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    Who will be the next ECU Football Coach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finishempty Fred View Post
    Who will be the next ECU Football Coach?
    Bret Bielema! lol.. At least he's coaching like a D2 coach! Wait, I shouldn't insult some of our great coaches! Which by the way, its going to be a hard vote for coach of the year this year!! I mean, could be said HU coach for turning his team from a 0-3 start to 8-3, others would say ATU, for nobody believing they'd be a 8-3 team! Others would obviously vote for OBU bc of the GAC championship, but my honest vote would be HU, because a 1st year coach could have thrown in the towel, but perservered! Nothing against you Fred, because you guys definitely are in the race, but its hard to argue against the 0-3 to 8-3 finish! Coach of the year is more than a championship! But still good luck saturday tigers!

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    I'd love for it to be Knight, but I think it has to be Harding coach.

    At one point I was thinking the SNU coach, but they faltered down the stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandguy11 View Post
    Bret Bielema! lol.. At least he's coaching like a D2 coach! Wait, I shouldn't insult some of our great coaches! Which by the way, its going to be a hard vote for coach of the year this year!! I mean, could be said HU coach for turning his team from a 0-3 start to 8-3, others would say ATU, for nobody believing they'd be a 8-3 team! Others would obviously vote for OBU bc of the GAC championship, but my honest vote would be HU, because a 1st year coach could have thrown in the towel, but perservered! Nothing against you Fred, because you guys definitely are in the race, but its hard to argue against the 0-3 to 8-3 finish! Coach of the year is more than a championship! But still good luck saturday tigers!
    Yes, Harding didn't pack it up. Much respect even though I genuinely don't like em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OBUGrad View Post
    I'd love for it to be Knight, but I think it has to be Harding coach.

    At one point I was thinking the SNU coach, but they faltered down the stretch.
    Coach Knight got the award he wanted when Harding beat ATU!

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    There is really no telling. It will be someone outside the program. The last head coach ECU hires was JaHavens, and he’s the best basketball coach in the GAC IMO. So hopefully they find a good one to replace McCarty.

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    Lots of good hs coaches in the east part of the state. I think Bill Blakenship is at Owasso.

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    ECU is a good job to take in my opinion. Good talent already there, lots of support from community and the Chickasaw’s who are the biggest Native American tribe in OK, new president. Great place for a big time guy to come and rebuild.

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    Big news coming out of Ada today I think.

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    Ada Evening News has published an article confirming that Al Johnson will be the next ECU head coach.

    http://www.theadanews.com/sports/loc...ea487c2ca.html

    On the surface it looks like a great hire and someone who will bring good energy to the program.

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    I could not be happier or more excited. Brought it a younger guy that has a pretty good resume, has absolutely no ties to the university or state for that matter, and someone that will bring their own culture to the program that already has somewhat of a solid foundation. Great day to be Tiger!

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    Are y'all comfortable with a GA O-line coach stepping into your head coaching role? I get that this is D2, but still, that's a massive, massive jump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReddieMade View Post
    Are y'all comfortable with a GA O-line coach stepping into your head coaching role? I get that this is D2, but still, that's a massive, massive jump.
    There is no doubt that this is a gutsy hire, no doubt at all. However, to me the risk is not whether he knows his football, but how he will handle the team/administrative things. Also, don't let the title of GA fool you. He has coordinator experience, and also has an amazing playing career under his belt.

    This guy is a brand new face at ECU, and he will completely flip the culture there. This admin did the same thing with Coach Havens and the basketball team, and they have been at the top of the conference for two years straight. This is very excited for ECU.

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    I certainly think the learning curve is going to be on dealing with the administrative side of things, as he has ample football experience at the highest level.

    It is kind of apples to oranges but Wisconsin's DC is Jim Leonard and is only in his 2nd year of coaching and has been very successful. The NFL career should translate well to the coaching side. As a player we all have the coaches and coaching styles that we like and dislike, as well as schemes and decision making.

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    Still scratching my head on this Johnson hire, the guy has no idea what D2 football is and has zero ties to Oklahoma. He has only been apart of big time college ball in Wisconsin and decided to not start until Jan 3rd, over a month after the new SWOSU had been out on the road recruiting. I know he wanted to finish the season with Wisconsin, but you are a GA, not even a position coach, go get things rolling at your new job. So you would think he would hire some guys with Oklahoma or D2 ties for his staff, nope hired a couple of guys that have very little D2 experience with a guy that played at ECU. No one on the staff has any idea about the conference except for a guy that played 2 years ago. Not sure what the ECU Administration was thinking here.
    At least SWOSU hired some guys with D2 experience that will know the conferece and D2. Not many with Oklahoma ties to help with reccruiting. Look at the successful Oklahoma D2 guys and they know the school and the conference. Bobeck at UCO played at and coached there beofre going back to be the head coach. Atterbury at SE did the same thing and had been at the D2 level the entire time. Walter who is turning around the NWOSU program was an alum and coached at D2 level for 6 years at a successful university. Just because someone coached at the D1 level and played at the NFL level doesnt always mean they are going to be the right fit. I am an Oklahoma guy and want all the programs to be successful. Time will tell ECU!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1st Down View Post
    Still scratching my head on this Johnson hire, the guy has no idea what D2 football is and has zero ties to Oklahoma. He has only been apart of big time college ball in Wisconsin and decided to not start until Jan 3rd, over a month after the new SWOSU had been out on the road recruiting. I know he wanted to finish the season with Wisconsin, but you are a GA, not even a position coach, go get things rolling at your new job. So you would think he would hire some guys with Oklahoma or D2 ties for his staff, nope hired a couple of guys that have very little D2 experience with a guy that played at ECU. No one on the staff has any idea about the conference except for a guy that played 2 years ago. Not sure what the ECU Administration was thinking here.
    At least SWOSU hired some guys with D2 experience that will know the conferece and D2. Not many with Oklahoma ties to help with reccruiting. Look at the successful Oklahoma D2 guys and they know the school and the conference. Bobeck at UCO played at and coached there beofre going back to be the head coach. Atterbury at SE did the same thing and had been at the D2 level the entire time. Walter who is turning around the NWOSU program was an alum and coached at D2 level for 6 years at a successful university. Just because someone coached at the D1 level and played at the NFL level doesnt always mean they are going to be the right fit. I am an Oklahoma guy and want all the programs to be successful. Time will tell ECU!!!!
    I agree, but I wish the new staff nothing but success which will only make the GAC more competitive against the so called power D2 conferences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1st Down View Post
    Still scratching my head on this Johnson hire, the guy has no idea what D2 football is and has zero ties to Oklahoma. He has only been apart of big time college ball in Wisconsin and decided to not start until Jan 3rd, over a month after the new SWOSU had been out on the road recruiting. I know he wanted to finish the season with Wisconsin, but you are a GA, not even a position coach, go get things rolling at your new job. So you would think he would hire some guys with Oklahoma or D2 ties for his staff, nope hired a couple of guys that have very little D2 experience with a guy that played at ECU. No one on the staff has any idea about the conference except for a guy that played 2 years ago. Not sure what the ECU Administration was thinking here.
    At least SWOSU hired some guys with D2 experience that will know the conferece and D2. Not many with Oklahoma ties to help with reccruiting. Look at the successful Oklahoma D2 guys and they know the school and the conference. Bobeck at UCO played at and coached there beofre going back to be the head coach. Atterbury at SE did the same thing and had been at the D2 level the entire time. Walter who is turning around the NWOSU program was an alum and coached at D2 level for 6 years at a successful university. Just because someone coached at the D1 level and played at the NFL level doesnt always mean they are going to be the right fit. I am an Oklahoma guy and want all the programs to be successful. Time will tell ECU!!!!
    And apparently believe that only an Oklahoma guy with ties to Oklahoma can win at an Oklahoma school. Atterbury has been ok since he got there but SE hardly ever beats anyone who is any good (they did beat OBU this year) but since he has been there they are always 6-5/7-4 with their wins against the weak of the conference. As for NWOSU I'm not sure a one game improvement each year is what I would consider a turnaround but at least he is trending the right direction. Yet he still lacks wins over the elite of the league. Johnson might fall flat on his face but if he does it won't be because he isn't from OK. He will fail because he doesn't realize the duties of a head coach are as much off the field than on the field.
    If you are an 18yo high school kid and 2 coaches come to your door. One of them know's the kids cousin because his aunt dated the postman and he watched him play football since pee wee league gives his spiel. The next coach comes to the door and he played in the NFL and coached at a D1 school in the big 10. As far as 18yo's go, who has the bona fides? the creds?

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    I just think they should have looked into someone with D2 or Oklahoma ties to build a program. Actually Atterbury was at Texas AM Kingsville for 6 years and took them to the playoffs twice and is winning games in the dump of SE. NWOSU is defnitely trending in the right direction and will win more games this year. I don't get how playing in the NFL and coaching at the D1 level translats to success at the D2 level. I know Carthel had neither and non the the guys that won Championships at NW Missouri had any d1 experience or spent time in the NFL. If I am an 18yo I want to go somewhere that has had success and knows how to win. I'm sure all the HS coaches will be awed and amazed at playing in the NFL and being at Wisconsin.

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    You're right, 1st down. ECU hired someone with no D2 coaching experience and someone who isn't from Oklahoma, but SWOSU hired someone who needs a freakign apple crate to stand on at the podium to reach the mic. How can someone who is only 5'2" has success coaching at a D2 school in Oklahoma???

    A lot of people close to ECU program would argue that the program Coach Johnson is getting is already built with a solid foundation. What most people think that have met the man and spoke with him think that the biggest thing Johnson is bringing to the program is a new yougn face, and a new energy/culture which we have seen at all levels could make the difference in winning and losing.

    AS to the point where Coach Johnson doesn't know anything about Oklahoma... ECU has one of the strongest alumni networks in the state of Oklahoma. There are a ton of great HS
    coaches with ECU ties making sure Johnson knows who is where and doing what. Also, seems like the SWOSU staff sure is tweeting out alot of recruits that have area codes that arent 580, 405, or 918.

    Also, ECU has been average and worse with D2 guys with Oklahoma ties, SWOSU has been average or worse with D2 guys with Oklama ties. Same for SEOSU. Why continue this trend? Why not try a guy with an outstanding playing career and a strong young coaching career?

    Again, 1st down, I could be blowing just as smoke as you are, but time will tell. The future is bright at ECU.
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