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    Default Re: West Liberty Hilltopper Basketball

    Couple of players the Toppers are aledged to be "looking at/made offers to:"

    SF Ryan Stowers, 6'5", 170, Quaker Valley HS PA
    PG DJ Dial, 5'9", 160, Brush HS OH

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Couple of players the Toppers are aledged to be "looking at/made offers to:"

    SF Ryan Stowers, 6'5", 170, Quaker Valley HS PA
    PG DJ Dial, 5'9", 160, Brush HS OH
    Suggest it is in our best interest not to post about any rumored players until official even if the rumor is not true.
    Last edited by Columbuseer; 04-14-2019 at 08:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbuseer View Post
    Suggest it is in our best interest not to post about any rumored players until official even if the rumor is not true.
    This information comes from the player/"news media." It's not secret or privileged information. Anyone seeking such information can simply do a Google or Twitter search and find it in about 5 seconds.

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    It wasn't long ago D2 basketball recruiting news was nearly impossible to find -- unless you had a legit source inside the athletic department.

    I can recall years not knowing a thing until the roster posted in the early fall.

    The 'Twitter World' has changed all that pretty quickly.


    The kid from Quaker Valley has been linked to several programs from what I've heard. At one point Fairmont was involved.

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    Wonder if this is a result of Lamberti's efforts in West Pa...He's from West Pa, and maybe was lead recruiter for Bryce Butler, from Latrobe and commit for Fall 2019...and now Stowers From Quaker Valley, another West PA guy...

    ANd maybe just coincidence...

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    The world of twitter and other social media has made it easier to find info. Just 15 years ago, good luck finding anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP Extra Mile View Post
    Wonder if this is a result of Lamberti's efforts in West Pa...He's from West Pa, and maybe was lead recruiter for Bryce Butler, from Latrobe and commit for Fall 2019...and now Stowers From Quaker Valley, another West PA guy...

    ANd maybe just coincidence...

    I don't know ... West Liberty basically is in Western Pa. I wouldn't think too much of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    This information comes from the player/"news media." It's not secret or privileged information. Anyone seeking such information can simply do a Google or Twitter search and find it in about 5 seconds.
    That is all true except the 5 second part. However websites like this one consolidate and somewhat vet the information ( famous example of a consolidation website is drudgereport) which dramatically reduces the effort considerably to get valuable and reasonably reliable information. Believe it or not there are programs that are too lazy or incompetent to evaluate players themselves so if they hear that a premier school (such as an iup) has offered someone they will offer them without any previous contact and try to poach the player at the 11th hour after a coach has spent long hours recruiting them. In some cases they have succeeded.

    This was just an FYI. Obviously People are free to make their own decisions about what to post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    I don't know ... West Liberty basically is in Western Pa. I wouldn't think too much of it.
    It is but WLU has never really recruited there for basketball. Maybe a stray cat or dog ends up on the hilltop but not a lot. From a recruiting standpoint, WLU has been more "Eastern Ohio" than "Western PA."

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    It is but WLU has never really recruited there for basketball. Maybe a stray cat or dog ends up on the hilltop but not a lot. From a recruiting standpoint, WLU has been more "Eastern Ohio" than "Western PA."
    That's what I was thinking boat...They typically mine Ohio for their players...and over the last 10 years or so, really only had Lamberti from West Pa...and maybe Jordan Fee... (although would have had Nick Smith, had Crutch not gone to Nova)

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    Valid but they are now recruiting against Crutch there. I think his class has two high school recruits from Ohio and he landed a transfer yesterday from Ohio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Valid but they are now recruiting against Crutch there. I think his class has two high school recruits from Ohio and he landed a transfer yesterday from Ohio.
    Transfer pg from Purdue Fort Wayne. Matt weir from new concord Ohio who led team to state title . Honor student at pfw. 40% threes and 88% ft. Classic crutch recruit. Just can’t understand picking fort Lauderdale Florida over scenic Fort Wayne lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Valid but they are now recruiting against Crutch there. I think his class has two high school recruits from Ohio and he landed a transfer yesterday from Ohio.
    This is Crutch's second class...I note that last year he brought in one Freshman from Ohio.

    To IUP Extra...Nick Smith is from Pittsburgh PA not Ohio!

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    If i'm not mistaken, that Matt Weir was recruited by crutch out of HS, and like alot of low D1 / high D2 tweeners, he opted for the bright lights of low D1, and now he's coming back to D2...

    Good Move is applauded...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUP Extra Mile View Post
    If i'm not mistaken, that Matt Weir was recruited by crutch out of HS, and like alot of low D1 / high D2 tweeners, he opted for the bright lights of low D1, and now he's coming back to D2...

    Good Move is applauded...
    Looks like Ft Wayne was his only D1 offer among several DII's in Ohio and WV. I don't blame him for taking a D1 offer...also don't blame him for realizing after two years that most of the college coaches that recruited him got it right in evaluating him as a DII player!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Looks like Ft Wayne was his only D1 offer among several DII's in Ohio and WV. I don't blame him for taking a D1 offer...also don't blame him for realizing after two years that most of the college coaches that recruited him got it right in evaluating him as a DII player!
    Also some D1 coaches recruit players that couldn't play dead in a Western. Not even close to competitive when they transfer to D2. It is really troubling, as you have stated in other threads, the exploitation of players by their AAU handler weasels to "go D1", which is really for the handler's benefit.

    Kids need to look in the mirror and say "Do i have the body to play in the NBA?"

    Average heights by position on 2018 NBA roster
    PG - over 6'2"" and 190 lbs
    SG - 6'5 204 lbs
    SF - over 6'7" 219 lbs
    PF - over 6'9", 232 lbs
    Center 6'11 249 lbs

    It is a physical, 1 on 1 game.

    If not blessed with an NBA body, quickness and jumping ability, then they need to pick a school that will develop the skills to get into an overseas career, since AAU is not doing it.
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    IMHO West Lib plays a Euro Style which is perfectly suited for the overseas game. They develop the complete player - they just don't say to the big guy - hey you just go rebound. They develop a more complete understanding of the game.

    23% of players selected to play outside the NBA in 2018 were D2.

    Exploitation of young impressionable players really bugs me. D1 is sleazy as evidenced by the litany of scandals at top-notch academic institututions, which is likely just the tip of the iceberg.

    In 5 years, no one is going to care if you went d1 or d2, while you are stuck with a worthless major that was designed to preserve your eligibility.

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    Yep...D1 in basketball and football is sleazy recruting wise. I also think its sleazy when D1 coaches play their fringe players a minimum number of games their second year knowing full well that they are never going to be front line guys. Intentionally eats up a year of potential DII eligibility which increases the chances these players stay with the D1 as primary practice fodder for the REAL players. Big difference in a redshirt sophomore coming to a DII with 3 seasons of eligibility vice 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Ben could always look to the football team for a big man. Wake Forest's football profile states TE Thomas Cole was a two time All-Valley and McDonald's All-American basketball select coming out of Wellsburg HS. Yea, he's "only" 6'5" but he's listed at 245 pounds!! Hey, Dan Monteroso pulled the two sport star athlete thing off sooooo, maybe Cole could as well!!

    I also note that incoming OL Francisco Pedrozo's profile on the Eastern Michigan football site mentions he played basketball at St Thomas Aquinas HS. At 6'7", 310 pounds he would certainly represent an immovable object in the paint!!!
    Monterosa scored 2200 pts in high school where cole scored < 1200. He was best basketball player on Purdue football team according to his teammates. Might be a bigger leap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbuseer View Post
    Monterosa scored 2200 pts in high school where cole scored < 1200. He was best basketball player on Purdue football team according to his teammates. Might be a bigger leap.
    I was tounge in cheek on this cat playing basketball, but for the sake of off season discussion, wouldn't be looking for him to lead the basketball team or even start. Bench guy getting about 15 minutes per game averaging 8 points, 4 offensive rebounds and a block or two.

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    Yep and just being a decent size, strong, athletic, physical presence when needed. He can run, goes around 250 and is a tough kid. He could possibly be a guy that can physically hold his own against a strong guy like a Patrick Smith type from Mercyhurst and if he burns some fouls it's no biggie.

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