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    Made up this thread to talk about results from national title contenders outside of the Midwest.

    I noticed that WLU pulled out a 3 point win at home against the mighty Shepherd Lambs (don' know their real nickname, but it seems appropriate). I'm not sure that WLU is anything close to as good as advertised. Their season stats so far indicate that they are not a particularly good three point shooting team, which would seem to me to seriously hamper their style. Their offensive stats are currently grotesquely over inflated by scoring 130+ points against a couple of terrible teams. They only scored 67 last night. Makes me want to repeat my advice to the entire Mountain East, slow the ball down, don't turn it over, and you have a chance to beat WLU. Wouldn't be surprised to see WLU lose on Sunday to Fairmont.

    Of course, I clearly don't know what I'm talking about because my preseason #1, Lincoln Memorial, lost their second game of the season the other night against Carson-Newman (who is a good team, but one the most talented team in D2 should beat).

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    I know it's early and it's a small sample set, but currently my top 50 teams by performance indicators are as follows:
    RANK Team Region Conference Record Win% P.I. O.W% O.O.W%
    1 Northwest Missouri State Central MIAA 6-0 100.00% 18.50 55.83% 53.23%
    2 Colorado School of Mines South Central RMAC 4-0 100.00% 18.25 47.50% 65.55%
    3 Wheeling Jesuit Atlantic MEC 4-0 100.00% 18.00 47.50% 63.60%
    4 Chaminade West PWC 3-0 100.00% 17.67 47.62% 55.22%
    5 Ferris State Midwest GLIAC 4-1 80.00% 17.20 59.33% 45.55%
    6 Barry South SSC 4-0 100.00% 17.00 44.29% 68.04%
    6 Saginaw Valley State Midwest GLIAC 4-0 100.00% 17.00 43.33% 60.54%
    6 Central Washington West GNAC 3-1 75.00% 17.00 59.58% 44.01%
    6 Arkansas-Monticello Central GAC 3-0 100.00% 17.00 47.22% 62.26%
    10 Southern Indiana Midwest GLVC 4-0 100.00% 16.75 40.77% 58.54%
    11 Missouri S&T Midwest GLVC 3-0 100.00% 16.67 47.78% 61.26%
    12 Southern New Hampshire East NE10 5-0 100.00% 16.60 46.19% 50.93%
    13 Western Washington West GNAC 4-0 100.00% 16.50 41.67% 49.66%
    13 California Baptist West PWC 6-0 100.00% 16.50 48.08% 55.51%
    13 Fort Lewis South Central RMAC 1-1 50.00% 16.50 81.94% 36.64%
    16 Columbus State Southeast PBC 3-0 100.00% 16.33 34.44% 71.11%
    16 Southwest Minnesota State Central NSIC 6-0 100.00% 16.33 31.67% 58.82%
    18 Queens (N.C.) Southeast SAC 6-0 100.00% 16.17 39.37% 57.69%
    19 UC San Diego West CCAA 6-1 85.71% 16.00 48.52% 56.79%
    19 Drury Midwest GLVC 3-0 100.00% 16.00 44.44% 60.23%
    19 Cal State San Marcos West CCAA 2-1 66.67% 16.00 54.17% 52.90%
    19 MSU Moorhead Central NSIC 4-1 80.00% 16.00 47.33% 57.42%
    19 Fairmont State Atlantic MEC 5-0 100.00% 16.00 37.00% 56.62%
    19 Bridgeport East ECC 5-2 71.43% 16.00 59.95% 49.11%
    19 Shippensburg Atlantic PSAC 3-0 100.00% 16.00 41.67% 62.09%
    26 Morehouse South SIAC 4-2 66.67% 15.83 66.03% 50.41%
    27 Truman State Midwest GLVC 4-1 80.00% 15.80 46.38% 49.15%
    27 UAH South GSC 4-1 80.00% 15.80 52.67% 50.30%
    29 Saint Rose East NE10 8-0 100.00% 15.75 32.98% 58.63%
    30 Missouri Southern Central MIAA 4-2 66.67% 15.50 67.78% 45.10%
    30 West Liberty Atlantic MEC 6-0 100.00% 15.50 38.02% 60.03%
    30 Kutztown Atlantic PSAC 4-0 100.00% 15.50 35.27% 59.91%
    33 Georgia College Southeast PBC 5-1 83.33% 15.33 40.28% 57.61%
    34 Minnesota State Central NSIC 4-1 80.00% 15.20 45.00% 58.76%
    35 Lane South SIAC 3-3 50.00% 15.17 68.33% 36.71%
    36 Indiana (Pa.) Atlantic PSAC 7-0 100.00% 15.14 31.31% 66.41%
    37 Hawai'i Pacific West PWC 3-0 100.00% 15.00 30.95% 57.44%
    38 Adelphi East NE10 6-1 85.71% 14.86 36.99% 52.35%
    38 Kentucky Wesleyan Midwest GMAC 5-2 71.43% 14.86 59.01% 45.96%
    38 Virginia Union Atlantic CIAA 6-1 85.71% 14.86 32.62% 56.96%
    41 St. Thomas Aquinas East ECC 6-0 100.00% 14.83 30.95% 56.89%
    41 UNC Pembroke Southeast PBC 5-1 83.33% 14.83 44.76% 59.38%
    43 Harding Central GAC 4-1 80.00% 14.80 46.00% 59.45%
    43 Bellarmine Midwest GLVC 4-1 80.00% 14.80 41.00% 63.91%
    43 Washburn Central MIAA 5-0 100.00% 14.80 21.33% 69.53%
    43 Ohio Dominican Midwest GLIAC 4-1 80.00% 14.80 46.57% 47.28%
    47 Delta State South GSC 3-1 75.00% 14.75 47.92% 59.45%
    48 Nebraska-Kearney Central MIAA 5-1 83.33% 14.67 41.94% 55.74%
    49 Chico State West CCAA 5-0 100.00% 14.60 24.00% 63.97%
    50 Daemen East ECC 5-2 71.43% 14.57 47.77% 50.44%
    50 Merrimack East NE10 6-1 85.71% 14.57 37.76% 56.23%
    Last edited by schnautza; 12-01-2016 at 01:40 PM. Reason: upped to 50 teams

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    Again, I'm not sure the PI is that good at comparing teams across regions because there is little cross over play. It is good at comparing teams within a region though. I guess we could take the top 2 or 3 from each region and then tried to see if there is any common opponents within other regions. Think the sample is just too small to tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnightStalker View Post
    Again, I'm not sure the PI is that good at comparing teams across regions because there is little cross over play.
    Agreed, my post was to show you which teams have risen to the top in each region more than anything. But this early on, even that is difficult to get a good feel for any of them. Mostly right now I look at the win% and the opponents records.

    For example, we can see that NWMSU is starting pretty hot with 6-0 against better than 50% competition, and we see that Missouri Southern is 4-2 but against a combined record of nearly 70%, so that's impressive as well.

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    How about the top 10 in each region?

    RANK Team Region Conference Record Win% P.I. O.W% O.O.W%
    3 Wheeling Jesuit Atlantic MEC 4-0 100.00% 18.00 47.50% 63.60%
    19 Fairmont State Atlantic MEC 5-0 100.00% 16.00 37.00% 56.62%
    19 Shippensburg Atlantic PSAC 3-0 100.00% 16.00 41.67% 62.09%
    30 West Liberty Atlantic MEC 6-0 100.00% 15.50 38.02% 60.03%
    30 Kutztown Atlantic PSAC 4-0 100.00% 15.50 35.27% 59.91%
    36 Indiana (Pa.) Atlantic PSAC 7-0 100.00% 15.14 31.31% 66.41%
    38 Virginia Union Atlantic CIAA 6-1 85.71% 14.86 32.62% 56.96%
    59 Charleston Atlantic MEC 5-0 100.00% 14.20 28.67% 64.39%
    63 Shaw Atlantic CIAA 2-2 50.00% 14.00 68.45% 52.50%
    63 Notre Dame (Ohio) Atlantic MEC 4-2 66.67% 14.00 50.00% 51.45%


    1 Northwest Missouri State Central MIAA 6-0 100.00% 18.50 55.83% 53.23%
    6 Arkansas-Monticello Central GAC 3-0 100.00% 17.00 47.22% 62.26%
    16 Southwest Minnesota State Central NSIC 6-0 100.00% 16.33 31.67% 58.82%
    19 MSU Moorhead Central NSIC 4-1 80.00% 16.00 47.33% 57.42%
    30 Missouri Southern Central MIAA 4-2 66.67% 15.50 67.78% 45.10%
    34 Minnesota State Central NSIC 4-1 80.00% 15.20 45.00% 58.76%
    43 Harding Central GAC 4-1 80.00% 14.80 46.00% 59.45%
    43 Washburn Central MIAA 5-0 100.00% 14.80 21.33% 69.53%
    48 Nebraska-Kearney Central MIAA 5-1 83.33% 14.67 41.94% 55.74%
    61 Southeastern Oklahoma State Central GAC 3-3 50.00% 14.17 67.74% 42.11%


    RANK Team Region Conference Record Win% P.I. O.W% O.O.W%
    12 Southern New Hampshire East NE10 5-0 100.00% 16.60 46.19% 50.93%
    19 Bridgeport East ECC 5-2 71.43% 16.00 59.95% 49.11%
    29 Saint Rose East NE10 8-0 100.00% 15.75 32.98% 58.63%
    38 Adelphi East NE10 6-1 85.71% 14.86 36.99% 52.35%
    41 St. Thomas Aquinas East ECC 6-0 100.00% 14.83 30.95% 56.89%
    50 Daemen East ECC 5-2 71.43% 14.57 47.77% 50.44%
    50 Merrimack East NE10 6-1 85.71% 14.57 37.76% 56.23%
    62 Southern Connecticut State East NE10 5-2 71.43% 14.14 46.43% 58.69%
    63 Felician East CACC 5-3 62.50% 14.00 50.45% 48.19%
    71 Wilmington East CACC 4-2 66.67% 13.83 50.67% 52.96%


    RANK Team Region Conference Record Win% P.I. O.W% O.O.W%
    5 Ferris State Midwest GLIAC 4-1 80.00% 17.20 59.33% 45.55%
    6 Saginaw Valley State Midwest GLIAC 4-0 100.00% 17.00 43.33% 60.54%
    10 Southern Indiana Midwest GLVC 4-0 100.00% 16.75 40.77% 58.54%
    11 Missouri S&T Midwest GLVC 3-0 100.00% 16.67 47.78% 61.26%
    19 Drury Midwest GLVC 3-0 100.00% 16.00 44.44% 60.23%
    27 Truman State Midwest GLVC 4-1 80.00% 15.80 46.38% 49.15%
    38 Kentucky Wesleyan Midwest GMAC 5-2 71.43% 14.86 59.01% 45.96%
    43 Bellarmine Midwest GLVC 4-1 80.00% 14.80 41.00% 63.91%
    43 Ohio Dominican Midwest GLIAC 4-1 80.00% 14.80 46.57% 47.28%
    54 Quincy Midwest GLVC 4-1 80.00% 14.40 31.00% 58.68%


    RANK Team Region Conference Record Win% P.I. O.W% O.O.W%
    6 Barry South SSC 4-0 100.00% 17.00 44.29% 68.04%
    26 Morehouse South SIAC 4-2 66.67% 15.83 66.03% 50.41%
    27 UAH South GSC 4-1 80.00% 15.80 52.67% 50.30%
    35 Lane South SIAC 3-3 50.00% 15.17 68.33% 36.71%
    47 Delta State South GSC 3-1 75.00% 14.75 47.92% 59.45%
    52 Shorter South GSC 4-0 100.00% 14.50 17.50% 72.27%
    54 Christian Brothers South GSC 3-2 60.00% 14.40 55.71% 42.88%
    63 West Florida South GSC 4-0 100.00% 14.00 11.25% 77.75%
    71 Eckerd South SSC 4-2 66.67% 13.83 54.52% 47.19%
    71 Palm Beach Atlantic South IND 4-2 66.67% 13.83 40.83% 58.27%


    RANK Team Region Conference Record Win% P.I. O.W% O.O.W%
    2 Colorado School of Mines South Central RMAC 4-0 100.00% 18.25 47.50% 65.55%
    13 Fort Lewis South Central RMAC 1-1 50.00% 16.50 81.94% 36.64%
    52 Texas A&M-Commerce South Central LSC 4-0 100.00% 14.50 25.00% 67.31%
    54 Cameron South Central LSC 5-0 100.00% 14.40 20.33% 75.09%
    58 Regis South Central RMAC 4-0 100.00% 14.25 28.45% 71.67%
    63 Rogers State South Central HC 3-2 60.00% 14.00 64.67% 39.74%
    70 West Texas A&M South Central LSC 8-1 88.89% 13.89 35.77% 64.26%
    75 Eastern New Mexico South Central LSC 3-1 75.00% 13.75 37.50% 69.50%
    104 New Mexico Highlands South Central RMAC 2-2 50.00% 13.25 53.47% 39.15%
    105 Midwestern State South Central LSC 5-1 83.33% 13.17 25.74% 66.81%


    RANK Team Region Conference Record Win% P.I. O.W% O.O.W%
    16 Columbus State Southeast PBC 3-0 100.00% 16.33 34.44% 71.11%
    18 Queens (N.C.) Southeast SAC 6-0 100.00% 16.17 39.37% 57.69%
    33 Georgia College Southeast PBC 5-1 83.33% 15.33 40.28% 57.61%
    41 UNC Pembroke Southeast PBC 5-1 83.33% 14.83 44.76% 59.38%
    57 Limestone Southeast CC 5-1 83.33% 14.33 37.18% 59.27%
    59 Pfeiffer Southeast CC 5-0 100.00% 14.20 24.00% 57.99%
    81 Augusta Southeast PBC 5-1 83.33% 13.50 33.10% 52.42%
    93 Lincoln Memorial Southeast SAC 5-2 71.43% 13.43 45.44% 56.69%
    105 Coker Southeast SAC 4-2 66.67% 13.17 46.67% 49.96%
    120 Catawba Southeast SAC 3-2 60.00% 12.80 49.67% 47.86%


    RANK Team Region Conference Record Win% P.I. O.W% O.O.W%
    4 Chaminade West PWC 3-0 100.00% 17.67 47.62% 55.22%
    6 Central Washington West GNAC 3-1 75.00% 17.00 59.58% 44.01%
    13 Western Washington West GNAC 4-0 100.00% 16.50 41.67% 49.66%
    13 California Baptist West PWC 6-0 100.00% 16.50 48.08% 55.51%
    19 UC San Diego West CCAA 6-1 85.71% 16.00 48.52% 56.79%
    19 Cal State San Marcos West CCAA 2-1 66.67% 16.00 54.17% 52.90%
    37 Hawai'i Pacific West PWC 3-0 100.00% 15.00 30.95% 57.44%
    49 Chico State West CCAA 5-0 100.00% 14.60 24.00% 63.97%
    63 San Francisco State West CCAA 6-0 100.00% 14.00 24.68% 64.58%
    81 Humboldt State West CCAA 3-1 75.00% 13.50 42.50% 61.35%

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnautza View Post
    Agreed, my post was to show you which teams have risen to the top in each region more than anything. But this early on, even that is difficult to get a good feel for any of them. Mostly right now I look at the win% and the opponents records.

    For example, we can see that NWMSU is starting pretty hot with 6-0 against better than 50% competition, and we see that Missouri Southern is 4-2 but against a combined record of nearly 70%, so that's impressive as well.
    Northwest Missouri State is the real deal. Justin Pitts is probably the best player in all of D2...and he's just a junior. They might have won it last year if they weren't in the same region as Augustana.

    They should be the top ranked team in the country at this point. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like they're the only undefeated team in the country that also has an opponents winning % of greater than 50%.

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    Fairmont State beat Wheeling Jesuit at Wheeling last night.

    I was not impressed with IUP against Alderson Broaddus. I could add some things on that game but will bite my tongue but AB was up 4 with 26 seconds left.

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    This is a complete list of games that are considered "cross-regional" to date.
    4-Nov - Azusa Pacific 72 - West Texas A&M 86
    5-Nov - Azusa Pacific 72 - Texas A&M International 64
    5-Nov - St. Cloud State 70 - West Texas A&M 83
    6-Nov - St. Cloud State 61 - Texas A&M International 64
    18-Nov - Felician 78 - Livingstone 70 (N)
    18-Nov - Florida Southern 94 - Southern Indiana 108 (N)
    18-Nov - Georgian Court 71 - Mount Olive 83
    18-Nov - Lindenwood 73 - Simon Fraser 81
    18-Nov #17 Minnesota State 78 - Seattle Pacific 69
    19-Nov - Barton 85 - Georgian Court 69 (N)
    19-Nov - Central Washington 93 #17 Minnesota State 104 (N)
    19-Nov - Concordia (Calif.) 58 #10 Tarleton State 67
    19-Nov - Felician 91 - Johnson C. Smith 81
    19-Nov - Lindenwood 72 - Simon Fraser 73
    19-Nov - Oakland City 53 - Hawai'i Pacific 101
    19-Nov - Post 52 - Virginia Union 65
    19-Nov - St. Edward's 64 - Daemen 74
    19-Nov - Virginia State 80 - Young Harris 83
    20-Nov - Elizabeth City State 59 - Post 67 OT/(N)
    20-Nov #6 Northwest Missouri State 66 - MSU Denver 64
    21-Nov - St. Edward's 94 - Roberts Wesleyan 84
    22-Nov - Oakland City 71 - BYU-Hawaii 82
    23-Nov - Northwood 64 - Washburn 66 (N)
    24-Nov - Saint Rose 44 - Sioux Falls 42 (N)
    25-Nov - Bloomfield 74 - Regis 82
    25-Nov - Bluefield State 76 - Florida Tech 94
    25-Nov - Colorado Christian 69 - Tampa 87 (N)
    25-Nov - Concordia (Calif.) 67 - UA Fort Smith 55 (N)
    25-Nov - Davis & Elkins 86 - MSU Denver 101
    25-Nov - Grand Valley State 72 - Upper Iowa 76 (N)
    25-Nov - Lubbock Christian 76 - Northwood 75 OT/(N)
    25-Nov - Pittsburg State 44 - Saint Rose 67 (N)
    25-Nov - Tuskegee 58 - William Jewell 76 (N)
    25-Nov - Winona State 61 - Kentucky Wesleyan 77
    26-Nov - Bloomfield 73 - MSU Denver 79
    26-Nov - Bluefield State 75 - Tuskegee 70 (N)
    26-Nov - Carson-Newman 69 - Winona State 73 (N)
    26-Nov - Colorado Christian 82 - Eckerd 83
    26-Nov - Davis & Elkins 75 - Regis 80
    26-Nov - Le Moyne 53 #1 West Liberty 76
    26-Nov - Molloy 87 - Saint Leo 88
    26-Nov - UA Fort Smith 70 #5 California Baptist 84
    26-Nov - Upper Iowa 91 - Saint Joseph's 76
    26-Nov - Virginia Union 77 - Morehouse 101
    26-Nov - William Jewell 83 - Florida Tech 98
    27-Nov - Molloy 86 - Florida Southern 83
    27-Nov #20 Southern Connecticut State 78 - Nova Southeastern 81
    28-Nov - Virginia Union 71 - Clayton State 62
    29-Nov - Adelphi 104 - Salem International 66

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightmoves View Post
    Made up this thread to talk about results from national title contenders outside of the Midwest.

    I noticed that WLU pulled out a 3 point win at home against the mighty Shepherd Lambs (don' know their real nickname, but it seems appropriate). I'm not sure that WLU is anything close to as good as advertised. Their season stats so far indicate that they are not a particularly good three point shooting team, which would seem to me to seriously hamper their style. Their offensive stats are currently grotesquely over inflated by scoring 130+ points against a couple of terrible teams. They only scored 67 last night. Makes me want to repeat my advice to the entire Mountain East, slow the ball down, don't turn it over, and you have a chance to beat WLU. Wouldn't be surprised to see WLU lose on Sunday to Fairmont.

    Of course, I clearly don't know what I'm talking about because my preseason #1, Lincoln Memorial, lost their second game of the season the other night against Carson-Newman (who is a good team, but one the most talented team in D2 should beat).
    Not exactly a super bold prediction, in that the game is at Fairmont and they are ranked in top 11, and beat #3 ranked team while on the road yesterday. And Massey has Fairmont winning 91-90, if you believe that sort of thing. Based on the previous two WL games, they should be favored. As we've all agreed here, WL is the preseason top 10 darlings...they always have talent coming back, they haven't lost too many in the last 10 years, so it's a safe pick. Are they the best team in the country--I wouldn't put money on them to win it all as a prop bet, but they do have two injuries...I know, everybody does. They are minus 1 starter, and their 1st or 2nd player off the bench, depending on the rotation. And yes, they are missing the scoring from the best d2 3 pt shooter of all time, who graduated last year. All that being said, they'll be in the conversation to host the regional, with WJ, IUP and Fairmont. As last year and 3 yrs ago proved, they don't need to host to get to E8, either.
    Last edited by IUP Extra Mile; 12-01-2016 at 04:10 PM.

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