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    Quote Originally Posted by #1KnightFan View Post
    What impressed me the most was the team rebounding, team defense and passing (18 baskets on 16 assists). That is Bellarmine basketball. Cincy was taller and more athletic at every position and we hung in well. I think the team will learn from this and hopefully carry it into the regular season.
    Yeah, on the pre-game radio show, Doug and Mark noted that this may be BU's best-passing and best-defending team under Scotty. Time will tell.

    Speaking of the radio broadcast, it was fine, but I sure miss my man Nick Curran doing the play-by-play.

    FYI, in case any one is interested, looks like we can replay the UC game on demand:
    http://www.gobearcats.com/collegespo.../?media=538287

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellarmineGrad View Post
    Yeah, on the pre-game radio show, Doug and Mark noted that this may be BU's best-passing and best-defending team under Scotty. Time will tell.

    Speaking of the radio broadcast, it was fine, but I sure miss my man Nick Curran doing the play-by-play.

    FYI, in case any one is interested, looks like we can replay the UC game on demand:
    http://www.gobearcats.com/collegespo.../?media=538287
    Better passing than the Hobbs led teams would be an impressive feat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwcpantherfan View Post
    Better passing than the Hobbs led teams would be an impressive feat.
    No doubt. I'm a little leery of the claim about the current team, but we'll see. Think they've got potential.

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    Bell as usual very well coached. I am not sure what kind of d they played but neither does Cincy coach. Part zone part man to man. It had Cincy settling for threes that were rushed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looking For 9 View Post
    Bell as usual very well coached. I am not sure what kind of d they played but neither does Cincy coach. Part zone part man to man. It had Cincy settling for threes that were rushed.

    They played man-to-man the entire game. They harassed Cincy and for the most part would not let them get in the lane

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    The Cincy game gives us some early hope for a better season that some of us were grudgingly expecting - i.e. a rebuilding year. Jenkins looks like he could be a key to raising our expectations. I'm not too worried about losing Fredrick. We do have plenty of guards.

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    A very good game for our guys. I was impressed mostly with the defense and the rebounding. It looks as though our fears about this team being undersized were exaggerated. Offensively, was very shaky in the first half, mainly due to our best players pressing a little too hard. Eberhard and Troutman had at least 8 turnovers between them in the half. Second half was much different. I think we have two All-Americans on the team. Eberhard hit some threes and more importantly was willing to shoot them. Despite the first half when he tried to make too refined passes, he showed that the offense will go through him. I wonder how many times we will see an Eberhard pass to a cutting Troutman down the lane? It is a fine sight to see. Cook looked good. Davis was quite tough even after the first half when he really wasn't getting much help on the offensive end. I especially liked Taylor's bucket at the start of the second half. He posted up and put it to the Cincy big man. I wonder if we can get that two or three times a game in the regular season.

    I think Saturday's game will be a little different. IU is good and won't take BU lightly. If we stay within 20 it will be good. I don't expect to see Rusty and Al playing as many minutes as they did against Cincy either. Don't want to wear them out before next weekend's very important games against SVSU and Northwood.

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    One comment by Scotty on the post game show kind of sums up this team. He said Cronin told him after the game that this year's squad is better than last year's, not because of talent but that they are just a better team. Scotty has the kind of players he likes, coachable and willing to learn. Kolo and Derksen are two of the most talented players he has ever had but I think he had to expend too much energy on trying to coach them. That may be a reason Fredrick is not on the team now too. Scotty just might not want to put up with any more "me" attitude when he thinks he has all the rest of the players in the right mindset. I am not saying Fredrick was that kind of kid but I do question why someone would quit before his senior year especially when he was set to contribute quite a bit, even if he wasn't starting.

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    I'm a little baffled by how well they defended and rebounded last night. I think that game went about as well as it could have for BU fans. I'm not sure if one game will show what this whole team is about but my optimism has been restored to an extent. Really impressed with the team and how they played.

    I do think I may have underestimated how much better this team is without Derksen. He is a great player, but the attitude of the team seemed totally different last night than the last few years. Granted, I was not at the game, but it sure looked different without seeing Scotty butting heads with him on the sidelines every time he subbed out. I also think the offense looked totally different. The ball rarely stopped, extra passes were made, and overall it looked like everyone played well together. Derksen was great but seeing the offense end in his hand all of the time was frustrating. I think the Bellarmine offense was never the right fit for him. I do hope the best for him tonight against UofL and the rest of the season. Just glad to see Bellarmine basketball back.
    Overall I am optimistic going forward. Excited to see how they handle IU

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    Being an eternal pessimist, I am irritated with the team for raising my expectations. The rebounding and defense were very good, and frankly, that was what I feared this team most lacked. If we get Weyer back, I do not believe we will have any size issues.

    Al Davis played a nice floor game and I agree with Scotty that the team did not help him much in the first half. I do think it is essential that Al hit an occasional open three pointer, however.

    Agree with Stalker that Troutman and Eberhard pressed too hard with their passing in the first half. Seems like we always see this against D1 teams. Their length just simply does not allow you to make passes that you get away with in practice and D2 games. I like to see guards have some penetration, but they need to learn to keep their dribble and circle out if no pass or shot is available.

    I did not think UC played well. Their shot selection was terrible and they made no real effort to get the ball low with the pass. Cronin will have plenty of ammunition to beat up his guys.

    Best sign of things to come (besides the team defense and rebounding): Eberhard knocking down 3's. The guy looks primed to have a big year. Look for him to have B.H. type numbers. I am predicting the third triple double in Bellarmine history for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EaglesPride View Post
    You have a better shot at beating Cincinnati than KWC does at staying in the game at Louisville. The Cardinals are going to beat KWC by about 50 points. I expect Bellarmine to stay close with Cincinnati, probably a 59-50 score.
    Looks like I was exactly right about the margin of 9 points, almost hit the score. I thought Bellarmine would give them everything they could handle. From what I understand, Cronin tried to get out of Cincinnati after last season and could have gone to UNLV, but things broke down in negotiations with them. Then Cincinnati's president abruptly resigned with the school facing massive budgetary problems. A disenchanted head coach in Division I can not be a good thing for a program, especially one such as Cincinnati. Congratulations to Bellarmine for playing a fine game.

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    A new, quick, student-produced profile of Jenkins:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC6OlWJbP3E

    Looks closely in the opening seconds, and you'll see Kendle out there practicing with the squad.

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    Watching the KWC / UL exhibition game on ESPN3 and seeing that Derksen still shoots virtually every time he touches the ball, plays no defense and does not attack the boards confirms that he would not fit with this year's Bellarmine team. The tallest player on the KWC team he played 12 min and had 1 rebound and 5 pts in first half. All his points are scored on 2 straight possessions where he shot 4 times making 2

    The teamwork, passing, rebounding and defense displayed last night by the BU team stand in stark contrast to the BU team we saw last year. While Derk was not the only issue with last year's team, his style of play is emblematic of the problems last year's team had.

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    Not the best performance by our guys tonight, but there's no shame in losing by 20+ to the 11th-ranked D-I team at their historic place. Don't really keep up with D-I hoops anymore, but I think IU will be really good.

    Could've been a little more interesting, like last year in the second half at Assembly Hall, if some of those open shots (that we normally hit) fell. Have to say the Hoosiers played some tough defense, and that can get in guys' heads and play mental games on the shooters.

    I'm liking Taylor. One positive is that, while we got killed on the boards in the first half, I heard we outrebounded Indiana in the second.

    Will be interesting to see how things go at Louisville on Monday. Will have to be at that one in spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BellarmineGrad View Post
    Not the best performance by our guys tonight, but there's no shame in losing by 20+ to the 11th-ranked D-I team at their historic place. Don't really keep up with D-I hoops anymore, but I think IU will be really good.

    Could've been a little more interesting, like last year in the second half at Assembly Hall, if some of those open shots (that we normally hit) fell. Have to say the Hoosiers played some tough defense, and that can get in guys' heads and play mental games on the shooters.

    I'm liking Taylor. One positive is that, while we got killed on the boards in the first half, I heard we outrebounded Indiana in the second.

    Will be interesting to see how things go at Louisville on Monday. Will have to be at that one in spirit.
    Ok, I have to admit that besides a few minutes on the radio while in the car I did not see or hear much of the game. Do I have to turn in my BU fan decoder ring and cape? I think Moves was going to disclaim me after I said I couldn't go! Going tonight though. I think BU will get hammered tonight. Pitino is likely to unleash the dogs the first 20 minutes before easing slightly for Davenport's sake.

    Saw Weyer and Taylor with the fitness coach at Kroger yesterday. They were in the snack aisle getting a lecture on the proper snacks to get. I trolled around eavesdropping to see if I could get any scoop on Weyer and his foot. Didn't hear anything but he was walking without any issues. I know he was listed in the box score for Saturday so maybe he is pretty much ready. Be interesting to see if he plays more tonight. Btw, do I get my BU Basketball Geek title back for making a celebrity sighting? I am a geek though, more excited about seeing them than I would be about some so-called celebrity who may make millions from singing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnightStalker View Post
    Ok, I have to admit that besides a few minutes on the radio while in the car I did not see or hear much of the game. Do I have to turn in my BU fan decoder ring and cape? I think Moves was going to disclaim me after I said I couldn't go!
    We'll let it slide this time, since you are such a gentleman and a scholar.

    Quote Originally Posted by KnightStalker View Post
    I think BU will get hammered tonight.
    Totally agree. Think it's going to be ugly. Seems to me that, when the Knights play these three big-time D-I exhibitions, there's a close one, a so-so one, and one where BU alas gets pounded. One of these years, I think Bellarmine will knock off U of L, but this ain't it.

    Quote Originally Posted by KnightStalker View Post
    Saw Weyer and Taylor with the fitness coach at Kroger yesterday. They were in the snack aisle getting a lecture on the proper snacks to get. I trolled around eavesdropping to see if I could get any scoop on Weyer and his foot. Didn't hear anything but he was walking without any issues. I know he was listed in the box score for Saturday so maybe he is pretty much ready. Be interesting to see if he plays more tonight. Btw, do I get my BU Basketball Geek title back for making a celebrity sighting? I am a geek though, more excited about seeing them than I would be about some so-called celebrity who may make millions from singing.
    That, sir, is good stuff; I'd be excited too. I know Scotty has talked about how Taylor (and maybe some of the other guys too) are so into it that they send Hartman photos of what they are about to eat. It's worked for Taylor. What's he lost now? Close to thirty pounds?

    Can't wait to see Weyer in action. Hope he's ready to go soon.

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    I'll be at the U of L game tonight. One of my sons got his boss's season ticket seats (pretty good ones!). Not expecting to seriously threat the Cards tonight but I would like to see a good showing. Why in the living bejesus does UK play Asbury? There are plenty of D2/D3/NAIA teams in the state they could play that would present a better scrimmage. I do appreciate the fact that Asbury is getting a pay check for the game...how about Transy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGrad1971 View Post
    I'll be at the U of L game tonight. One of my sons got his boss's season ticket seats (pretty good ones!). Not expecting to seriously threat the Cards tonight but I would like to see a good showing. Why in the living bejesus does UK play Asbury? There are plenty of D2/D3/NAIA teams in the state they could play that would present a better scrimmage. I do appreciate the fact that Asbury is getting a pay check for the game...how about Transy?
    Cool. Have fun. We'll expect a full report. ;)

    I think UK played at least a couple of exhibitions against Transy in the not-too-distant past, but they do seem to play Asbury a lot. I suppose they play Clarion because that is Calipari's alma mater.

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    Totally ugly first half. No one wanted to shoot the ball until eventually Rusty shot (and missed) or they threw away the ball. Looked like deer in the headlights. Second half much much better. But then again when a team is up by over 30 points in the first half there is a tendency to relax a little. George Knott has earned more playing time given his second half performance. Coles didn't look good until the last 8 minutes when he relaxed and started taking some shots which went in. Jenkins looked good 2nd half as did Eberhard and Rusty was much better. Looked to me like Jenkins, Davis, Troutman, Eberhard, Knott was the best combo out there. Although if Coles could shoot like he did the last 5-10 minutes, he deserves to play. U of L only outrebounded the Knights 37-34 but then again, in the first half I don't think U of L missed a shot so there were fewer rebounds for them to chase down. Cards height and length discouraged our guys from slashing to the basket since it was usually blocked in their face. Second half however, then did manage some back door cuts and nifty layups along with some steals and transition baskets. In the end it was respectful - I think they outscored U of L by 11 points the second half. Not bad. Its hard to get that god awful first half out of my mind however. I had seats about 15 rows up from the floor under the basket where Dan Ramser got knocked cold. He was definitely knocked unconscious - I could see him motionless on the floor with his eyes closed for a minute or two. I think he got knocked in the side of the head with an elbow going up to contest a layup. They carried him off on a stretcher. Hope he's ok.

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    I think you are correct about over passing. I never thought there would be such a thing but the passing allowed U of L to settle in and no good shots were to be had. We are all going to go crazy when we see U of L shoot 1 for 20 threes in there first game.

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