brilliant player for UK. There are only two D2 football teams in Kentucky, and Wesleyan as of late is the best of the two. And, I said I hope he becomes a legend like Roy Kidd. His coaching staff is filled out with solid men. Those other nine coaches are going to help him win. Look, you can take this up with the Athletic Director at KWC, or maybe you have already had a run in with the Director of Athletics at KWC. I'm glad he is the head coach now. We have had enough losing in the past. He is going to turn around the program, and I look for them to win five games this season. That will be a good start. And, I will stand by everything I said in my previous posts.

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    I dont particularly care about KWC or Coach Yeast. I've said, repeatedly, that I think he is fine and will be a step up from the previous HC at KWC. My only issue, and again, I dont really care a whole lot, is the over the top adulation you have heaped on him.

    As for "missquots", I pulled them directly from one previous post by you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    I dont particularly care about KWC or Coach Yeast. I've said, repeatedly, that I think he is fine and will be a step up from the previous HC at KWC. My only issue, and again, I dont really care a whole lot, is the over the top adulation you have heaped on him.

    As for "missquots", I pulled them directly from one previous post by you.
    Uh, BC, you may want to back away....slowly. This is going nowhere.

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    The Panthers are in Day 6 of their football camp. An article is published for each day in camp. This is the latest, but you can go back to day one. I LOVE THIS! LOL! We're getting a view of the camp and an article on the KWC Athletic Website for every day. BTW, the Sports Information Department has always been great. There is going to be a vast improvement in the program and there are people behind the scenes that are making this happen. And, they know what they are doing. I have never seen this kind of coverage for a preseason football camp at Wesleyan. There are hundreds and hundreds of photos uploaded of the Camp. This builds esteem and a devotion to the team from the players. It is classy, I think. I LOVE IT!

    KWC Panthers Camp Article Link to Day 6: https://kwcpanthers.com/news/2019/8/...les-day-6.aspx
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    Quote Originally Posted by alumnifan View Post
    The Panthers are in Day 6 of their football camp. An article is published for each day in camp. This is the latest, but you can go back to day one. I LOVE THIS! LOL! We're getting a view of the camp and an article on the KWC Athletic Website for every day. BTW, the Sports Information Department has always been great. There is going to be a vast improvement in the program and there are people behind the scenes that are making this happen. And, they know what they are doing. I have never seen this kind of coverage for a preseason football camp at Wesleyan. There are hundreds and hundreds of photos uploaded of the Camp. This builds esteem and a devotion to the team from the players. It is classy, I think. I LOVE IT!

    KWC Panthers Camp Article Link to Day 6: https://kwcpanthers.com/news/2019/8/...les-day-6.aspx
    OKAAAY.... thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALUPA69 View Post
    Uh, BC, you may want to back away....slowly. This is going nowhere.
    Yea...I think you are right. He seems to be intent on believing that Yeast is going to be GREAT and a surefire DII LEGEND and that thousands of new fans are going to pack their stadium. He also seems to be intent on believing that if you don't completely agree with him, you are just a Yeast hater that want's to see him fail.

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