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    This week in the West ...

    Current Standings / 11-27-2017

    Team - PSAC - Overall - Streak

    Edinboro - 2-0 / 4-0 / W4

    Mercyhurst - 2-0 / 3-1 / L1

    IUP - 2-0 / 5-3 / W4

    Gannon - 1-1 / 4-2 / W3

    California - 1-1 / 3-2 / L1

    Seton Hill - 1-1 / 3-3 / W1

    UPJ - 1-1 / 2-3 / L2

    SRU - 0-2 / 4-2 / W2

    Clarion - 0-2 / 2-4 / L3


    In the spotlight: Gannon
    The Knights' next four games are brutal. A trip to a students-are-back, hostile Bowie State on Wednesday, followed by three road games at Shippensburg, Kutztown and East Stroudsburg. To make things worse, the fifth game in this stretch is against Notre Dame (OH). This is likely a season-defining five-game set for the Knights.

    Back to life: IUP
    IUP has won four straight. The Crimson Hawks end the 'first half' with three road games (West Chester, Cheyney and Mansfield) before a Dec. 19 showdown with Fairmont State at the KCAC.


    Are they for real? Slippery Rock

    At 4-2, SRU is off to a good start. Upon a closer look, a lot is still up in the air. The Rock has one win against teams with a winning record (Daemen / 3-2) and got beat up at home by Kutztown. SRU did play Shippensburg to the final seconds. Three of the wins -- West Virginia Wesleyan, Glenville State and District of Columbia -- came against teams with a combined 1-16 record. The next three games (all away) should shed some more light: Lock Haven, Bloomsburg and Millersville. The weakness: free throws. SRU is hitting just 69 percent.

    Where'd they come from? Edinboro
    Edinboro is 4-0 and rolling -- with strong wins against Millersville, Shippensburg and a solid Lake Erie team. The big difference from last year? Jaymon Mason is the third-leading scorer among the guards. That's scary. Keshawn Liggins (Idaho State transfer) is scoring 25 ppg and grabbing 10 rpg. Anthony Coleman is at 18 ppg and hitting nearly 50 percent on treys. A road trip to Lock Haven is the only big test (LH is much better than its record and has played a torrid schedule) prior to the break. Edinboro likely goes to Christmas at 9-0.


    West leaders:

    Scoring
    Keshawn Liggins - Boro: 24.3 ppg
    Isaac Vescovi - UPJ: 22.2
    Terry Davis, Jr. - Cal: 21.4
    Micah Till - SRU: 20.7
    Isaiah Lewis - Cal: 21.4

    Rebounding:
    Keshawn Liggins - Boro: 10.0
    Jahmere Howze - Cal: 9.8
    Cobo Diaz - IUP: 9.3
    Evan Phoenix - GU: 9.2
    Spencer Casson - SH: 8.8

    Team scoring
    Clarion - 87.7
    Cal - 87.2
    Boro - 82.3

    Team defense
    Mercyhurst - 59.0
    GU - 62.3
    IUP - 72.3

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    Some updated Average Home Attendance numbers:

    Kutztown - 783
    IUP - 726 (1,367 last year ... 5 home games already ... down almost half)
    Gannon - 601
    Shippensburg - 551
    Mercyhurst - 372
    Edinboro - 346
    Seton Hill - 325
    Millersville - 300
    California - 285
    Slippery Rock - 253
    UPJ - 250
    ESU - 250
    Bloom - 232
    Clarion - 226
    WCU - 129
    Lock Haven - no home games
    Cheyney - no home games
    Mansfield - no home games

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    Gannon blows 17-point lead, commits 29 turnovers and loses in OT at Bowie, 63-59. On top of it Bowie star guard was 1-for-13 on treys. Wasn't a pretty game. Gannon was up 18-1 to start game ... then scored just 2 points in 5 overtime minutes.

    Old JR probably won't be real talkative on the long ride home.


    Big win for Bowie State. They don't quit. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Gannon blows 17-point lead, commits 29 turnovers and loses in OT at Bowie, 63-59. On top of it Bowie star guard was 1-for-13 on treys. Wasn't a pretty game. Gannon was up 18-1 to start game ... then scored just 2 points in 5 overtime minutes.

    Old JR probably won't be real talkative on the long ride home.


    Big win for Bowie State. They don't quit. Ever.
    YIKES!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Gannon blows 17-point lead, commits 29 turnovers and loses in OT at Bowie, 63-59. On top of it Bowie star guard was 1-for-13 on treys. Wasn't a pretty game. Gannon was up 18-1 to start game ... then scored just 2 points in 5 overtime minutes.

    Old JR probably won't be real talkative on the long ride home.


    Big win for Bowie State. They don't quit. Ever.
    Bowie shot 24/70 from the floor and 4/22 on threes. But you don't have to shoot well if you rebound the basketball ... 21 offensive rebounds for a 20-6 advantage on second half points. You don't see a Reilly team get dominated on the boards like that. Gannon was also 6/15 from the line.

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    That box score -- both sides -- is just unbelievable.

    That final score is funny ... 63-59 in an overtime game. That's a first half in the MEC.

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    A couple nights ago Edinboro made the trip to Daemen and walked away with an L. At one point Daemen was up by 20. Edinboro has been a cold first half team - especially when Mason is cold. Coach Cleary has been doing a great job of coaching during the intermission and making proper adjustments. Daemen still won by 10 but the second half was much closer. Hopefully its something he can fix in practice to eliminate the need to play a hotter second half.

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    Sounds like a major scuffle in today's West Chester vs Seton Hill game ... combined 6 player ejections (3 each).

    Box scores shows 6 players as "DQ" ....
    Last edited by IUPbigINDIANS; 12-03-2017 at 07:26 PM.

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    Men's

    Updated Standings as of 12-4-2017


    EAST

    (PSAC record then Overall record)

    East Stroudsburg (4-0, 6-0)
    West Chester (4-0, 7-0)
    Kutztown (3-1, 6-1)
    Shippensburg (3-1, 6-2)
    Mansfield (3-1, 3-3)
    Millersville (1-3, 3-6)
    Lock Haven (1-3, 2-5)
    Cheyney (1-3, 1-6)
    Bloomsburg (0-4, 4-4)

    WEST

    Edinboro (3-1, 5-2)
    IUP (3-1, 6-4)
    Slippery Rock (2-2, 6-2)
    California (2-2, 5-3)
    Mercyhurst (2-2, 4-3)
    UPJ (2-2, 4-4)
    Gannon (1-3, 4-5)
    Seton Hill (1-3, 3-5)
    Clarion (0-4, 2-7)

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    Interestingly enough, the East looks like it's in good position to beat the West for the second straight year, with a 20-15 edge.

    The West is its usual dominant self on the women's side, with a 27-9 edge. Four teams in the west are undefeated (IUP, Boro, Cal). Only one team in the east is 3-1 (Stroud), and one more is 2-2 (WC). The rest have losing conference records. It's going to be a bloodbath once west vs. west play starts for the women.

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    The East is much stronger and deeper this year -- so far.

    East Stroudsburg is piling up points. That said, it's too early to declare them a title. Their opponents to this point have a combined 19-28 record. Their schedule is about to get immensely more difficult including a 14-day stretch in January against Shippensburg, (at) IUP, (at) West Chester and Kutztown.

    It will be interesting to see if they can put up a big number on the Gannon defense and its 1950s pace.

    Shippensburg is still going to be a real tough out. Dustin Sleva is the best player in the conference. West Chester is also very strong. Even the teams with bad records in the East are solid -- Lock Haven and Bloomsburg are going to pull some upsets this year. They've both lost a lot of real close games already. Mansfield is a real tough out and Millersville has been much better.

    The West ... wouldn't want to bet it ... put it that way. Cal's next two are going to tell us a lot -- (at) Ship and (at) Fairmont State. Edinboro has lost a little buzz after losing at Daemen and at Mansfield. IUP looks great one minute and like a train wreck the next. Gannon's lost 3 in a row and is in a brutal stretch. Mercyhurst seems shaky at best. Slippery Rock isn't getting the hype but may be the best team in the West right now.

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    Bloom nips Clarion

    Boro slips past Cheyney

    IUP over Mansfield

    Gannon D smothers ESU in huge road win

    Ship blows Cal out of gym

    UPJ over Lock Haven

    WCU shorthanded over Mercy

    Kutztown blasts Seton Hill

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    I must admit that if there was one game that I had chalked up as a loss before the season, it was today at East Stroudsburg. I am quite surprised, to say the least, particularly after the last three losses.

    Holding Stroud to over 40 points below their season average is insane. GU's three-point FG percentage defense is the best in the PSAC. Gannon also outrebounded ESU 37-25 and forced enough turnovers that the 23 they committed themselves didn't sting as much.

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    ESU best three point shooters were not a factor in the game. One had foul trouble very early and saw limited minutes and the other didn’t play at all. Circumstances dictated a poor shooting day not the Gannon defense.

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    UPDATED STANDINGS - 12/11/2017

    (PSAC, Overall, Streak)


    EAST

    West Chester (5-0, 8-0, W8)
    Kutztown (4-1, 8-1, W6)
    East Stroudsburg (4-1, 7-1, L1)
    Shippensburg (4-1, 7-2, W4)
    Mansfield (3-2, 4-4, L1)
    Bloomsburg (1-4, 5-4, W1)
    Millersville (1-4, 3-8, L3)
    Lock Haven (1-4, 2-6, L3)
    Cheyney (1-4, 1-8, L3)


    WEST

    Edinboro (4-1, 6-2, W2)
    IUP (4-1, 7-4, W2)
    SRU (3-2, 8-2, W6)
    UPJ (3-2, 5-4, W2)
    Cal (2-3, 5-4, L2)
    Mercyhurst (2-3, 4-4, L3)
    Gannon (2-3, 5-5, W1)
    Seton Hill (1-4, 3-6, L3)
    Clarion (0-5, 2-8, L7)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjtheman View Post
    ESU best three point shooters were not a factor in the game. One had foul trouble very early and saw limited minutes and the other didn’t play at all. Circumstances dictated a poor shooting day not the Gannon defense.
    ESU's two top three-point shooters both played. Nick Giordano (2.4 threes per game) was the one who was in foul trouble -- fouling out in 14 minutes, but was largely ineffective (1/6 from downtown) when he was in the game. Marc Rodriquez (2.3 per game) played 29 minutes and was 0/2 from behind the arc. ESU's third-best three-point shooter, Krawczeniuk, a non-starter who makes 1.7 threes per game, did not play.

    I'm sure that Stroud didn't have their A-game, but Gannon's defense, who was able to control the pace of the game, deserves some credit for holding Stroud over 40 points below their scoring average.

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    The one who didn’t play led the team in attempts and makes last year. The one in foul trouble was basically in a tie for second. They are the two best shooters. When someone sits because of foul trouble early it is hard get into the game physically and mentally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golden89 View Post
    ESU's two top three-point shooters both played. Nick Giordano (2.4 threes per game) was the one who was in foul trouble -- fouling out in 14 minutes, but was largely ineffective (1/6 from downtown) when he was in the game. Marc Rodriquez (2.3 per game) played 29 minutes and was 0/2 from behind the arc. ESU's third-best three-point shooter, Krawczeniuk, a non-starter who makes 1.7 threes per game, did not play.

    I'm sure that Stroud didn't have their A-game, but Gannon's defense, who was able to control the pace of the game, deserves some credit for holding Stroud over 40 points below their scoring average.
    One of the "circumstances" of playing Gannon is that you will be defended all over the floor, and that on the other end of the floor the opponent will have to play defense for the whole shot clock. If those circumstances get a shooter, who might not have the legs or physical attributes to defend for the whole shot clock, into foul trouble on his defensive side, that's part of the game. You have to give credit to Gannon's overall defense from the inside out, with special credit to their 3-point defense. They are very highly ranked 10 games into the season for 3-point defense. ESU is highly ranked in either 3-pointers made or attempted per game. Circumstances dictate that we give credit where credit is due!

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    Quote Originally Posted by quannis View Post
    One of the "circumstances" of playing Gannon is that you will be defended all over the floor, and that on the other end of the floor the opponent will have to play defense for the whole shot clock. If those circumstances get a shooter, who might not have the legs or physical attributes to defend for the whole shot clock, into foul trouble on his defensive side, that's part of the game. You have to give credit to Gannon's overall defense from the inside out, with special credit to their 3-point defense. They are very highly ranked 10 games into the season for 3-point defense. ESU is highly ranked in either 3-pointers made or attempted per game. Circumstances dictate that we give credit where credit is due!
    If Gannon’s defense was so good they wouldn’t have surrendered a huge lead to Bowie state and get steamrolled by shippensburg and the kutztown came wasn’t very close. One out of four and the delusional come out of hiding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mjtheman View Post
    If Gannon’s defense was so good they wouldn’t have surrendered a huge lead to Bowie state and get steamrolled by shippensburg and the kutztown came wasn’t very close. One out of four and the delusional come out of hiding.
    Sorry about that, MJ. Didn't know I was talking about the last four. Thanks for inferring that for me. However, I was citing some facts, statistics ya know, and some observations from the game in question.

    Sounds like you were at Bowie? Can I get your opinions on that one? I know a few people who were there. We could compare notes! How does a team surrender a huge lead like that? Here's a hint:no video evidence. Look at the stats. A whole lot of outliers there.

    Ship and Kutztown are stretch wins for Gannon. They would have to play close to perfect games to beat those teams, and they're not there at this point, maybe never this season. However, Gannon is deeper and more skilled than ESU at every position, and that's a good equation for a road win.

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