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    I know there has been some discussion in other posts about the GLVC tournament and selection process. I just saw the GLVC released this today about how the selections will be made for the eight team tournament in March:

    http://www.glvcsports.com/news/2018/...ournament.aspx

    Point Rating System (as of Jan. 3): MEN | WOMEN

    GLVC POINT RATING SYSTEM
    Points shall be awarded for each conference contest played:
    7 points – win over a .750 or better team on the road
    6.5 points – win over a .750 or better team at home
    6 points – win over a .500 or better team on the road
    5 points – win over a .500 or better team at home
    4.5 points – win over a .250 or better team on the road
    4 points – win over a .250 team or better at home
    3.5 points – win over an under .250 team on the road
    3 points – win over an under .250 team at home
    2.5 points – loss at home or on the road to a .750 or better team
    2 points – loss to a .500 or better team at home or on the road
    1 point – loss to a .250 or better team at home or on the road
    .5 points – loss to an under .250 team on the road
    0 points – loss to an under .250 team at home

    GLVC POINT RATING SYSTEM TIEBREAK – SECTION 3.C.2.b
    Head-to-head competition if the win is on the road.
    Head-to-head competition with all remaining institutions in order of their overall GLVC Point Rating System ranking played at the same site, considering only contests where the tied teams played the same opponent at home or played the same opponent on the road.
    Head-to-head competition if the win is at home.
    A coin flip by the Commissioner.

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    Looks alot like the Performance Indicator. Looks like a legitimate, if not perfect, way to correct for strength of schedule. Other than winning the divisional "title", the point system makes the division set up irrelevant.

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    Are the points fluid for the entire season? For instance if you beat a team that has a ..500 at the time you play them but as the season progresses they fall below .500 does your points for winning also fall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Are the points fluid for the entire season? For instance if you beat a team that has a ..500 at the time you play them but as the season progresses they fall below .500 does your points for winning also fall?
    Yes.

    Not that I know for sure, but it makes zero sense to do it the other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horsepower View Post
    Are the points fluid for the entire season? For instance if you beat a team that has a ..500 at the time you play them but as the season progresses they fall below .500 does your points for winning also fall?
    Yes-
    At the end of the season, each team’s ratings will be determined by results against opponents’ winning percentage as they ended the regular season, not what it was when the result occurred.

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    Current standings with this new point system:

    RANK Team Record Win% P.I.
    1 Missouri-St. Louis 2-1 66.67% 4.33
    2 Southern Indiana 2-0 100.00% 4.25
    3 McKendree 1-1 50.00% 4.00
    3 Truman State 1-1 50.00% 4.00
    5 Maryville 2-1 66.67% 3.67
    5 Rockhurst 2-1 66.67% 3.67
    7 Bellarmine 2-0 100.00% 3.50
    7 Drury 2-1 66.67% 3.50
    9 William Jewell 2-1 66.67% 3.33
    10 Lewis 1-2 33.33% 3.00
    11 Illinois Springfield 1-1 50.00% 2.75
    12 Indianapolis 1-2 33.33% 2.33
    13 Missouri S&T 0-2 0.00% 2.00
    13 Quincy 0-3 0.00% 2.00
    15 Wisconsin-Parkside 0-2 0.00% 1.75

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    Of course, now I see that the GLVC is releasing these numbers after each contest, found on the standings page of the website.

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    The Points Rating System also tightened up a bit after last night's results, with Drury getting a road win, Truman getting a road win at William Jewell, Indianapolis getting a road win at UMSL, and USI losing.

    1- Bellarmine (4.25)
    2- Drury (3.85)
    3- Southern Indiana (3.81)
    4- Truman State (3.77)
    5- Indianapolis (3.71)
    6- Maryville (3.29)
    7- Missouri-St. Louis (3.19)
    8- Lewis (3.00)
    ---
    9- William Jewell (2.88)
    10- Illinois Springfield (2.85)
    11- Rockhurst (2.54)
    12- McKendree (2.27)
    13- Quincy (2.21)
    14- Missouri S&T (1.88)
    ---
    UW-Parkside would be 8th if they were eligible at 3.12.

    They're all important at this point of the season, but games with a little extra juice this Saturday-
    #2 Drury at #6 Maryville
    (#8) UW-Parkside at #8 Lewis -- could really make the top 6 feel comfortable if Lewis lost this one
    #9 William Jewell at #10 Illinois Springfield -- last gasp for one of these teams?
    #1 Bellarmine at #3 Southern Indiana

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    USI loses again against ROCKHURST!!! Lol!!

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    Women:
    T1- Drury (4.66)
    T1- Southern Indiana (4.66)
    3- Lewis (4.18)
    4- Missouri-St. Louis (3.84)
    5- Bellarmine (3.53)
    6- William Jewell (3.19)
    7- Truman State (3.16)
    8- Rockhurst (2.97)
    ---
    9- McKendree (2.88)
    10- Illinois Springfield (2.78)
    11- Indianapolis (2.72)
    12- UW-Parkside* (2.47)
    13- Missouri S&T (2.34)
    T14- Maryville (2.28)
    T14- Quincy (2.28)

    Men:
    1- Bellarmine (4.56)
    2- Indianapolis (3.97)
    3- Drury (3.91)
    4- Truman State (3.84)
    5- Southern Indiana (3.56)
    6- Maryville (3.41)
    7- Lewis (3.32)
    8- William Jewell (3.19)
    ---
    9- UW-Parkside* (3.09)
    10- Missouri-St. Louis (3.06)
    11- Rockhurst (2.91)
    12- Illinois Springfield (2.66)
    13- McKendree (2.44)
    14- Quincy (2.38)
    15- Missouri S&T (1.84)

    This Week's Schedule:
    Thursday, Feb. 22
    William Jewell at Truman State
    Southern Indiana at UW-Parkside
    Quincy at Missouri-St. Louis
    McKendree at Missouri S&T
    Maryville at Illinois Springfield
    Rockhurst at Drury
    Indianapolis at Bellarmine
    IDLE: Lewis

    Saturday, Feb. 24
    Missouri S&T at Rockhurst
    Illinois Springfield at Truman State
    Drury at William Jewell
    Southern Indiana at Lewis
    UW-Parkside at Indianapolis
    McKendree at Quincy
    Missouri-St. Louis at Maryville
    IDLE: Bellarmine

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    A system where you can finish tied with a team in your own division, beat them twice, and then end up ranked behind them in the conference is a weird system.

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    With one day of regular season remaining (7 games) that makes 2^7 or 128 possible W/L combinations...so I obviously haven't checked every possible scenario, but here's the ranges I'm seeing of where each team can possibly land. Again, there may be other possibilities but I ran about 10 different what-if's to determine this. Basically, 7 of 8 teams are set. WJ and UMSL will be battling for the final position.

    1. Bellarmine. Every scenario I've run is unanimous.
    2. Drury, Truman, UIndy
    3. Drury, Truman, UIndy, USI
    4. Truman, UIndy, USI
    5. UIndy, USI, Maryville
    6. USI, Maryville, Lewis
    7. Lewis, William Jewell, UMSL
    8. Lewis, William Jewell, UMSL
    __________________________

    9. William Jewell, UMSL, UWP*
    10. William Jewell, UWP*
    11. Rockhurst, IL Springfield
    12. Rockhurst, IL Springfield
    13. Quincy, McKendree
    14. Quincy, McKendree
    15. Missouri S&T (every single scenario)

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    If all of Massey's predictions are true (with McKendree picking up the only road win tomorrow), then we see the following lineup:
    1. Bellarmine
    2. Truman
    T3. Drury (would win tiebreaker over UIndy in this specific scenario due to win over USI)
    T3. UIndy
    5. USI
    6. Maryville
    7. Lewis
    8. William Jewell
    9. UMSL
    10. UWP
    11. Rockhurst
    12. UIS
    13. McKendree
    14. Quincy
    15. S&T

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnautza View Post
    If all of Massey's predictions are true (with McKendree picking up the only road win tomorrow), then we see the following lineup:
    1. Bellarmine
    2. Truman
    T3. Drury (would win tiebreaker over UIndy in this specific scenario due to win over USI)
    T3. UIndy
    5. USI
    6. Maryville
    7. Lewis
    8. William Jewell
    9. UMSL
    10. UWP
    11. Rockhurst
    12. UIS
    13. McKendree
    14. Quincy
    15. S&T
    This would give first round matches of:
    WJ/BU
    Lewis/Truman
    Maryville/Drury
    USI/UIndy 3.0

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    One game remains to decide GLVC standings. UMSL makes it in if they beat Maryville. Otherwise, WJ takes the last spot.
    At this point, we have:
    1. Bellarmine
    2. Truman
    3. Drury (tiebreaker over Indy due to sweeping Truman)
    4. UIndy
    5. If Maryville wins, they get 5th. If they lose, USI takes 5th.
    6. If Maryville wins, USI gets 6th. If Maryville loses, Lewis beats Maryville in a tiebreaker for 6th due to winning at Drury.
    7. If Maryville wins, Lewis takes 7th. If Maryville loses, Maryville takes 7th.
    8. If Maryville wins, William Jewell takes 8th. If Maryville loses, UMSL takes 8th.

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    5th or 6th the end result is the same. The end of another disastrous season by Wod. And just think we have this clown for 2 more stinking years..... Yippee

    Quote Originally Posted by schnautza View Post
    One game remains to decide GLVC standings. UMSL makes it in if they beat Maryville. Otherwise, WJ takes the last spot.
    At this point, we have:
    1. Bellarmine
    2. Truman
    3. Drury (tiebreaker over Indy due to sweeping Truman)
    4. UIndy
    5. If Maryville wins, they get 5th. If they lose, USI takes 5th.
    6. If Maryville wins, USI gets 6th. If Maryville loses, Lewis beats Maryville in a tiebreaker for 6th due to winning at Drury.
    7. If Maryville wins, Lewis takes 7th. If Maryville loses, Maryville takes 7th.
    8. If Maryville wins, William Jewell takes 8th. If Maryville loses, UMSL takes 8th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnautza View Post
    One game remains to decide GLVC standings. UMSL makes it in if they beat Maryville. Otherwise, WJ takes the last spot.
    At this point, we have:
    1. Bellarmine
    2. Truman
    3. Drury (tiebreaker over Indy due to sweeping Truman)
    4. UIndy
    5. If Maryville wins, they get 5th. If they lose, USI takes 5th.
    6. If Maryville wins, USI gets 6th. If Maryville loses, Lewis beats Maryville in a tiebreaker for 6th due to winning at Drury.
    7. If Maryville wins, Lewis takes 7th. If Maryville loses, Maryville takes 7th.
    8. If Maryville wins, William Jewell takes 8th. If Maryville loses, UMSL takes 8th.
    Really nice of Maryville and UMSL to play the only late game on the last day of the regular season. :D
    Last edited by UFOILERFAN; 02-24-2018 at 07:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnautza View Post
    One game remains to decide GLVC standings. UMSL makes it in if they beat Maryville. Otherwise, WJ takes the last spot.
    At this point, we have:
    1. Bellarmine
    2. Truman
    3. Drury (tiebreaker over Indy due to sweeping Truman)
    4. UIndy
    5. If Maryville wins, they get 5th. If they lose, USI takes 5th.
    6. If Maryville wins, USI gets 6th. If Maryville loses, Lewis beats Maryville in a tiebreaker for 6th due to winning at Drury.
    7. If Maryville wins, Lewis takes 7th. If Maryville loses, Maryville takes 7th.
    8. If Maryville wins, William Jewell takes 8th. If Maryville loses, UMSL takes 8th.
    Never thought I’d see the day when maryville gets higher seed than USI but this might be the year. I think we’d be better off playing Indy than Drury so it might work in our favor.

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