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    Quote Originally Posted by Looking For 9 View Post
    Everyone else is gone. I can still see Sam dancing, smiling and playing with a ball at mid court at the NCAA tourney. Clearly he had learned anything. He could have been something special but didn't even learn how to dunk during a game.
    Everyone else who dressed? Or literally everyone? Wondering about the kid from Toledo...

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    Start over again??? How often does he need to start over?

    Quote Originally Posted by alumnifan View Post
    I don't have a subscription to the OMI. It seems the SID office will not be listing any of the OMI articles. That could have been a point of contention between the two.

    What else was written? It does confirm some things I have heard from another source. They'll release the 2017-2018 Roster with a big splash on the Athletic website as soon as they tie up the knots. Maybe, Happy realized he had to start over.

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    Start over again??? How often does he need to start over?
    Unfortunately I agree with you. If you are always reloading, your not building a top notch program. Bellermine I feel does it right. Since Happy has been here he has had only one 4 year player they have developed, Bosley. Since we didn't have any true freshman last year, he could go another four years without one, that's not good in my book. It seems like Happy attracts a lot of kids with attitudes! He also is a sucker for one and done players, so you never feel like we are building anything positive here. Happy is a great man I am sure, but I never see us winning another title while he is here, it's hard to defend his performance as coach

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    A fair statement...club players never really paned out. My issue is that too many signed players change their mind. So many HS recruits get recruited to prep (basketball factory) schools. It works for some but not for many. Before last year I think player attitudes were okay. Happy has recruited many that he knew in high school.

    Lots of D2 coaches cleaning house this year. Not sure if it is due to D1 transfers or lack of skill/wiling to work.

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    Happy did a fantastic job in NAIA but his strategy of recruiting hasn't worked well in DII. Many underestimate the difference between these two levels and that difference is massive. NAIA mirrors more what you see in JUCO ball. Talented players playing in a very loosely designed structure offensively and defensively. I still felt Happy would make the adjustment work because is a very engaging individual and has such great passion for the sport of basketball. Personally I hope he rights the ship because I am beginning to wonder how much longer he will be at the helm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Purplebuckeye View Post
    Unfortunately I agree with you. If you are always reloading, your not building a top notch program. Bellermine I feel does it right. Since Happy has been here he has had only one 4 year player they have developed, Bosley. Since we didn't have any true freshman last year, he could go another four years without one, that's not good in my book. It seems like Happy attracts a lot of kids with attitudes! He also is a sucker for one and done players, so you never feel like we are building anything positive here. Happy is a great man I am sure, but I never see us winning another title while he is here, it's hard to defend his performance as coach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redswin View Post
    Happy did a fantastic job in NAIA but his strategy of recruiting hasn't worked well in DII. Many underestimate the difference between these two levels and that difference is massive. NAIA mirrors more what you see in JUCO ball. Talented players playing in a very loosely designed structure offensively and defensively. I still felt Happy would make the adjustment work because is a very engaging individual and has such great passion for the sport of basketball. Personally I hope he rights the ship because I am beginning to wonder how much longer he will be at the helm.
    It's good to have you on the Board. I agree with everything you say. We have no idea really about what is going on within the program. You have to develop a strong team over time with players who know each other. Why recruit a player or players and have them packing the next season? Academics? Breaking team rules?

    Happy did pretty good with Ken-Jah and Jordan last season. The Williams suspension caused the first round loss in the NCAA Regional. I'm beating a dead horse.

    Continuity is the staple of a great program. Wesleyan has two players returning.

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    Sam I don't think realized how talented he was and that is a shame. I am rooting for Happy because he is one of the good guys in this sport. I bet you he has a plan and that plan is based on team chemistry. The really great Kentucky Wesleyan teams always had a couple of unselfish role players.

    Quote Originally Posted by alumnifan View Post
    It's good to have you on the Board. I agree with everything you say. We have no idea really about what is going on within the program. You have to develop a strong team over time with players who know each other. Why recruit a player or players and have them packing the next season? Academics? Breaking team rules?

    Happy did pretty good with Ken-Jah and Jordan last season. The Williams suspension caused the first round loss in the NCAA Regional. I'm beating a dead horse.

    Continuity is the staple of a great program. Wesleyan has two players returning.

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    Malek Harris is the Captain of the KWC basketball team, literally. This is his team now. The guy went absolutely under the radar last year. That's not to say he didn't have outstanding performances, he did. He was just playing in the shadow of the seniors.

    Give Bosley his dues. I thought the man played his heart out, and he is undoubtedly among the top shooting guards Wesleyan has ever had. He will be in the college Athletic Hall of Fame in the future. The guy went into Freedom Hall and scored 21 points his freshman season against Louisville. You think that's easy?

    Jordan Jacks was an outstanding talent. His leaping ability was extroidinary. He also improved immensely.

    Happy can't fill that type of offense this season. They were a special combo for two years.

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    New story on kwcpanthers.com ... Lists Jay Johnson (6'7" F / transfer from Marshall) as a signee, which I had forgotten about completely. He was supposed to be a signee last year, so not sure exactly what happened there, but sounds like he's finally going to be on board. Brings some good size to go with Harris and Quinn down low. Definitely sounds like we're going to be very guard oriented, though Harris has the talent to be one of the top forwards in the region. We're just not very deep size-wise. Lots of 6' to 6'2" guys to go with only 3 guys 6'7" or better. That said, you don't have to have a ton of size to be successful in D2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwcpantherfan View Post
    New story on kwcpanthers.com ... Lists Jay Johnson (6'7" F / transfer from Marshall) as a signee, which I had forgotten about completely. He was supposed to be a signee last year, so not sure exactly what happened there, but sounds like he's finally going to be on board. Brings some good size to go with Harris and Quinn down low. Definitely sounds like we're going to be very guard oriented, though Harris has the talent to be one of the top forwards in the region. We're just not very deep size-wise. Lots of 6' to 6'2" guys to go with only 3 guys 6'7" or better. That said, you don't have to have a ton of size to be successful in D2.
    That's some good news, did we ever get confirmation on Sam Williams status??

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    Nothing at all said about returning players in the story, except it does mention Daniel Dzierzawski (that's going to be a brutal name to try to spell over the next year) which is the Toledo transfer that joined at semester break, and also Dakota Quinn who had signed late last year as well (transfer from Samford). Based on the players mentioned, and the known ... or assumed at least ... returnees Harris and Hatton, that's only a roster of 9, so my assumption is that at least a couple of walk-ons will be returning as well, or walk-ons will be added to round it out.

    Since no returnees were mentioned, Williams' status is officially not known but I tend to believe LF9's sources when he says he's gone (history shows he and his folks are right 99%+ of the time).

    I wonder about the status of our other walk-on players, though. Hunter Noffsinger, Latrelle Irvin...others we may not have even heard of from the club team...

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    Happy still needs a Center.

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    I think Jay is a real stretch but shows Happy's loyalty and inability to sign a good big. Jay could not play due to knee surgery. His knees are not good and I wonder if he is in any kind of game shape. He should be an example to Colton...go to school and get a degree. I think this is the worst individual by individual skilled team Happy has had but that doesn't mean they will not be a good team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looking For 9 View Post
    I think Jay is a real stretch but shows Happy's loyalty and inability to sign a good big. Jay could not play due to knee surgery. His knees are not good and I wonder if he is in any kind of game shape. He should be an example to Colton...go to school and get a degree. I think this is the worst individual by individual skilled team Happy has had but that doesn't mean they will not be a good team.
    I agree, we will finish 3rd behind Findlay, and maybe AB.

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    It would be ok with me if last two mentioned don't come back, too many guards. We haven't had a really good big since Happy has been here, sounds like to me Happy is mailing it in. Who is LF9??

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    LF9=Looking for 9

    I agree Findlay has to be the favorite coming in, since they were a regional finalist and bring back nearly their whole team. Beyond that it's far too early to say this KWC team won't be in the mix. Harris is one of the top players in the region, and even though they're new to us we do have some good guard talent coming in. Only time will tell. Chemistry goes a long way and hopefully these guys will develop good chemistry quickly.

    As for the comment that Happy needs a center, "needs" is a bit strong of a term, in my opinion. There are not that many true centers in D2, and most of the ones that are in D2 aren't any good. You don't HAVE to have a good center to compete at this level. In fact, I wonder if the centers we have had the last few seasons have been more of a hindrance to us than a help? Most of them haven't been effective on the court and ended up essentially taking up space most of the time and that's about it. A small, athletic, quick team with a couple of athletic posts in Harris and Quinn may be better off in the long run than just being "big" on the court.

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    I have been watching tapes of the two Juco All Americans and the player from Los Angles. All three have one thing in common. Once the ball crosses half court they have the ball less than a second before passing. Many times their passes lead to a good shot and almost never to a turn over. They keep the ball moving and can shoot when needed. If we have the lead the guards can protect it. I have other thoughts but, for now, back to the tapes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looking For 9 View Post
    I have been watching tapes of the two Juco All Americans and the player from Los Angles. All three have one thing in common. Once the ball crosses half court they have the ball less than a second before passing. Many times their passes lead to a good shot and almost never to a turn over. They keep the ball moving and can shoot when needed. If we have the lead the guards can protect it. I have other thoughts but, for now, back to the tapes.
    Does anyone here think its important for a coach to let the media/fans know what players have left program, and a general idea why?? i.e. Sam Williams. I think Happy thinks he can sweep players that leave under the table without explanation

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    That's when a player leaves

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    What ever a coach does is wrong. Saying nothing may be the safest thing. The fact that players have not shown up transferring to other schools may say something.

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