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    Default Millersville Football...back to the stone ages?

    What the heck happened there? Anyone know what's going on?
    Breitbach seemed like he had the team on the right track. Why did AD Gallagher decide to cut him loose AFTER the recruiting period?
    From what I recall, the last HC at Millersville exited ( on his own , though) in Feb or March of '13. They then brought Breitbach in.
    Millersville has an "acting HC" taking the team through spring ball. The AD is quoted as saying they're on a national search for a new coach.
    Someone needs to give Gallagher a clue. You don't start a national search in March. You do that in November. You have a HC who's made more strides in 5 years, than the previous 10.
    Again, no HC as of yet....what are recruits going to do? Wait until Gallagher gets Meyer or Saban? Ain't happening.
    Looking at the coaching roster, there is no offensive guy right now...or at least not one who can judge say, the QB situation. What offense will they run? What will they be running in Sept.
    Gallagher has just set Millersville football back to the stone ages....ok..well if not, at least 10 years. He may change his mind when booster money dries up.!!

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    Yeah, this should have been done in Nov or Dec. Wow. I guess this spring practice will be a little disappointing.

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    The timing makes me wonder if there's more to the story.

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    well, that's kind of my point.......why this AD is prolonging this process is beyond comprehension. They've already finished spring ball and still no word.
    Recruits on the bubble, players pondering a move to another school...even assistant coaches wondering if their jobs are safe.
    If I was a player or a parent of a prospect, I'd tell them "don't call me, I'll call you". I see nothing positive coming out of this, not to mention the potential for long term damage and reputation.
    It'll be interesting, to say the least

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    Quote Originally Posted by QBWR View Post
    well, that's kind of my point.......why this AD is prolonging this process is beyond comprehension. They've already finished spring ball and still no word.
    Recruits on the bubble, players pondering a move to another school...even assistant coaches wondering if their jobs are safe.
    If I was a player or a parent of a prospect, I'd tell them "don't call me, I'll call you". I see nothing positive coming out of this, not to mention the potential for long term damage and reputation.
    It'll be interesting, to say the least
    Unfortunately this doesn't work like FBS jobs where the AD calls someone says, "We'd like you to take this job" and the guy calls him back the next day with an answer.

    Its a union job so there's a lengthy drawn-out process that by way of the CBA must take place:
    1. Search committee formed
    2. Search committee agrees on the job listing
    3. Job is advertised
    4. Search committee starts to review resumes ONLY after the published deadline is passed
    5. Search committee agrees on semi-finalists to Skype or phone interview
    6. Skype interviews
    7. Search committee agrees on finalists for campus interviews
    8. Campus interviews
    9. Search committee makes a recommendation to the AD
    10. Job offer

    Online the application deadline was March 29 so we're probably on Step 4.

    Either Breitbach was reassigned or something personal is going on and he can't do the job any longer. Without termination those are the only likely scenarios I can think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fightingscot82 View Post
    Unfortunately this doesn't work like FBS jobs where the AD calls someone says, "We'd like you to take this job" and the guy calls him back the next day with an answer.

    Its a union job so there's a lengthy drawn-out process that by way of the CBA must take place:
    1. Search committee formed
    2. Search committee agrees on the job listing
    3. Job is advertised
    4. Search committee starts to review resumes ONLY after the published deadline is passed
    5. Search committee agrees on semi-finalists to Skype or phone interview
    6. Skype interviews
    7. Search committee agrees on finalists for campus interviews
    8. Campus interviews
    9. Search committee makes a recommendation to the AD
    10. Job offer

    Online the application deadline was March 29 so we're probably on Step 4.

    Either Breitbach was reassigned or something personal is going on and he can't do the job any longer. Without termination those are the only likely scenarios I can think of.
    thanks for the informative answer.

    According to the local press release (Lancaster) and the school's website, Breitbach, was in fact, "reasigned".

    Based on your response, it further demonstrates how poorly this whole process has been handled. So, if all of the above goes as scheduled, you're looking at a new coach not on campus until sometime in (possibly) May????? That's not counting their first few choices declining for one reason or another (pay, contract length) to the "sorry you took too long, I'm already hired at _____ State Univ."

    I can see Gallagher's press conference: " after a long and exhaustive search, we will be introducing the new head coach. He will be here in time for Homecoming".....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I think Breitbach can do his job. I think it's the AD who can't do his job any longer.

    what a complete debacle

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    ok .....after looking/Googling/searching I found this tucked away deep in the Millersville.edu website. The following is an update to what I found the other day

    http://blogs.millersville.edu/villed...april-17-2018/

    after clicking that, scroll to coaches candidate forum. The other day, it listed Frostburg State's HC, DeLane Fitzgerald, as Tuesday April 17th's coaching candidate, but I guess he dropped out....or maybe he met with Gallagher and decided he'd rather work at Walmart.

    I'm a bit curious as to why this whole process has been shrouded in secrecy. Anyone?????

    I think the obvious choice will be Folmar, but can Millersville afford him....and his staff?
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    Coach Morgan has interviewed previously for the Millersville job, if Folmar isn't affordable they'd be wise to hop on him as he has recruiting contacts in the 717 area code as well as Southeastern PA region, he has done a great job recruiting at Ship and would be a great choice for Millersville.

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    Are we talking about Drew Folmar? I don’t see him having any interest. Another good year at Elon and he will be in line be for a FCS head coaching job or an FBS coordinator position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloom Burger View Post
    Are we talking about Drew Folmar? I don’t see him having any interest. Another good year at Elon and he will be in line be for a FCS head coaching job or an FBS coordinator position.
    I completely agree. I think the chance to HC at your alma mater, is far outweighed by the brutal PSAC West schedule they have, the roughly 2 months they have to prepare before camp starts, with no knowledge of any of the players, assembling a staff etc... yikes....frightening. I'd stay with Elon and the fruits that success there, will bring.

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    You have to admit, that's a pretty solid group of finalists.

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    Any word yet on who they offered the job to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoroLetterman View Post
    Any word yet on who they offered the job to?
    I've been snooping as much as I can, yet I haven't heard anything. Although one booster mentioned others ( other boosters and a number of people who had committed to financial support)
    are none too pleased with the change or how the admin and AD handled everything. We'll see if money does in fact, change everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QBWR View Post
    ok .....after looking/Googling/searching I found this tucked away deep in the Millersville.edu website. The following is an update to what I found the other day

    http://blogs.millersville.edu/villed...april-17-2018/

    after clicking that, scroll to coaches candidate forum. The other day, it listed Frostburg State's HC, DeLane Fitzgerald, as Tuesday April 17th's coaching candidate, but I guess he dropped out....or maybe he met with Gallagher and decided he'd rather work at Walmart.

    I'm a bit curious as to why this whole process has been shrouded in secrecy. Anyone?????

    I think the obvious choice will be Folmar, but can Millersville afford him....and his staff?
    Wonder why he dropped out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QBWR View Post
    I've been snooping as much as I can, yet I haven't heard anything. Although one booster mentioned others ( other boosters and a number of people who had committed to financial support)
    are none too pleased with the change or how the admin and AD handled everything. We'll see if money does in fact, change everything.
    Maybe just wait for fall camp .... goodness. Great for recruiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QBWR View Post
    I completely agree. I think the chance to HC at your alma mater, is far outweighed by the brutal PSAC West schedule they have, the roughly 2 months they have to prepare before camp starts, with no knowledge of any of the players, assembling a staff etc... yikes....frightening. I'd stay with Elon and the fruits that success there, will bring.
    Do you really think that one season's crossover schedule is the make-or-break factor in taking the Millersville job? That might be the most uneducated response I have ever read on this forum...

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    It's likely more the fact that it's a big risk. If you're going to be a hot candidate for jobs in the near future ... you only stay 'hot' for so long. Taking a relative 'dumpster fire' job -- where you may or may not do well -- is a huge risk. As a candidate you also have to look at how Millersville has handled this search. Is that something you really want to dive in to?

    There's only so many programs in the extremely uneven playing field of the PSAC that can actually do well. With some occasional exceptions, it's no coincidence it's the same teams doing well year after year. It's not like the traditional bottom feeders always hire bad coaches. Most were strong candidates when they took the job. Urban Meyer could take the Lock Haven job and it wouldn't make a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    It's likely more the fact that it's a big risk. If you're going to be a hot candidate for jobs in the near future ... you only stay 'hot' for so long. Taking a relative 'dumpster fire' job -- where you may or may not do well -- is a huge risk. As a candidate you also have to look at how Millersville has handled this search. Is that something you really want to dive in to?

    There's only so many programs in the extremely uneven playing field of the PSAC that can actually do well. With some occasional exceptions, it's no coincidence it's the same teams doing well year after year. It's not like the traditional bottom feeders always hire bad coaches. Most were strong candidates when they took the job. Urban Meyer could take the Lock Haven job and it wouldn't make a difference.
    Your tone suggests that they've mishandled the search. If you think so, how did you arrive at that conclusion? The amount of time it takes to conduct a search is the fault of the CBA and the union not the individual universities. Managers can only do a unilateral hire for qualified internal candidates with university president approval. Its literally spelled out that a search committee must be formed and they must approve the job description before its advertised, must be advertised for XX days before you review resumes, etc. It does drag out the process but at some point the coaches themselves bargained for that process and got it. The Millersville AD doesn't have the autonomy to be like Heather Lyke and offer the job to her pet list of coaches.

    If you're talking about timing, we don't know the full story. We don't know what caused Breitbach to change responsibilities. It could be a personal life issue that required immediate change. If that's the case its not fair to blame anyone.

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    It's the end of April. How long have they been without an official (not interim) head coach now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    It's the end of April. How long have they been without an official (not interim) head coach now?
    Its been two months. But we can't say whose fault it is. Remember, the coaches bargained for a really inefficient committee-driven process.

    http://www.d2messageboard.com/showth...65#post2200465

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