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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbuseer View Post
    Saw tiffin game. Wl was really out of sync especially in 1st half. Coach thought was worst first half ever.
    Some silver linings:
    1) had more turnovers, few assists and 16 % from three and still won. They had a strong will to win.
    2) two freshman are starting to become dominant go to players at crunch time. Both hill and yoakum had over 20 points.
    3) veteran guards are having trouble guarding hill as he beats them off dribble for layups. He and yoakum are deadly from three too.

    Only bodes well for March.
    It was the bone crushing defense WLU plays that got them the W. Limited Tiffin to 39% from the field and 23% from three range!

    Good to see Hill and Yokum can carry the team when Bolon is having an off night. At 8 points, it's only the second time all season he's been held below 20 so it doesn't happen very often, but it is good to see that Hill and Yokum are capable of picking up the slack when it does.

    Also a shout out to Marlon Moore...When he get's minutes, he scores. He's not a 3 point shooter and that is fine on this team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    It was the bone crushing defense WLU plays that got them the W. Limited Tiffin to 39% from the field and 23% from three range!

    Good to see Hill and Yokum can carry the team when Bolon is having an off night. At 8 points, it's only the second time all season he's been held below 20 so it doesn't happen very often, but it is good to see that Hill and Yokum are capable of picking up the slack when it does.

    Also a shout out to Marlon Moore...When he get's minutes, he scores. He's not a 3 point shooter and that is fine on this team.
    This was probably your best defensive outing of the season, to date

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSAC76 View Post
    This was probably your best defensive outing of the season, to date
    You forgot to use the newly trademarked "bone crushing" when describing the defensive effort. Boat had to come up with a new trademark since "suffocating" has now been appropriated by the PSAC posters. ; )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrub View Post
    You forgot to use the newly trademarked "bone crushing" when describing the defensive effort. Boat had to come up with a new trademark since "suffocating" has now been appropriated by the PSAC posters. ; )
    Ha, my apologies. I'll leave the "bone crushing" part for when you do it against a team with a winning record. I cannot just throw that term out at any point. It deserves special treatment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    It was the bone crushing defense WLU plays that got them the W. Limited Tiffin to 39% from the field and 23% from three range!

    Good to see Hill and Yokum can carry the team when Bolon is having an off night. At 8 points, it's only the second time all season he's been held below 20 so it doesn't happen very often, but it is good to see that Hill and Yokum are capable of picking up the slack when it does.

    Also a shout out to Marlon Moore...When he get's minutes, he scores. He's not a 3 point shooter and that is fine on this team.
    Good points about Moore. He played a critical role with his defense and work on glass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbuseer View Post
    Good points about Moore. He played a critical role with his defense and work on glass.
    Would you say his defense was bone crushing or suffocating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Would you say his defense was bone crushing or suffocating?
    Lol! To paraphrase a movie quote, His defense "ate his opponent's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti!"

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    Wow...Took 2 OTs but WLU prevails over a game Concord squad 109-108!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    Wow...Took 2 OTs but WLU prevails over a game Concord squad 109-108!!
    Boys can play. I told you they were good.

    No size. That's what is killing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Boys can play. I told you they were good.

    No size. That's what is killing them.
    You could see the lack of size play out in the first half in particular. That first half was dominated by WLU's "big" guys--Meininger and Yoakum--getting to the rack without fear of a rim protector there.

    And if there's such a thing as a "quiet" 40 point night, this was it. For the first 35 minutes of that game, Bolte was downright off. He absolutely took over the game in the final 5 of regulation and in OT, but it's good to get a W against Concord when Bolte has an off-ish night. If you don't beat them when he's not feeling it, you have no prayer when he's lighting it up (like he did starting at the 35 minute mark). Really was a tale of two games for Bolte.

    What impressed me most, though, was Concord's perimeter defense. WLU really struggled to get into an offensive rhythm, and I credit Concord's (bone crushing?) defense for that.

    Good to escape with a W any way you can at this point in the season.

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    WLU has a couple of these gritty W's seemingly every year. Games when they just seem to refuse to lose. Bolte tried to put Concord on his back down the stretch but even with his heroics, WLU just always had an answer and would not be denied.

    If WLU had a height advantage, Concord must be a team of midgets!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcapt View Post
    WLU has a couple of these gritty W's seemingly every year. Games when they just seem to refuse to lose. Bolte tried to put Concord on his back down the stretch but even with his heroics, WLU just always had an answer and would not be denied.

    If WLU had a height advantage, Concord must be a team of midgets!!
    It will be a good rematch. I'm glad I tuned in ... very entertaining.


    But, yeah, add Cobo Diaz to Concord and they win the national title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    It will be a good rematch. I'm glad I tuned in ... very entertaining.


    But, yeah, add Cobo Diaz to Concord and they win the national title.
    So the addition of one IUP player would give Conc a better chance to win a NC than IUP WITH Diaz? Daaammmm...IUP must be pretty bad!!! Hahahaha!

    Sometimes rematches dont live up to the hype!

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    I'm saying that is what is killing Concord. No post game at all. That's why IUP blew out Fairmont. Total mismatch putting 6'5" post players against IUP. Teams have no chance under the bucket.

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    But yeah ... put Cobo and Bolte on same team ... wow.

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    Exciting game.

    Good Points for WLU:
    - offensive movement - Meininger will wear out big men in man to man defense by giving them a "John Havlichek" like tour of the court.. It keeps teams from resting when they are on defense.
    - Hill and Dyer played good defense on a very talented player. for most of the game.
    - Hill is very talented who is only going to get better.
    - In recent games they have been hitting the boards hard. They get more dominant as their opponents tire and are a step slow in getting to rebound position
    - Primmer is a money shooter
    - They won without Moore

    Areas for improvement
    - clock management - Bolon and Meininger took 3s with over 20 seconds left on the shot clock with under 2 minutes. Gave Concord extra possessions at end of regulation, which allowed them to get back in contention.
    - Situational awareness - With < 1 minute, Dyer fouled bolte on a break away for an and-one which allowed them to tie the game. If you let him score, they have to go into fouling mode to stop the clock.
    - Some guys are reaching or leaning on the between the legs shake and bake by Bolte. That allowed him to get by them. IMHO, between the legs dribbling is way overrated. Watch the midsection and forget about the shake and bake, as the ball goes where the midsection goes.


    Hopefully, this young team will learn from this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbuseer View Post
    Exciting game.

    Good Points for WLU:
    - offensive movement - Meininger will wear out big men in man to man defense by giving them a "John Havlichek" like tour of the court.. It keeps teams from resting when they are on defense.
    - Hill and Dyer played good defense on a very talented player. for most of the game.
    - Hill is very talented who is only going to get better.
    - In recent games they have been hitting the boards hard. They get more dominant as their opponents tire and are a step slow in getting to rebound position
    - Primmer is a money shooter
    - They won without Moore

    Areas for improvement
    - clock management - Bolon and Meininger took 3s with over 20 seconds left on the shot clock with under 2 minutes. Gave Concord extra possessions at end of regulation, which allowed them to get back in contention.
    - Situational awareness - With < 1 minute, Dyer fouled bolte on a break away for an and-one which allowed them to tie the game. If you let him score, they have to go into fouling mode to stop the clock.
    - Some guys are reaching or leaning on the between the legs shake and bake by Bolte. That allowed him to get by them. IMHO, between the legs dribbling is way overrated. Watch the midsection and forget about the shake and bake, as the ball goes where the midsection goes.


    Hopefully, this young team will learn from this game.
    Nice points here, Columbus. In particular, I also noticed the clock management issues. There seemed to be points in both regulation and the first OT when WLU was up and made boneheaded turnovers or took ill-advised shots. I kept thinking we were nearing the point when Concord would start fouling and WLU could put it away at the line, but just as we would near that point, WLU would make a poor decision to add a Concord possession (which Bolte would inevitably make good on). So, yes, a bit of the youth showed toward the end. Howlett even commented on that very thing to the sideline reporter on the way to the locker room. But hopefully the young kids learn from a game like this, as the tourney games always seem to feel like this one did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Columbuseer View Post
    Exciting game.

    Good Points for WLU:
    - offensive movement - Meininger will wear out big men in man to man defense by giving them a "John Havlichek" like tour of the court.. It keeps teams from resting when they are on defense.
    - Hill and Dyer played good defense on a very talented player. for most of the game.
    - Hill is very talented who is only going to get better.
    - In recent games they have been hitting the boards hard. They get more dominant as their opponents tire and are a step slow in getting to rebound position
    - Primmer is a money shooter
    - They won without Moore

    Areas for improvement
    - clock management - Bolon and Meininger took 3s with over 20 seconds left on the shot clock with under 2 minutes. Gave Concord extra possessions at end of regulation, which allowed them to get back in contention.
    - Situational awareness - With < 1 minute, Dyer fouled bolte on a break away for an and-one which allowed them to tie the game. If you let him score, they have to go into fouling mode to stop the clock.
    - Some guys are reaching or leaning on the between the legs shake and bake by Bolte. That allowed him to get by them. IMHO, between the legs dribbling is way overrated. Watch the midsection and forget about the shake and bake, as the ball goes where the midsection goes.


    Hopefully, this young team will learn from this game.
    Get Meininger training. He's gonna get ate for breakfast, lunch and dinner when these two eventually run in to each other.

    If he thought Sleva was bad ... whole new experience coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IUPbigINDIANS View Post
    Get Meininger training. He's gonna get ate for breakfast, lunch and dinner when these two eventually run in to each other.
    It certainly would be interesting to see. The "biggest" teams WLU faces in conference are FSU (with incredibly athletic forwards) and WV Wesleyan. Those Serbs are big boys, but not nearly as talented as the IUP bigs. But in both of those games--facing the biggest bigs he'll face--Meininger had a few of his best games (including the triple double game again WVW). Granted, he's never seen the COMBO of size+athleticism that IUP will bring, but he's done well to hold his own against the size (WVW) OR athleticism (FSU). But you might be right that the combo could be lethal for him. All I know is I sure hope we get an opportunity to find out! That would likely mean good things for both programs in the early rounds of the tourney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrub View Post
    It certainly would be interesting to see. The "biggest" teams WLU faces in conference are FSU (with incredibly athletic forwards) and WV Wesleyan. Those Serbs are big boys, but not nearly as talented as the IUP bigs. But in both of those games--facing the biggest bigs he'll face--Meininger had a few of his best games (including the triple double game again WVW). Granted, he's never seen the COMBO of size+athleticism that IUP will bring, but he's done well to hold his own against the size (WVW) OR athleticism (FSU). But you might be right that the combo could be lethal for him. All I know is I sure hope we get an opportunity to find out! That would likely mean good things for both programs in the early rounds of the tourney.
    We may. Never know. Lot of good teams in the Atlantic. Catch several on the wrong night and IUP or WL will be taking the dirt nap.

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