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    Default GLVC February 13/16/18 Thread

    Regional rankings on Wednesday (only counting games through Sunday). Three (or four) games left in the regular season w/ GLVC tourney starting in two weeks from today.

    East
    Bellarmine || 14-1 (7-0 division) || 22-3 overall
    Southern Indiana || 13-2 (5-2 division) || 23-2 overall
    UW-Parkside || 11-4 (5-2 division) || 19-5 overall
    Lewis || 11-4 (4-3 division) || 16-9 overall
    Indianapolis || 11-4 (4-3 division) || 14-9 overall
    McKendree || 3-11 (1-6 division) || 9-13 overall
    Saint Joseph's || 3-12 (1-6 division) || 9-16 overall
    Illinois Springfield || 3-12 (1-6 division) || 8-16 overall

    West
    Quincy || 11-4 (6-1 division) || 21-5 overall
    Truman State || 10-5 (5-2 division) || 18-7 overall
    Drury || 8-7 (5-2 division) || 15-8 overall
    Rockhurst || 8-7 (4-3 division) || 14-9 overall
    Missouri S&T || 4-11 (3-4 division) || 10-12 overall
    Missouri-St. Louis || 4-11 (3-4 division) || 10-15 overall
    William Jewell || 3-11 (2-5 division) || 7-15 overall
    Maryville || 2-13 (0-7 division) || 8-19 overall

    This Week's Games:
    Monday, Feb. 13
    McKendree at William Jewell

    Thursday, Feb. 16:
    Rockhurst at Quincy
    William Jewell at Truman State
    McKendree at Bellarmine
    IL Springfield at Southern Indiana
    Drury at Maryville
    Missouri S&T at MO-St. Louis
    UW-Parkside at Saint Joseph's
    Lewis at Indianapolis

    Saturday, Feb. 18:
    William Jewell at Quincy
    Rockhurst at Truman State
    IL Springfield at Bellarmine
    McKendree at Southern Indiana
    Missouri S&T at Maryville
    Drury at MO-St.Louis
    Lewis at Saint Joseph's
    UW-Parkside at Indianapolis

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    Huge week for UIndy. Of course they are more than capable of running the table in the tourney but a couple of home wins against Lewis and Parkside could get them off the bubble I think.

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    Default Re: GLVC February 13/16/18 Thread

    If BU wins their two home games against UIS and Mckendree, will they have clinched the GLVC #1 seed regardless of the result of the USI game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightmoves View Post
    If BU wins their two home games against UIS and Mckendree, will they have clinched the GLVC #1 seed regardless of the result of the USI game?
    yes because they will have a better divisional record then USI, which is the first tiebreaker.

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    If conference were seeded today:

    1. *Bellarmine (E1) 14-1
    2. *Quincy (W1) 11-4
    3. *USI (E2) 13-2
    4. *UWP (E3) 11-4 (tiebreaker #1 over Lewis with road win, tiebreaker #2 over UIndy with divisional record)

    5. *UIndy (E4) 11-4 (tiebreaker #3 over Lewis with divisional road record)
    6. *Lewis (E5) 11-4
    7. *Truman (W2) 10-5
    8. *Drury (W3) 8-7 (tiebreaker #2 over Rockhurst with divisional record)

    9. *Rockhurst (W4) 8-7
    10. UMSL (W5) 4-11 (tiebreaker #1 over S&T with road win)
    11. Missouri S&T (W6) 4-11
    12. COIN FLIP McKendree (E6)/William Jewell (W7) 3-11 [note: this will be broken tonight with the make-up game]
    13. COIN FLIP McKendree (E6)/William Jewell (W7) 3-11
    14. St Joe (E7) 3-12 (tiebreaker #1 over UIS with road win)
    15. Ill-Springfield (E8) 3-12
    16. Maryville (W8) 2-13

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    Default Re: GLVC February 13/16/18 Thread

    If conference were seeded today, with WJ/McK game considered - it's a rat race for the last 3 seeds.

    1. *Bellarmine (E1) 14-1
    2. *Quincy (W1) 11-4
    3. *USI (E2) 13-2
    4. *UWP (E3) 11-4 (tiebreaker #1 over Lewis with road win, tiebreaker #2 over UIndy with divisional record)

    5. *UIndy (E4) 11-4 (tiebreaker #3 over Lewis with divisional road record)
    6. *Lewis (E5) 11-4
    7. *Truman (W2) 10-5
    8. *Drury (W3) 8-7 (tiebreaker #2 over Rockhurst with divisional record)

    9. *Rockhurst (W4) 8-7
    10. UMSL (W5) 4-11 (tiebreaker #1 over S&T with road win, tiebreaker #2 over WJ with divisional record)
    11. Missouri S&T (W6) 4-11 (tiebreaker #2 over WJ with divisional record)
    12. William Jewell (W7) 4-11

    13. St Joe (E6) 3-12 (tiebreaker #1 over UIS with road win, tiebreaker #3 over McK with win at UIS)
    14. Ill-Springfield (E7) 3-12 (tiebreaker #1 over McK with road win)
    15. McKendree (E8) 3-12
    16. Maryville (W8) 2-13

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    Default Re: GLVC February 13/16/18 Thread

    Looking at the league schedule with three games left, if nothing really crazy happens that defies the current course of the season (ie, Maryville winning 3 games in a row after winning 2 of their first 15), there's really these groups:

    Group A -- Bellarmine, Southern Indiana -- These two teams pretty much have a top-4 seed (likely the #'s 1 & 3 seeds) wrapped up and a first-round bye to the quarterfinals.
    Group B -- Parkside, UIndy, Lewis -- This group could either be completely settled, or even more muddled, after this weekend, with the "victor" likely taking the #4 seed and a first-round bye. The other two are likely in line for seeds in the 5-7 range.
    Group C -- Quincy, Truman -- This duo is most likely playing for the #2 seed and the #7 seed (could be 5 or 6 based on tiebreakers) -- probably to be settled in the final regular season game next Thursday at TSU.
    Group D -- Drury, Rockhurst -- Likely headed to a first-round battle in the 8/9 game. Drury probably has the inside track since RU has to play at both QU & TSU while the Panthers head to STL to face Maryville & UMSL this weekend. Either could move up to a possible 7 seed if Truman goes 0-3 or 1-2 (and loses tiebreakers)
    Group E -- UMSL, S&T -- These two, based on schedule, probably have the most inside track to a 10/11/12 seed. They play each other and both have to play Drury, but they avoid QU, TSU, or RU in division play down the stretch.
    Group F -- Jewell, St. Joe, UIS, McKendree -- The last seed is going to come from whichever team comes out of this last stretch with a win or two ... UIS and MCK get a benefit from playing each other (so there's one win); WJC has to play QU/TSU/RU and SJC has to play UWP/LU/UINDY.
    Group G -- Maryville -- The Saints get home games this weekend against DU/S&T and also head to UMSL, but they're at least two games back of the 12-spot now and would need to likely come out on top in a multi-team tiebreaker unless a 3-win run closes the year.
    Last edited by Tyler Madsen; 02-14-2017 at 02:56 PM.

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    Default Re: GLVC February 13/16/18 Thread

    At this point, as long as BU wins both games this week, they should be guaranteed the #1 seed. Even if USI beats BU (and ties them by winning out), BU holds the tiebreaker with divisional record.
    It's very difficult for me to imagine BU losing either game this week (how is that for a whammy?).

    That means that USI is pretty much a lock for #3 - they are 2 games ahead of the current 4th place group (UWP, Lewis, UIndy), so in order to NOT get the 3rd seed, they'll have to lose at least one game this week. Again, this shouldn't be a problem for them to win both home games.

    So basically, I think USI can plan on playing a noon game on Thursday, March 2. I hate that it's in the middle of a weekday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnautza View Post
    At this point, as long as BU wins both games this week, they should be guaranteed the #1 seed. Even if USI beats BU (and ties them by winning out), BU holds the tiebreaker with divisional record.
    It's very difficult for me to imagine BU losing either game this week (how is that for a whammy?).

    That means that USI is pretty much a lock for #3- they are 2 games ahead of the current 4th place group (UWP, Lewis, UIndy), so in order to NOT get the 3rd seed, they'll have to lose at least one game this week. Again, this shouldn't be a problem for them to win both home games.

    So basically, I think USI can plan on playing a noon game on Thursday, March 2. I hate that it's in the middle of a weekday.
    Where did you see the schedule for the GLVC tourney? When would the #1 seed play on Thursday (Not saying who that might be, thus avoiding the self-whammy!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnightStalker View Post
    Where did you see the schedule for the GLVC tourney? When would the #1 seed play on Thursday (Not saying who that might be, thus avoiding the self-whammy!)
    http://www.glvcsports.com/documents/...ll.pdf?id=2319

    They've got an outline of game times in the Basketball handbook. This being an "odd" year, the men play first (Thursday) and women play Friday.

    Cut and Pasted:

    All first round Sunday game times will be determined by the host institution but tipoff may not be scheduled any later than 3:30 p.m. (local), including institutions that host both genders. Start times must be on file with the Conference office on Thursday following the completion of the last regular season game. All quarterfinal, semifinal and championship game times and schedules will be determined by the Commissioner.

    Sunday – First Round
    #12 Seed at #5 Seed … TBD
    #11 Seed at #6 Seed …TBD
    #10 Seed at #7 Seed …TBD
    #9 Seed at #8 Seed … TBD

    **Tournament Re-Seeded after First Round

    Thursday – Quarterfinals*
    Game 1: #6 Seed vs. #3 Seed…Noon (Game #5)
    Game 2: #7 Seed vs. #2 Seed…2:30 PM (Game #6)
    Game 3: #8 Seed vs. #1 Seed…6:00 PM (Game #7)
    Game 4: #5 Seed vs. #4 Seed…8:30 PM (Game #8)

    Friday – Quarterfinals*
    Game 5: #6 Seed vs. #3 Seed…Noon (Game #5)
    Game 6: #7 Seed vs. #2 Seed…2:30 PM (Game #6)
    Game 7: #8 Seed vs. #1 Seed…6:00 PM (Game #7)
    Game 8: #5 Seed vs. #4 Seed…8:30 PM (Game #8)

    Saturday – Semifinals*
    Game 9: Winner Game 1 vs. Winner Game 2…Noon (Game #9)
    Game 10: Winner Game 3 vs. Winner Game 4…2:30 PM (Game #10)
    Game 11: Winner Game 5 vs. Winner Game 6…6:00 PM (Game #9)
    Game 12: Winner Game 7 vs. Winner Game 8…8:30 PM (Game #10)

    Sunday – Championships*
    Game 13: Winner Game 9 vs. Winner Game 10…1:00 PM (Game #11)
    Game 14: Winner Game 11 vs. Winner Game 12…3:30 PM (Game #11)

    * Gender playing first session will rotate annually with the women playing first in even years and the men in odd years

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    Thank you kind sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnautza View Post
    http://www.glvcsports.com/documents/...ll.pdf?id=2319

    They've got an outline of game times in the Basketball handbook. This being an "odd" year, the men play first (Thursday) and women play Friday.

    Cut and Pasted:

    All first round Sunday game times will be determined by the host institution but tipoff may not be scheduled any later than 3:30 p.m. (local), including institutions that host both genders. Start times must be on file with the Conference office on Thursday following the completion of the last regular season game. All quarterfinal, semifinal and championship game times and schedules will be determined by the Commissioner.

    Sunday – First Round
    #12 Seed at #5 Seed … TBD
    #11 Seed at #6 Seed …TBD
    #10 Seed at #7 Seed …TBD
    #9 Seed at #8 Seed … TBD

    **Tournament Re-Seeded after First Round

    Thursday – Quarterfinals*
    Game 1: #6 Seed vs. #3 Seed…Noon (Game #5)
    Game 2: #7 Seed vs. #2 Seed…2:30 PM (Game #6)
    Game 3: #8 Seed vs. #1 Seed…6:00 PM (Game #7)
    Game 4: #5 Seed vs. #4 Seed…8:30 PM (Game #8)

    Friday – Quarterfinals*
    Game 5: #6 Seed vs. #3 Seed…Noon (Game #5)
    Game 6: #7 Seed vs. #2 Seed…2:30 PM (Game #6)
    Game 7: #8 Seed vs. #1 Seed…6:00 PM (Game #7)
    Game 8: #5 Seed vs. #4 Seed…8:30 PM (Game #8)

    Saturday – Semifinals*
    Game 9: Winner Game 1 vs. Winner Game 2…Noon (Game #9)
    Game 10: Winner Game 3 vs. Winner Game 4…2:30 PM (Game #10)
    Game 11: Winner Game 5 vs. Winner Game 6…6:00 PM (Game #9)
    Game 12: Winner Game 7 vs. Winner Game 8…8:30 PM (Game #10)

    Sunday – Championships*
    Game 13: Winner Game 9 vs. Winner Game 10…1:00 PM (Game #11)
    Game 14: Winner Game 11 vs. Winner Game 12…3:30 PM (Game #11)

    * Gender playing first session will rotate annually with the women playing first in even years and the men in odd years
    One thing you may get a benefit on, since the tourney is in Evansville this year, is that the GLVC office reserves the right to set the quarterfinal round game times as they so choose. I believe this is partly in order to get the largest possible crowds in the evening.

    In 2016 (St. Charles, MO), the order went 1/8, 4/5, 2/7, 3/6 -- that allowed Drury, Quincy, and Truman to be in the 6:00 & 8:30 time slots.
    In 2015 (St. Charles, MO), the order went 1/8, 4/5, 2/7, 3/6 -- allowing Drury, UMSL, and Truman to be in the 6:00 & 8:30 time slots.
    In 2014 (Evansville), the order went 4/5, 1/8, 2/7, 3/6 -- while USI played the noon game, UIndy/BU went primetime at 8:30.

    Not sure the rhyme or reason, but unless they've changed that policy this year and set specific game times for specific seeds, at least the listed 3/6 game this year at "noon" hasn't actually been the "noon" game in the past three years.

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    If the conference tournament was today:
    1. *Bellarmine (E1) 15-1
    2. *Quincy (W1) 12-4
    3. *Southern Indiana (E2) 14-2
    4. *Indianapolis (E3) 12-4

    5. *Truman (W2) 11-5 (tiebreaker #1 over UWP with road win)
    6. *UW-Parkside (E4) 11-5 (tiebreaker #1 over Lewis with road win)
    7. *Lewis (E5) 11-5
    8. *Drury (W3) 9-7

    9. *Rockhurst (W4) 8-8
    10. Missouri S&T (W5) 5-11
    11. Saint Joseph's (E6) 4-12 (tiebreaker #1 over UMSL with road win)
    12. Missouri-St. Louis (W6) 4-12 (tiebreaker #2 over William Jewell with divisional record)

    13. William Jewell (W7) 4-12
    14. Illinois Springfield (E7) 3-13 (tiebreaker #1 over McKendree with road win)
    15. McKendree (E8) 3-13
    16. Maryville (W8) 2-14

    Extra Notes:
    *Bellarmine needs just one win to clinch the overall #1 seed.
    *Quincy could secure #2 overall seed with a win and a Truman loss on Saturday.
    *Southern Indiana has clinched a first-round bye.
    *Indianapolis can clinch a first-round bye with a win and a Lewis loss on Saturday due to owning a road win at Truman.
    *UW-Parkside & Lewis cannot be worse than #7 seed due to each owning a road win at Drury.
    *Missouri S&T needs just one win to clinch a tournament bid due to owning a road win at UMSL.
    (Probably more but those 4-12 / 3-13 tiebreakers get ugly)

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    who cares about the conference mini-tourney?

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